That the origin of a lot of these gangs is with refugees from US-backed dirty wars in Central America, who picked up gang culture/adopted it for protection in the US makes the portrayal of many of these gangs as foreign/alien/outsider a lie or a denial. - ThreadSky

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social • 5 days ago

That the origin of a lot of these gangs is with refugees from US-backed dirty wars in Central America, who picked up gang culture/adopted it for protection in the US makes the portrayal of many of these gangs as foreign/alien/outsider a lie or a denial.

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“He said that the inmates would perform forced labor for at least a year, possibly more, and that the “United States will pay a very low fee for them.””

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jensel.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is such a vital point, but our government ( Dems as well as Republicans) has chosen to forget those dirty wars of the late 1970s and 1980s and the repressive aftermath that has shadowed this early century, because it would be inconvenient to have to examine immigration through a larger lens.

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social•5 days ago

That the US is the birthplace of gangs now in other countries as well as a source of weapons for cartels should undo the victim/perpetrator narratives often told about these situations.... MS-13 started in L.A.

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social•5 days ago

The feedback loop--Reagan's anticommunist support of far right dictatorships and civil wars > refugees from those wars > some of those refugees ending up in US gangs . their deportation in the 1990s = export of gang culture....

2005 story on all that:

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social•5 days ago

Coherence is when you see the pattern, and often the pattern spreads across decades, which is why memory is a superpower and amnesia so often leads to incoherence and gullibility.

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3lkjtosnyws2g

gabriel-solis.bsky.social•5 days ago

I mean, it’s *explicitly a slave labor program. No one in either regime is trying to obscure that.

captainiggy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Some people seem to know they shouldn’t be showing their faces.

rebeccasolnit.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/l-toczylowski.bsky.social/post/3lkhpf7hvik2a

mlmlaw.bsky.social•5 days ago

Appalling. If people can be deported because of their tattoos, Pete Hegseth should be next.

julietebo.bsky.social•5 days ago

If we do not stand up for justice, who are we as a country?

elbowlass.bsky.social•5 days ago

The abuse of human rights is horrendous. I hope somehow that the deportees get access to proper justice processes.

golddustpoppy.bsky.social•5 days ago

When do we do a national strike? Now!? We cannot wait.

bergenhbergen.bsky.social•5 days ago

And with that, along with civil war and right wing terror in El Salvador, we got the ball rolling. Hasn’t stopped since.

bergenhbergen.bsky.social•5 days ago

An old story. Reagan turning Honduras into a “whorehouse” as national guard and regular troops cycled through, threatening an invasion of Nicaragua. Remember Ben Linder.

delicious-carbs.bsky.social•5 days ago

Given Trump’s stance on tariffs etc, I don’t think anybody in this administration is too clear on the concept of “reimportation” alas

notjustahiccup.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yes, L.A. is where MS-13 started. Why are you the only person saying so?

quinn.yoyodyne-it.eu•5 days ago

I thought they started in NY, and then moved into LA later, but this is old knowledge in my head and I can't remember where I got it from. (Also it's not really that germane which end they started on... they were in both spots quickly 😬)

waltcu.bsky.social•5 days ago

book to read is, Everyone Who is Gone is Here, by Jonathan Blitzer. Astoundingly, in 2020 the Trump regime deported individuals back to Central America who were infected with COVID-19 — people the regime knew were already infected! After its spread there, the US was dubbed, “Wuhan of the Americas.”

silencedogood1776.bsky.social•4 days ago

When are we going to come out and call these what they are? THESE ARE CONCENTRATION CAMPS. There is no "detain them and send them to their home country." This is kidnapping people and sending them to a prison compound, far away from any intervention. Ask someone who's Jewish what happens next 😡

lisabiggs.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is slavery & torture

kathleen-tierney.bsky.social•5 days ago

"Alleged" is key here. So many "allegations" floating around now it's difficult to keep track. I'll "allege" most of these folks have nothing to do with gangs.

mountainman14.bsky.social•5 days ago

We ceased being a nation of laws the day he took office.

swelleganza.bsky.social•5 days ago

Thank you. And also, how many of these abducted could be verified as linked to any of these so-called gangs?

11tulips.bsky.social•5 days ago

Always: The US in the position of punishing others for unfortunate situations of our own making.

grumpyoldscientist.bsky.social•5 days ago

Ah yes, how soon we forget in the US.

catznjam.bsky.social•5 days ago

They won't identify them? Why not? Let's see all these bad hombres, post it online and brag about it - you know you would if you could, you'd be holding pressers and displaying them like a proud papa - I know that judge ain't gonna let that slide.

clanghoff.bsky.social•5 days ago

Let's make sure to disappear that info from high school curricula otherwise kids will not grow up to be patriots.

albamachado.bsky.social•5 days ago

Gosh they got to labor camps quickly

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