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I understand the post wasn’t for me, but my point is that you’re not going to bring him over to our side by insulting him. I find that when I try to approach these interactions with a slightly different tone I become a LOT more convincing — and I have receipts. Just some friendly leftist advice.
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To truly make political change, we need to dissolve the walls separating the Right and the Left. Stop insulting people. Stop attacking people. Ad hominem gets you nowhere. It only isolates the people you should be trying to persuade. Productive discussions are far better than shouting matches.
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I find the fact that people use the examples such as Mohammad Kurrar to say this a bit deceptive. I hate that man with every bone in my body, and any length of sentence is too short for him. But to say this is more than even 0.001% men would be absurd.
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I’ll go down fighting, at least. 😊😂
It’s a shame, but I doubt it will be a permanent shift. Historically politics tends to lean left over time.
I just hope that what I’m saying can help bridge the gaps between me and the opposition — because the left and the right really aren’t too different.
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For a lot of people is not a “fear”, I find, but a desire to truly integrate who they are on the outside with who they are on the inside. I personally wouldn’t like going into the women’s room for the same reason a tm wouldn’t — it doesn’t feel right. It’s weird you out as well, I’m sure.
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Why? Right now in the present day I’d say it’s hard to argue that women are more oppressed than trans folk. And just as a note, I’m fairly sure people made similar arguments back in the day in support of segregation in bathrooms.
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I think we’re closer to agreeing on this than you may think.
We both belief in respect, and we both believe that people reserve the right to free speech. I don’t want to police pronoun usage, I just want to advocate for a more empathetic use of pronouns to avoid conflict and harm where possible.
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—> think that this facet of the issue is blown wayyyyy out of proportion. It’s a micro-facet of the bigger issue intentionally designed to aggravate and give the opposition the arms to fire back against any reasonable argument with allegations of “misogyny”. (2/2)
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This argument is a classic, but full of holes as I see it. There are plenty of instances of unigender toilets and co. that don’t face any real problems. And, realistically, in a crowded space like a restroom for TW it’d be very difficult for any harm to be caused without others noticing. I (1/2)
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I, personally, don’t really want to force anyone to do or say anything. I don’t think much beyond the correct pronouns are necessary for most. I won’t assume you’re explicitly “anti-pronoun” or whatever, but if you are, I just view it as basic human decency. It’s not really that hard, in my opinion.
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So what’s your solution?
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Also I think you might misunderstand. Not all trans or gender non-conforming folk are examples of the “attention seeker” stereotype you’re alluding to. Limiting care or recognition to the non-“narcissistic” bunch because of the attitude of the former is, in my view, a bit off.
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May I ask what your opinions are on the subject, then? What are your stances on, say, recognising trans women as women? Self-ID?
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Not asking you to admire them, I’m just asking you to culture some empathy for their problems — even if it seems completely alien and weak to you.
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Because your problems and their problems are most likely incredibly different. To use a healthcare analogy again, you wouldn’t campaign to shut down Alzheimer’s research just because they are reliant on carers.
On the point of grooming gangs — I completely agree. Grooming gangs are utterly horrid.
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I completely agree with what you are saying (see my responses to his post), but just in general I don’t think toxic language is going to help persuade him. It only alienates people from a belief system to be insulted online. For the sake of actually attempting to change a mind — let’s keep it civil.
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—> those are the reason people like me are spreading our rhetoric. It’s for the people that truly suffer because of it. You wouldn’t cut funding to, say, a free health care service just because some kids that use the services are faking sick to get off school. (2/2)
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You’d be surprised at how few and far between those types of people are. Sure, they exist, and I’m not saying they are to be “exalted from us mere mortals” or anything. But the majority of people with gender dysphoria DO suffer. Don’t let media and SM sensationalism sway you into believing (1/?)
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The alleviation of suffering where possible should be in any reasonable, empathetic person’s interests. Sure, people have problems and that’s a part of life, but nobody in their right mind is going about campaigning to ban therapy.
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I don’t doubt you have some decent points to make about transgenderism, whether I agree with them or not. But insults won’t get us anywhere. Unless you want to admit you don’t actually want to address the issue, then man up a bit, how about that?
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Again, insulting a child over the internet.
Stop getting so pressed man. I recommend some fresh air, clears the mind. Maybe then we can engage in a somewhat educated discussion.
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The fact your only comeback is that I’m a child is dreadfully ironic. It doesn’t debunk my argument, it just makes you out to be someone unable to handle a child’s rhetoric.
Also if you want to take that route, I don’t think insulting children over the internet is a good look.
Reevaluate yourself.
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That would be a stunning wisecrack if people actually believed that
Maybe if you stopped self-isolating in extremist bubbles and went outside you’d see the truth of what people believe, not what sensationalist media or SM algorithms make you think.
Escape the loop.
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I’ve been really goddamn lucky this year! #BookSky