nominalthoughts.bsky.social
allegedly doing economics @stanfordGSB
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Eh
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Ah the DSA, very representative organization. Definitely captures the zeitgeist. Surely you can learn deep insights into communities there!
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“a bunch of cishet white dudebro faux-progressives having a take on what sounds obnoxious is truly the epitome of irony.”
I was literally the only person that said obnoxious”
This is unreal
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“Obnoxious” is something I wrote
You quote something I wrote, then wrote a response
Incredible
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“filled to the brim with contrarian cishet white dudebros” is just my experience in college an, no, I did not start talking like that
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No, they don’t talk like that because people don’t normally talk like that
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I’m not a “cishet white dudebro” but I take more offense to the “progressive” part
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They do this rhetoric across the board and RW media outlets run away with any clip they can find you moron
It’s a *signal*, and someone is critiquing it off of what it *implies* as well as what it is
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Separately, given the current set of Dems, asking that question is basically stupid anyways
How about a “we can believe in and acknowledge how racism etc. plays a role in socio-economic outcomes without sounding obnoxious to people”
Would be a good start IMO, idk, maybe too risky
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You can’t analyze the statement in isolation, obviously the context of the time matters.
This same statement is less costly in a different political environment. What’s being is argued is you need to.. get back to that environment
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If people aren’t very political and don’t internalize the process then optics matters a lot
This is just obviously true. You can do things and it not matter. Dems already have people viewing them a certain way right now, you’re setting off the wrong signals by doing this
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It’s all so stupid, speaking like this about racism when the black communities in questions don’t even talk like this save for a fraction of elites and college kids
There aren’t even fundamental disagreements, it’s a pure rhetoric thing, waste of time
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Yeah, and people are stating what they shouldn’t do. And it’s obvious what they shouldn’t do and if they continue to do this then they are morons
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Your initial engagement with him involved posting a picture of his profile and extrapolating off of one sentence
If you think Ben is someone who don’t thinks things like racism and misogyny are a problem then lmfao
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People aren’t that deeply political and ideological, act normal and no good policy and don’t make everything into an identity parade and things can actually get done
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Because when Dems outperformed in 2022 midterms and got a trifecta in 2020 those margins weren’t going to do much
The senate map is worse for Dems and it’s going to require winning states that are trending red?
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I want to make people’s lives better
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There’s also a type of person who would rather spend time unjustly criticizing someone for *checks notes* the way we convey ideas to people who disagree with us (people who are currently in power!) because massaging their moral convictions is better than enacting real change, apparently
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You used the fact that Ben was a white man to dismiss his point instead of only using a substantive argument
Do you not see the issue with this, there are people who are not white men who hold the same beliefs
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Do you think Obama was some xenophobic person despite his immigration policy and rhetoric come on
It’s an election and people are complicated people who don’t internalize the political process.
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They shouldn’t be doubling down on dumb identity politics when that means making your party win less
They don’t even have to change their policies (I mean I think they should but they don’t have to) its just rhetoric
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Surely you have better critical thinking skills than this come on
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Incredible
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Never said it DID make me want to stay tbf…*
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(((Although the public would complain)))
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I think you genuinely believe this so I have to respect it
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I think it should cost 6 dollars @jules.su
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Econ blue sky, formerly known as Econtwitter, must move to Facebook IMMEDIATELY
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Cool
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I don’t mind the war
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Barely
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Thank you, also maya says hi
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Thank you both
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Ty
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Thanks
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@josephpolitano.bsky.social @scottlincicome.bsky.social @besttrousers.bsky.social @dylanmatt.bsky.social @skandaamarnath.bsky.social
Any of you have good lists?
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Ooo, stuff like this is helpful though. Any other lists? I should make a tax list.
bsky.app/profile/erik...
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Like, there are few posters
I know collective action and all that, but take-up cost and all that too...