If you are making a kinky RPG, do you make the kinks a win condition? Or a losing condition? Kinky status effects are meant to be a punishment, but players pursue them as a reward. Why incentivize failure? If you make them a reward, then you break the fantasy of kinky consequences for failure. - ThreadSky

shinesprkluxray.bsky.social • 19 days ago

If you are making a kinky RPG, do you make the kinks a win condition? Or a losing condition?

Kinky status effects are meant to be a punishment, but players pursue them as a reward. Why incentivize failure?

If you make them a reward, then you break the fantasy of kinky consequences for failure.

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godot9.bsky.social•19 days ago

I've seen both versions. I think the "losing condition" is set up because the assumption is that the players will lose more often before finally winning (in video games) or that it is easy for players to lose on purpose "once" to see the animation.

godot9.bsky.social•19 days ago

Two, if you think about it, incel/single programmers. Most video games are designed for the male gaze.

shinesprkluxray.bsky.social•19 days ago

Welcome to Shrödinger’s Kink, a game design hellscape

grimoirem.bsky.social•19 days ago

Perspective shift is key to making it work I think. Best demonstrated by evolving status descriptions.

littlepodie.bsky.social•18 days ago

The answer is yes.

scenefour.bsky.social•19 days ago

I highly recommend reading Under Hollow Hills for the answer to this question! “Success” generally gives the player the power to choose from a list of options which set the tone for someone else’s response. Basically, the player gets to say a question/statement the other character has to respond to

scenefour.bsky.social•19 days ago

This preserves consent, as neither character is forced to do anything, and a character who “wins” can ask things like “if I gave myself to you, you would…” other recs to check out: Sapphicworld, Praise the Hawkmoth King

b-padded.bsky.social•19 days ago

This is something ive thought about for a while and the only answer i can come up with is if your charcter is always the hypotetical dom and if they win, then the oponent undergoes whatever the sub would undergo, so you still get somebody in bith roles and a reward for winning

b-padded.bsky.social•19 days ago

But that reappy only works in like a pve situation or pvp but not like an exploration game or something like that, for thoose kinda games it truly is hard to figure out

scalesshine.bsky.social•19 days ago

A way I've generally thought about it is the "better" endings for kinky-losses happen later on. Early on it's kind of a low effort "This happens, you deal with perma boner now", and later on gets the more in depth descriptions etc.
This incentivizes going as far as possible through the game-

scalesshine.bsky.social•19 days ago

Because the end post game superboss has the best scene of the game :U

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