kat.lol
@dixie3flatline from twitter
head of dev advocacy @ minimus.io
kubernetes release team subproject lead, sig docs tech lead, uwubernetes, edinburgh via memphis
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S is for Trogdor.
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s is for cool
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S is for cool
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For you? Any time
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Obviously this is great news for us, but will there be similar results for smaller OSS and otherwise non-profit communities who don't have the enormous leverage the CNCF has?
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YOOOOOO LIT
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Sure! DM me, we'll set something up.
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Happy to!
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Sure do! Sent you a DM
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Sure!
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lmao even the smart kids are dumbasses sometimes
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genuinely
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it's ok man, i was on the knowledge bowl team
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what if I suspect it's a decent grift
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Nah cringe has different vibes as an insult imo. Being a poser is like being both cringe AND fake
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It's okay, you're a theater kid
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Yeah I'm down
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An accusation of being a poser, from a cool enough person, could absolutely wreck your reputation. Especially in alt scenes. This was a truly devastating insult
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honestly so valid lol I had one once and it pretty rapidly devolved into just me and two friends talking shit for an hour
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A british person called me a turnip once. Absolutely floored me
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Kubernetes! Container security! Open source community management! Shooting the shit in general!
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hell yeah LFG
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So is Swift. I think a ton of non-profit workspaces are
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I see where you're coming from, but considering the state of everyone's governments right now, I'd prefer open source not be directly beholden to one of them more than we already are.
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Ideally Salesforce gets over whatever is wrong with them and offers us a solution. Failing that, I think Discord and a 99 year contract locking us into whatever their enterprise tier is as an OSS donation is our least bad option.
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Plus there's the increased work required for effective automation, all of the integrations we rely on, moderation hurdles, etc etc.
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It's deeply unfriendly to new users. It has awful cross-platform support. It nearly guarantees you end up with a stagnant pool of contributors who all think the same way (and are mostly 35+) because the entry barrier is so high. I have fond memories of it too but it's just bad for community growth.
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I will argue against IRC until I am no longer physically able to speak or type.
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For a community with 200k members and 10s of thousands of posts a month? Yeah something like that
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I guess if someone wants to throw us several million dollars indefinitely, sure
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I can't give you an exact number, but what I have heard is catastrophically expensive.
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Absolutely not lol
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Self-hosted services are likely not an option for us. We don't really have the maintainer resources for something like that.
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Discord does allow account switching rather than just server profiles now:
support.discord.com/hc/en-us/art...
(I will be using this, because yeah, my work colleagues don't need to know what my other servers are like)
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Ah okay. Discord doesn't exactly allow it either, though -- you can stop someone from DMing or tagging you, but they can still interact with you in channels.
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Well, you can't really block people in Slack either.
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The most likely option right now is Discord. Other options have limitations incompatible with our community, so far. The blog I linked includes a link to an FAQ and a community discussion thread.
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Matrix is not being considered due to its inability to support a community of our size at its current level of development. We also simply do not have the maintainer resources to self-host something.
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It was the best choice at the time, IMO. IRC would definitely have slowed down growth, and I'd argue aggressively against switching to it today because of the poor user experience for people who haven't been using it for years and the lack of solid cross-platform apps. Wildly unfriendly for newbies.
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Additional note: this is not exclusive to Kubernetes. The CNCF Slack workspace is affected as well.