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Studying the cell nucleus in search of inspiration for future DNA computers. Systems Biology professor at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology, post opinions mine alone. hilbertlab.org
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We’ll advertise (hopefully soon) a quite explorative postdoc position. Might be outside your area, but you can keep an eye out :-) Good luck 🍀 🤞
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Does German-speaking Germany also hold relevance?
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The DNA strands A and B were prepared in the same reaction, they are initially mixed. It is only upon addition of the two selectively associating and mutually repelling liquids A and B that they sort apart. Sorry for channel crosstalk from liquid B to A (blue to magenta), sorry. Working on it :-)
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It is still not entirely safe to say the F word in public ;-)
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Broke the thread again 🤦‍♂️ bsky.app/profile/lenn...
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OK, gotta stop for today, it’s bed time. Let’s see when Incan come back to this great review paper 😃
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I might have to go back to thus classic. I missed the variability in Pol II-Mediator overlap!
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I am dying, our weird-a## zebrafish “let’s call Pol II clusters pastry items based on shape”-paper is cited in the same section as Eskiw et al. That paper to me is such a huge part of where our field originated, and it’s such a good paper! ☺️ I should read Castells-Garcia, not sure how I missed that
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Wasn’t there also actin? I worked on myosin-actin during my PhD, so I found this soooo confusing 😅
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Right. It’s kind of an obvious regulatory solution. No qualms with it. But why do some people come and ask “oh, but what about regulatory specificity, huh? HUH???” Like it’s some hyper-intellectual gotcha, while the answer is, sorry, obvious :-/ (I’m intentionally trying to add some drama.)
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I wasn’t aware of this. How cool! However, Ser5P and also generic Pol II clusters of this size (few complexes, count of tens or less) are likely short-lived, so the travel time to such a cluster might not be so functionally relevant?!
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I wasn’t aware of this. How cool! However, Ser5P and also generic Pol II clusters of this size (few complexes, count of tens or less) are likely short-lived, so the travel time to such a cluster might not be so functionally relevant?!
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Box 1 is great, especially helpful to give these mini summaries separately from text for newcomers. Box 2 is well done, fully correct. But I’ll skip it because it channels the year long, embarrassing, traumatizing discussions “is it really really phase separation, or does it only look like LLPS?” 😵‍💫
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I’d say that distinction hits the nail on the head. Thanks for that much-needed simplicity!
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So, what’s the difference between a transcription factory and a transcriptional condensate? If you’re only *transcriptional*, apparently, you lack a permanently associated gene? ;-)
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Interesting. All regulatory elements are depicted *on the surface* of the factory. It fits our data, existing published record, and also the 1990s papers. Only problem: I didn’t get it for about two years, and-wasted two years of our lab chasing placement of genes *inside* factories. Oh well… 🤦‍♂️
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💗 Biologists who consider different views and terminology are valid? I thought spitting venom and trash-talking our colleagues online was the only acceptable way to settle this stuff?!?
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Sorry broke the thread… bsky.app/profile/lenn...
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Very much agree. A picture where the factory is “liquid” can explain local concentration with a lack of consistent extractability. A new concept was needed to reconcile factories with dynamic structure, and intracellular liquid condensates offer that combination.
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These were the real OG studies. If you take the time to understand the techniques, pictures, and 40-years dated language: they already contain almost everything. Only our light microscopes and molecular techniques improved. But I thought criticism was non-extractability of factories 🧐
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“we contrast historical work on transcription factories with recent findings on transcriptional condensates to better understand the architecture and functional relevance of transcription compartments.” So reassuring. I wrote similar stuff, but was never 100% sure of “factories->condensates”. Phew!
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Excellent! This makes complete sense, once you put these different elements together, this outcome is only logical. Thanks for pointing to the Ext Data Fig 4, I did not go into the SI on first reading.
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Did you make this sketch now? It's great, I would very much agree with this scenario and explanation overall! For anyone not convinced yet, the might HP1-BRD4 construct might, indeed, be the best evidence to argue your point. In the case of heterochromatin, is bulk chromatin also excluded?
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Only checked out the figures thus far, but already a looks great!
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I hope (and believe) there’s plenty left to discover and understand, still have quite a few years to fill till retirement 😅
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Already looking forward to reading with more time, just skimmed the figures for now. Not sure who else would be more well-positioned to debate this topic: you know the old factory as well as the new condensates community very well.
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*comes, probably thinking of ice cream too much 🍦
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Yeah that’s not meta stable. Meta stable cones, for me, cones from dynamical systems theory, and means: it’s a fixed point, probably even a stable one, but with a small basin of attraction, and there’s another stable fixed point with much larger basin of attraction. (And maybe energetically lower.)
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Equilibrium, at the microscopic scale, is a statistical property. A distribution into different states. In my understanding, at least. So, speaking of one structure as *the* equilibrium structure is maybe why it is hard to answer that question?
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I have seen what you’re capable of :-p
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How can I motivate you to keep posting?
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Fantastic manuscript, had to read through it immediately!
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Is the lower / higher chromatin density after phase separation for euchromatin / heterochromatin also explicable by sparser / denser placement of the affinity polymer blocks in the respective regions? Maybe the attached sketch can explain what I mean :-)
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What is the reason for the non-wetting condensate size increase in absence of wetting condensates? Is it that specifically small wetting condensates stiffen the chromatin meshwork, thus exerting a stronger mechanical frustration of the non-wetting condensate formation?
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Thank you so much for preprinting! This is a real Brangwynne lab work, theory & experiment & clear logic. It can be used practically directly as teaching material for an advanced phase sep class (as I do). I'll post with some questions...
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Also need to appreciate the nod to chromatin-associated condensates as a mechanism with an ability for exceptionally rapid chromatin reorganization and, potentially, transcription control.
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The phase diagram is great. We can see how condensate liquid material and chromatin strands interact in a variety of nevertheless systematic outcomes.
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Amazing photographs, one can see the excitement on everyone's faces ❤️
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