The editor has been digging herself into a deeper and deeper racist hole so I'm gonna name and shame: this is Graveside Press + she's now trying to claim that Indigenous beliefs are... Folklore instead of mythology, I think? This is all happening on Threads. TW for anti-Indigenous racism like WHOA - ThreadSky

fiversdream.bsky.social • 1 day ago

The editor has been digging herself into a deeper and deeper racist hole so I'm gonna name and shame: this is Graveside Press + she's now trying to claim that Indigenous beliefs are... Folklore instead of mythology, I think? This is all happening on Threads.

TW for anti-Indigenous racism like WHOA

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fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

If Graveside Press is hiring you for SR work - look, if you need your bag, get your bag, but I don't think there's any saving this when the editor thinks Indigenous beliefs are Less Religious and Important than "real" Mythology. And mea culpa, maybe I shouldn't have used the word folklore, but she's

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

-also wrong about literally everything she's saying *and* I didn't think she'd be pulling out out of date anthropology of fairy tales to justify "I really want to accept racist cryptid stories". But I probably should have expected it tbh.

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

I can't imagine trying to assert, with my whole chest, that Indigenous religions don't have creation stories.

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

Drawing a hard line between folklore and mythology and religion, btw, isn't just "blurry"; it's impossible. And inherently racist. What gets called which is determined by class, race, social standing, prestige, language... There's a reason Chinese beliefs are often called "superstitions" even though

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

-they're really quite serious. Same with Romani culture. I'm not shocked that a white "anthropologist" thinks there's more to these differentiations, but the racialization involved is key to understanding *why* they're talked about differently.

Fairy tales, for example, are Christian folklore.

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

They're just from low-prestige, oral tradition areas that fused older pagan beliefs with Christianity. There's no reason not to call them mythology - the difference between them and the Aeneid is really just a matter of scale.

opreroma.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hello, I am a Roma Teacher, one of the important thing about Roma culture.

It been to cartoonified and incorrectly portrayed, that it is more of a shocking, to see a correct portrayal.

lexiconmood.bsky.social•1 day ago

I feel like saying this instantly disqualifies anything you say about mythology, folklore, or tbh any storytelling at all. Like????????

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

TRULY
Like I know I should have paused and gone and gotten the specific nation(s) that use this story (I couldn't remember OTL and i didn't want to lose the post while fact-checking) but then with something THAT FLAGRANT i'm like. okay you are on /baby-level/ misinformation

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

update: added it to the thread but it's specifically Algonquian folklore! so it's like 20 different groups which is why my memory was being evil to me afjdskl

lexiconmood.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yeah, I feel you. I didn’t get specific for the same reason and am not confident my recollection is correct. And also I think while people get egregious with this particular figure, the idea applies broadly to indigenous stories and entities.

winter-shaw-writes.bsky.social•1 day ago

I tried to explain this to my wife and here's what I came up with. Did I get it right? Did I miss anything? Tagging @ckohwrites.bsky.social to follow replies in case I got it wrong. (Also, thank you for posting stuff like this, it's freaking important.)

baroquespiral.bsky.social•1 day ago

lol so much of Greek mythology shouldn't count as mythology by this metric. they didn't even have the same stories from city to city necessarily.

fiversdream.bsky.social•1 day ago

Exactly!!! Its such a weird, bad metric and doesn't even justify her position - although she seems to think it does??

thene.bsky.social•1 day ago

👀 like...context, please; it was illegal for indigenous people in the US to practice their religion until 1978. That is why their sacred stories are still rarely referred to as "religious" and their gods are often referred to as "spirits" or "folklore"!

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