alisonkirkland.bsky.social
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To quote the lyrics of the song “Here’s to Tom Paine”:
“See the pigeons bless his statue
Crown of stone brings no respect
King with neither grace nor reason
Heart of stone deserves neglect.”
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“Emissary”, “Progress”, “Duet”, “In the Hands of the Prophets” - these are strong to really great episodes. There are other decent and fun epsisodes, like “Captive Pursuit” and “The Vortex”. There are indeed a few downright vapid silly episodes, like “The Passenger” that give s1 a bad rep.
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Fans of the “Uncanny” podcast will know the story of Ciaran O’Keefe (resident sceptic) outing Derek Acorah as a fake.
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My dad got dermatitis from old documents in the British Museum once.
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Odo’s almost paradoxical - a guy who wants things and people under control, with a vulnerable nonconforming outsider struggling to get out. I guess all of us who identify with him are trouble by the first part of that while totally identifying with the second.
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Among his other achievements, he was a legend in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine for an unforgettable guest appearance as Aamin Marritza in the first-season episode “Duet”, the first really great episode of that series.
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You can see some of his stuff at the museum in Whitstable, UK.
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In Whitby museum?
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There’s a song called “Over the Lancashire Hills” by the folk singer Stuart Marson about her. Used to be sung by Simon Nicol of Fairport Convention.
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www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...
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Is the episode “Dramatis Personae?”
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“13 uses the sonic to superheat the bag of marshmallows she and Yaz were going to toast later, flings it behind her …..”
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Is this from a comic? I’d love to read it.
(Always thought “13th Doctor vs. Helen A.” would be interesting too.)
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When has there ever been a sci fi writer dumb enough to have artificial intelligences lie as a matter of course?
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Every fictional robot ever said “I am programmed not to lie” and we always nodded and thought “that makes sense, you’d have to be crazy to allow a robot to lie.” Then the “AI” we create does nothing but lie.
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One is a slippery predator, the other is a shark.
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I kind of liked it. I’m not sure it was all that supportive of established religion - I thought it was more of a transcendental hippie thing.
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There is also a “paradoxical frog” (big tadpole, turns into a small frog.)
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My very first DS9 memory is Odo and Primmin in “Move Along Home”. Unfortunately that scene makes Primmin out to be a right twit (apparently because it was originally going to be O’Brien in that scene - O’Brien refusing to play detective would make a bit more sense.)
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makes a sort of sense that it wouldn’t be all resolved by one moment of understanding (“it’s not linear”) and Odo’s willingness to tolerate Mora was less when he felt he had to protect a young changeling from him.
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In the actual show, that would get you either a sonic blast calculated to drive out implanted memories, or a holographic opponent for a Jem’Hadar.
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Arguably that’s what happens in the episode “Chimera”.
(“His Way” feels a bit like they’re cosplaying a different culture and era to get away from the things that stop them getting together in real life.)
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There must have been a “screwball comedy”-flavoured anomaly passing through the station that week.
Got to like the way the Promenade crowd are surprised but seem to approve.
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I think somebody recommended going round art galleries in that state.
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In these times, perhaps there should be a drama featuring a detective who wants therapy but is on a very long waiting list?
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(an alternate timeline version of him pulled the trigger on this one, he’s says he doesn’t t know whether or not he would have done the same.)
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Actually looks good to me, assuming you’re going for cartoon style. Definitely puts his expression across in an appropriately funny way.
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Other changelings are available …. and more malevolent than him.
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Auberjonois was trying to look like a picture he’d seen of a defeated samurai in the rain. Maybe those bands are big into vintage Japanese art?
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I’ll never understand why “Move Along Home” is remembered as the silliest episode of the first season when “If Wishes Were Horses” is right there.
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I’d like to believe the baby was conscious for that last flight. I’d like to believe that after Odo joined the Link the baby changeling was able to emerge again, having been kept safe by him, and they resumed their parent-child relationship.
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Definitely meant to be ambiguous. Not the only time he let someone go rather than have them face a punishment that might be unjust, though.
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This plotline could have looked very dark and disturbing indeed if he’d let Croden get executed because Croden was right, he didn’t want to be alone and he wanted the little girl for company.
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I’ve been wondering that - maybe they meant “your level of talent intimidates me” or something. (It is a profession where “break a leg” means “good luck” after all.)
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Definitely got something of her.
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The late great Peter David wrote a bit in the first DS9 novel about how Odo feels he can’t leave the station until Quark died of old age, and even then some other rulebreaker is bound to come along ….
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When we encounter Section 31 in DS9, they’ve already done horrible things to characters we love. This very effectively takes the “coolness” potential out of them.
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They wanted to have him entering the Defiant while it was deep submerged underwater in “Starship Down”, but all the plans got changed.
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he’s “out of sight”?
(my dad’s boss at a local council was said to have the “Lord Lucan Award” for rarely showing up at the office.)
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Anyone else remember the Starship Dispensable from “Space Vets”.
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Ye olde USS Cerritos.
(Was “Geoffrey Chaucer Hath a Blog” also by you?)
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True. (I’ve never forgotten the graffiti I saw once in a German public loo that read “Like Adolf Hitler I am sitting here with the brown masses beneath me.”)
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Apparently, yes it is a continuation of a 1970s series.
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“The Left Hand of Darkness” by Ursula Le Guin. “No man considers himself a traitor ….”
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Puck, Ariel ….
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Weren’t they recently involved in a coup on the Klingon homeworld? (TNG episode.) I assumed they were wanted under Klingon law, much as I may not like the capital punishment aspect. They brought an explosive device onboard the station.
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Data gets more interesting when you think of him as having feelings but not knowing how they fit in, being afraid to recognise them as feelings because they’re not in sync with the world around him. Then he becomes the link in the chain: Spock, Data, Odo.
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Odo is a great character among many great characters. Data stands out incredibly, especially being the one interesting thing in some terrible early TOS scripts. Odo’s more relatable to me, but that’s because I’m not as innocent or nice as Data, sadly.
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Our culture was so obsessed by this stuff, and it was zero use in terms of warning us or making us learn - we still let what’s happening happen.
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He suggested locking Lursa and B’etor up and having the Klingons come get them, perhaps that’s what you meant. Meaning hand them over to the Klingon justice system, who I suppose might quite likely execute them. (Sisko said no, he didn’t push it.)