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Black Metal. History (teacher). Fantasy. Nature.
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Excited for Lies Weeping 📚
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Yeah this one sucks :/
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I'd definitely agree. There is also the fact that people have had way more time to sift through, discuss, and recommend music from decades ago whereas who knows how many of the hundreds/thousands of releases so far are good or not.
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My highschool gfs favorite band. Maybe the only thing about her that aged well.
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I'd argue that inaccessibility means that hundreds of artists you enjoy wouldn't exist how they are (if at all) and many of the people (perhaps yourself) might have never gotten into metal. A flood is better than a trickle. You can filter recs thru labels/communities geared towards your tastes.
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To be clear shit drums are still gonna be a few hundred, but these days you can pick up a cheap MIDI keyboard, get all the software for free, and learn basic music theory and make some shitty stuff before ever committing to expensive instruments.
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I think you would change your mind about it being a good thing if you had to drop $10-20 for an album you had no idea was good or not to try out bands when getting into metal. Or needed $500 for shit drums. Broke ass 15 yo me would have lost his mind with how spoiled the net has made us with music.
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State of metal these days? If anything we are in a golden era of metal with how accessible it is to both be a listener and creator of metal compared to 10-20+ years ago. Everything you've said are more personal issues you have rather than issues that objectively hurt the genre.
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I'm not sure why that would bother. I would be excited that someone has any interest in metal at all--even at a surface level. It would be a much more interesting convo than someone that just likes pop or something. I could even end up giving them recs to push them further down the rabbit hole.
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Meanwhile the evidence FOR popular "metal/metal-adjacent" bands is so undeniable. Most metaheads can site a gatekept popular band that were an integral gateway to their metal journey. And many great metal musicians site these same bands as core influences/inspirations.
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This topic (and the overarching topic of elitism/gatekeeping) always bait me in. I just do not see the point and am confused why so many people spend so much time/energy on it. I would love to see a logical argument for gatekeeping that doesn't just end up boiling down to a cosplay for insecurities.
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Did your ears pop or come into focus?
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Drumming that enhances and adds to a song. Not just trying to play fast or fall back on all the typical over used beats. Great cymbal work. Black metal has some of the best drummers.
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One of the best DSBM albums ever. Super sad and cold and atmospheric stuff. Powerful guitarwork and tortured vocals and perfect use of synths. Hits in a way no other black metal can
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The proliferation of outrage is such a big reason our country is shit too. People should stop trusting themselves so much with things they "hate" and focus on promoting (positive) things they like instead.
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It works in a grimdark way like Warhammer 40k. Just guns are whatever, but if you make it obviously GRIM, then we are cookin.
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It got a lot of shit, but I kinda enjoyed that Kerry King album cause it was basically Slayer with a better vocalist.
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Yeah that is probably the biggest part that is so arbitrary. Like it is perfectly fine if you don't like certain (sub)genres and don't like when they mix with metal, but you not liking it doesn't make it not metal even by their own definition.
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Ah ok, I was thinking it was a genre you hadn't really explored yet. I'm not too into the more heavy/power stuff. A lot of the drumming tends to be very basic/repetitive and I've never liked the vocal styles. Shame cause some of the guitar work is sweet.
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Have you tried the basics? Stuff like Ihsahn, Opeth, Tool, Ne Obliviscarus/Persefone are great starting points if you haven't. Depends kinda what flavor you prefer (death or bm style vocals, lighter/rock, more guitar, keys/other, or a healthy mix, etc..) I'm a sucker for the insane musicianship.
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I'd talk too much about drums and only ever give positive reviews cause I don't care to finish an album I don't like--let alone give it some deep analysis. Better to promote and share the good things anyway.
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The site is honestly so useful I wish it had all the metal adjacent stuff just for convenience 😂 There just isn't comparable sites for other genres (that I'm aware of).
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Like if you can't call Slipknot metal ("its nu metal! No exceptions!") while having Rush ("exception because x/y") and a bazillion folk/symphonic/rock albums all over your website I don't think I can take your curation of metal very seriously. Still love the site though.
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MA's definition is ok but their enforcement sometimes reflects their own biases over their given definition. Kinda undermines the whole thing for me.
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I feel the same! Panzerfaust is probably my favorite band of the last few years. Their album last year was my AOTY.
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Damn I have to go to this. Which means a 6 hour drive to Texas.
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The Black Album, Roots, Slaughter of the Soul, Soundtrack to Your Escape, Heritage, etc.. Some call it selling out others will say they work as gateway albums.
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EVBM - Effeminate Vampire Black Metal
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Well I gave you another like--do better 😂
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So far like two of these triggered me and the rest I'd either agree with or feel neutral 🌚
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I want a tiny home by a creek and/or pond. Unfortunately I decided to not have rich parents so it's the apartment life for me.
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I'll throw in another Symbolic vote. Not only was Gene Hoglan their best drummer but that is also probably his best work ever.
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I've listened to a few of these (Havukruunu, Drudkh, Zeicrydeus, Hate Forest). Any you are particularly impressed with outside of those?
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Like half the people I follow have made their own "Sleep Token bad" post this week. They're so divisive it's impossible for people to just not listen to them or talk about them like any other band they aren't interested in. An irresistible circlejerk on both sides.
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And now there is "r/trveblackmetalvinyl" which says "we don't advocate NS or any other kind of hate speech". I guess creating a sub literally based on promotion/discussion/sharing of NS is somehow not advocating NS.
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There is critique/praise to be had but too many are just in a rush to affirm their feelings. Then it ends up being a circlejerk. I wish people could be more self-aware.