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I am here for honest intelligent discussions. If you are not here to be honest, just miss me. If I block you, it's probably because you have no manners.
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Sure there's no shortage of homes right?
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And your motion through spacetime will STILL BE RELATIVE!!!!!!
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NO. There is no absolute movement. It is all relative. Your mind and decision making are irrelevant.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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That's me, again, explaining that your mind and decisions, are irrelevant. We are constantly moving through spacetime as per relativity. Your actions, decisions are irrelevant. There us no absolute movement.
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Here's you literally arguing that "not all motion is relative"
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Show me the contradiction. There is none.
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No. Your entire argument is ridiculous. You're stating that deliberate actions somehow make your movement absolute, which is just wrong.
You exist in spacetime and all movement, deliberate or otherwise, will be relative motion. Without exception.
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I've been arguing from the outset that relativity doesn't explain your decision making.
It does explain that any motion you undertake in spacetime, will be relative.
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Deliberate motions have nothing to do with relative motion through spacetime.
Just like intent to light a fire has nothing to do with explaining how combustion works.
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Your motion through spacetime will always be relative.
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Nope. I very clearly focussed on the intent to light the fire.
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I do understand why relativity cannot explain your actions. Because that's not what relativity explains.
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"Combustion is explained by my decision to light the fire, not chemistry"
That's how daft you sound.
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The cat is still travelling through spacetime as per relativity.
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Bringing up your personal decisions with regard to relativity, is absolutely a non sequitur.
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The discussion has moved on somewhat. You're not helpful at all.
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Relativity cannot explain your decision making. It absolutely does explain that any motion you undertake following that decision will be relative. Without exception.
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And nothing to do with relativity.
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I don't. That's your non sequitur.
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Motion through spacetime has nothing to do with intent. Again, just like the will of the driver changes nothing about the effect of the crash, no ones intent changes relative motion.
Minds are completely irrelevant to relativity.
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I'm thinking you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of relativity.
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Just as quantum physics doesn't explain my love of coffee.
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Your motion through spacetime is still relative.🤦♂️
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Thanks. That's what I've been arguing with him about.
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Motion through spacetime is always relative. This is what he's disagreeing with. There is no absolute motion.
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Motion through spacetime is relative, regardless of the cause.
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Yes. Gravity affects a naturally falling stone just the same as a dropped one. I'm embarrassed for you.
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You're literally arguing that absolute motion exists because people make decisions. And you're laughing at me?
I'll never, ever take you seriously about anything.
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Yeah thanks. He's arguing that absolute motion exists because people make decisions. I'm good.
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Nobodies' mind/will/intent changes the forces/constants of nature (gravity, combustion, relativity, etc).
Please just take a step back and think about what you're saying.
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The speed of light is the same for a photon, whether that photon is from a torch, or from a star.
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I used a very simple example about a car crashing and another about combustion, but you're still not getting it.
The intent is irrelevant: A moving thing through spacetime is a moving thing through spacetime whether it was intentional or not.
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Maybe you'll accept it more readily from someone else. There's no point us continuing this dialogue.
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I'm throwing the towel in. I've explained it so many times but you're still not getting it. I give up.
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The why is irrelevant. It's so baffling to me that you can't get your head around this. Intent us irrelevant. The motion through spacetime will always be relative to everything else that exists. There is no absolute "here".
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The motions are still relative.
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The intent is irrelevant. The movement through spacetime will always be relative.
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It's like you're arguing that the physical effects of an explosion depend on whether that explosion was intended or accidental.
The chemical reactions are the same, regardless of intent.
Nothing about the nature of motion changes because we have agency.
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The apples fall will be relative through spacetime regardless of the cause. I don't understand how you're not getting this.
A car crashing into a wall will be damaged in the same way, regardless of the will of the driver.
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Combustion doesn't change just because the spark was intentional or accidental.
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Are you saying that gravity causing a rock to fall is somehow not absolute?
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It's movement through spacetime is relative. Movement is relative. The causes are irrelevant.
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Absolutely none of that changes the nature of the movement through spacetime.
All of our movements can only be described in relation to Earth, Earth > Sun.
The causes are entirely irrelevant.
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And irrelevant. Relativity explains motion through spacetime. Not Alan's preferred bus route.
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The falling bodies movement will be relative. Regardless of the intent.
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The physical effects are the same, no matter if the cause was accidental or deliberate or random.
It's as if you're arguing that the effect of body falling is different, depending on whether they fell or were pushed. It makes no difference.
The movement through spacetime will be relative.
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Again, nothing about the causes changes the nature of the movement.