anonopundit.bsky.social
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He’s right about New York though. New York unions are a special case and they’ve done a lot of damage to the city over the past 40 years. We can support organized labor but we don’t have to be knee jerk yes men in response to things that have made life worse for New Yorkers
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Amazon fire 8, and sideload the play store it isn’t difficult
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I don’t think they’re actually fighting
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Let’s see how long it takes before this gets someone angry on the hook
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Bin Laden was an idiot conspiracy theorist like most terrorists are, and you shouldn’t treat his critiques seriously. He’s like Dylann Roof who shot up a church because he was mad about Trayvon martin being sanctified. They’re not rational people they take small things and fixate
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It’s fucking stupid to call 9/11 the result of American foreign policy because we were pretty cool with the Muslim world before it happened outside of Iran, and Iran and bin Laden didn’t get along. We backed Pakistan, non-atheist North Yemen, and Sunnis across the region.
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Yes, questions of scale. Until the GWOT we weren’t that involved. Desert storm was a one time thing and we dipped, us being entrenched in the Middle East is the direct result of bin Laden. You can read history on Al Qaeda it’s well documented that personal weird grievances drove it at first
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We played both sides of the war, we didn’t have a favored party really though we did find saddam some public praise. We should’ve stayed out that’s clear
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That’s Indonesia, and he didn’t have much of a problem with it because our allies were religious conservatives. And yes it was awful
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It makes sense, the Soviet Union borders MENA and Central Asia, but we weren’t players there like we were in say Brazil. We did the coup in the 50’s in Iran and like I said mostly just moved weapons. The USSR had a full puppet state in South Yemen.
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Because I’m very well acquainted with our policy in the Middle East and was hands off compared to the rest of the world. The Soviet Union was directly involved in a way we never were. We didn’t reinvade Iran after they toppled the shah the way they did Afghanistan.
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I’d be very surprised if we supported India against kashmir but I’d have to check again, we supported Pakistan in every conflict against India from Nixon-Trump 1
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Like why he attacks us and not Russia is incredibly bizarre and personal, Russia supported wars against Muslims in Bosnia and Chechnya before 9/11. We invaded Iraq to protect a Wahhabi ally
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I mean the reality is really complicated and weird. A guy who had no problems working along side us in Afghanistan turned and decided we were his real enemy when he wasn’t appointed the hero he thought he would be. It’s a weird complex story that isn’t driven by what you would expect
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Great man theory matters when one man makes a decision, historians don’t actually split between great man or trends theory anymore because that kind of dogmatism leads you to ignore critical factors. People use power sometimes, he had an initial continent of like 100 people it didn’t take much
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Most of the hijacker’s were those who came to bin Laden to participate in other conflicts like the Afghan/northern alliance war, or the war in Bosnia.
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The twin towers bombing was in February ‘93.
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He was perfectly fine with American involvement when it suited him, he had no problems with Americans until the first gulf war and he never said he was actually mad about Saddam, he himself offered to fight him.
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Maybe she also shouldn’t say the US kind of deserved 9/11 and then pretended she hadn’t actually said that because she used the flimsiest wording possible.
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And the twin towers
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By the time Somalia happened he had already bombed multiple US Embassies
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WW2 parties aren’t a thing, Pearl Harbor parties are not a thing, I guess we do Memorial Day but that’s more because it’s a day off in good weather
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If you show up to a party dressed as German soldiers and American soldiers you’re gonna be treated fucking weird, as should Taylor for 9/11 parties. That’s the point that’s why it’s insane what she said because it ignores the human side of it.
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Why did Osama Bin Laden declare war on America. Answer the question
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this is the problem, everything is treated in these blanket terms and you completely miss the reality of the situations because you apply a framework from somewhere else.
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Outside of the coup in Iran the US didn’t kill leftist organizers in the Middle East, Osama bin Laden did in Yemen though. People say this repeatedly but that’s South America, we didn’t have that policy in the Middle East
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did osama bin Laden do 9/11 because he was mad about Iran contra? You’re still not getting to the fucking point Jesus Christ it’s like arguing with a brick wall
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I’m not being obtuse I’m showing that kind of framing is stupid especially when it’s used in a defense of the terrorist act. You can’t talk about 9/11 without talking about the actual human consequences of it. It’s not a tv show it’s a thing that happened and killed 3,000 people
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then what did I miss? Everyone knows the CIA was bad, it’s not like there are books called “hurrah but the agency” that give you a happy picture about the CIA. Like seriously idk if a positive history of the CIA even exists in wide circulation
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Yes, I know they are I was demonstrating how stupid the “US the institution not US the people framing is” it takes people out of the equation. I’m not denying what Israel is doing at all you’re misunderstanding the point
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My response was not a denial of what’s happening in Gaza it was a demonstration about how that kind of language is dehumanizing and cruel, and makes the reality of death less present. I know Israel is bombing children
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What we did in the Middle East can be bad, and it can also be not the reason for 9/11 because the guy who did that was famously a fucking nut job. You process your thoughts about the world like toddlers.
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Jesus Christ, we know who did 9/11 and he wasn’t a rebel against neocolonialism. He was a Saudi Nepo baby who turned against America because Saudi Arabia didn’t make him the king he thought he deserved to be when he returned from Afghanistan.
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Israel is just bombing the Hamas government not the people of Gaza. It’s stupid fucking framing, you shouldn’t take people out of situations where they’re being murdered
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“the first gulf war”
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I’ve read the books I know what we were doing it isn’t comparable to our involvement in Africa or South America. We generally just sold weapons in the region after the Shah fell, including through Iran contra. The Soviet Union was propping up puppet states
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You should try reading a book that doesn’t also tell you what to think, it might grow your brain a little
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Oh boy, the podcast guy. I’m good.
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The United States could’ve stayed out of Lebanon, not supported Israel, not given weapons to either party in Iran-Iraq, or not supported the Shah and 9/11 still would’ve happened because those are not the real things that made Bin Laden a terrorist.
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You children have turned him into some weird pseudo-lefty when he was a conservative weirdo who didn’t give a shit about any of the things you care about
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The US funding the Mujahadeen isn’t like a secret, he was completely ok with America in the 80’s. Then because he’s a fucking but case he got mad that the Saudis wouldn’t let him fight chemical warfare “with faith” and turned into a terrorist. He wasn’t radicalized by colonialism
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Why do you think he went from fighting next to the CIA to bombing America?
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We also weren’t that fucking involved in the Middle East before 9/11, we did the first gulf war and dipped. The Soviet Union was way more involved in the region for the entirety of the Cold War. I would be surprised if you ever even knew there was a South Yemen
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oh no! Multiple historians! Have you actually read any of them? It was done by a specific person, you can literally read what he fucking said. He said it was for an extremely dumb reason, that’s also a fact documented by historians.
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“America the institution not America the people”
This is the dumbest excuse for terrorism I think I’ve heard in a long time.
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You have no idea what actually happened. Osama Bin Laden declared war on America because the Saudis decided to let Americans station in the country (not in Mecca or Medina) instead of hiring him to fight the Iraqis “with faith.” It’s not like he did it because of the coup in Iran
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You’re welcome to read her actual tweets and see if I’m overstating it
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I mean on the other site she’s right now talking about how America kind of deserved 9/11 and that her friends throw 9/11 themed parties, so a little out there right now.
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yeah everyone should be vaccinated for it, but as of now the mortality is effectively the same as the flu+pneumonia.