zenpec.bsky.social
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mRNA technology is literally genetic engineering.
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So if one side called the other "people are allowed to treat you like a weirdo for insisting on an archaic and confusing personal definition" for using a definition they didn't like, would you say they are acting in a productive and intellectually honest manner?
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Are intellectually honest participants in a debate supposed to consider each other's definitions?
Or shit on the other's definition?
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Is that something I said?
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No. Everyone was a threat, including "vaccinated" people.
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That wasn't a premise, that was the claim.
If you agree with my claim that's it: you are agreeing with me.
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Name one thing I said that is wrong.
You don't even know what I've said.
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So in other words "use language in exactly the way I want or you are a [insert obscene insult]".
Very "cooperative" of you.
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You can't even ask the question correctly because there are at least *two* aspects of effectiveness that were highly debated.
And only one of those matters for my claim, which you clearly haven't read yet.
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You know you are the one engaging in ad hominem right there, right?
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There's no argument. You are literally implying that I'm something purely because I appear to be that something.
That can't be anything other than a fallacy.
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Why don't you go back and actually read what I actually claimed before *you* started to object to the term "vaccines"?
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You are not the arbiter of what matters.
I decide what matters to me.
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Yes, *organically*.
You cannot force people to use the definition that you fancy.
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I don't need to refute this argument because I'm not the straw man that you are hallucinating in your head.
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If you want to call apples "oranges", go ahead.
I'm going to stick with the established definitions that have useful meaning. Thanks.
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Quotes are used precisely for this purpose.
COVID-19 mRNA shots are "vaccines" in exactly the same way as koalas are "bears".
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So if it glitters it must be gold.
Solid logic.
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No. Facts are not arguments.
COVID-19 mRNA shots don't contain a causative agent. Period.
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What does that have to do with me referring to them as "vaccines"?
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Who cares? @fenny.moe
I called them "COVID-19 shots" and he didn't like that.
That's the whole point of this thread.
He doesn't like me using quotes and referring to them as "vaccines".
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"counts as a vaccine" and "is a vaccine" are two very different statements.
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Sure. But they are not vaccines.
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OK. So you don't know what a vaccine is. Just like you didn't know what mRNA technology is.
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Exactly. So they are *nothing* like the vaccines that have been tested for decades.
They are a completely new technology that doesn't do what vaccines have done.
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They are.
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You just spelled it out.
mRNA technology avoids the production of vaccines.
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Why would I cite sources saying there's no formation of antibodies?
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It is easy.
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I'm not pretending anything.
Do COVID-19 mRNA shots have the causative agent?
It's a simple yes-or-no question.
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In the context of COVID-19, the causative agent is the agent that causes the disease, in this case the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
How is that difficult to understand?
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If you need sources that explain the most quintessential feature of mRNA technology, that means you have *no idea* what mRNA even is.
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LOL. I'll take that as "I didn't know".
That explains a lot.
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You know that COVID-19 mRNA shots don't contain any causative agent, right?
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Good thing you are the "tolerant" one.
Also, in case you didn't know "vaccinated" people also transmit the disease.
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So you don't believe in "my body my choice"?
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If reality hurts you so much, then click the block button, that's what it's for.
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You know there are studies in which participants present spike protein after 700 days, right?
Post-vaccination syndrome is now a recognized disease.
These are facts.
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What part of "COVID-19 shots are genetic engineering" is a "conspiracy theory"?
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That wasn't a promise.
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It's not a war.
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Really? Then why wasn't he found guilty of incitement?
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That's not a command. It's an idiom. And plenty of Democrats have used the same rhetoric hundreds of times.
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What is depicted in the photo.
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Except with no people.
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Trump didn't do it.