Maybe why they shouldn't be using an unsecure app to discuss war plans? Just a thought. Do I get a consultant fee now? I clearly am smarter than the people who are currently on staff.
So you are defending their incompetence? They were using an App that the Pentagon had warned them about previously. and No I Never had done such a stupid thing, and I am not even in Charge of the Nations Security and Military. You are part of the current problem America has with media if that's true
- illegally avoided retention policies;
- illegally shared classified information; and
- invited a stranger to join the group where they’re illegally sharing classified info
cast the first stone.
Hey! Hey! Fuck, there’s only one first stone. You can’t all have it!
@usatoday.com here's something relatable: take all the money you're making trying to spin Nazism into a humanizing story, and go fuck yourselves with a diamond crusted dildo
Who hasn’t given away troop movements and put our soldiers’ lives at risk by group text on unsecured cell phones with nat sec officials, some of which were traveling abroad in Moscow even? So relatable am I right?
I mean to get the info to write the article they had to actually research what happened, and to have their editor or whoever decide to put that headline on it is borderline psychological workplace abuse
This paragraph is incredible. Thanks to a drunk Secretary of defense, we leaked top secret military intelligence to Russia, China, and the entire world. But have you considered that it could be a heartwarming moment and make new friendships too?
This paragraph is good too.
“We’ve all done this”. Yep. Who among us hasn’t. Why just last night I accidentally told my family I was conducting top secret military operations instead of telling them I was going to be home 10 minutes late. Oopsie doopsie.
Never had a security clearance or known someone who does at best, huh? Collaborators get their's in the end. Stop betraying your country before it's too late for you, get a different job.
Because it's so patently wrongheaded I sometimes I wonder if it's intentional bootlicking with these boobs or are they just absolute vacuous airheads with a deadline ..such that one has to wonder if they got their journalism credits out of a box of Crackerjacks.
oh sure I accidentally share war plans over an unsecured and unapproved consumer app all the time, totally relatable, lol, what a silly goof this whole thing is, let’s all move on, amirite
Laugh it up:
"A vulnerability has been identified in the Signal messenger application," the email reads. "The use of Signal by common targets of surveillance and espionage activity has made the application a high value target to intercept sensitive information." https://www.newsweek.com/signal-app-vulnerability-trump-war-plan-text-2050469
Sorry i can’t relate. I’m not responsible for the highest level of top secret security clearance in the world.
Oh and reminder that the Rosenbergs leaked nuclear data to the Soviets and got the electric chair. I feel like a dismissal is at least warranted, especially post all the Hillary nonsense.
Oh c’mon ! These people are in charge of our Nation’s most sensitive information! They should not have been in a group chat on a commercially available app discussing plans to bomb the Houthi’s in Yemen! These are people are amateurs and must be fired or resign.
No, this isn't relatable. Most people aren't making decisions about who to bomb. Also, operational security requires diligence, discipline, and a thorough understanding of the stakes involved when handling senitive info.
This is an abject failure to responsibly handle the power they've been given.
And another one: What if the people in charge mass media such as USAToday understood the ramifications of finding excuses for gross incompetence at the highest levels of government?
EXACTLY Why are these people even IN this text chain? THAT IS THE FIRST FUCKING RULE OF SECURITY!! and nobody is talking about it! Guaranteed they are using this type of ignorance of operation EVERYWHERE!
This is NOT relatable.
Stop gaslighting us. People know the difference between a group chat to organize Aunty May's birthday and a serious conversation about bombing people.
Are you fucking kidding me with this? The app was BANNED BY THE DoD for just this reason. There are literal regulations for this type of meeting. This is not "oops my bananas in pajamas t-shirt got seen on camera" or even I stood up with no pants. This is behavior that could have cost lives.
It is never acceptable to fail to fully validate participants to cabinet level exchanges, especially when war planning, tactics, targets and staging is discussed. Thinking you'd fire the secretary that let Steve Bannon into your editorial meetings.
If I had added someone to a work chat where that person SHOULDN’T BE THERE, I would be sacked. And my job is as cars as US security as it can be.
Are you imbeciles?
Most relatable?!? There are government protocols for a reason. They were attempting to avoid their coms being logged per government guidelines. Not relatable - dereliction of duty.
US media, like the entire dem establishment, simply not rising to meet this moment & instead doing everything possible to normalize what is nakedly outrageous
What the fuck? They aren't supposed to be using Signal in the first place because of "relatable" fails like this (and the well-founded suspicions that its security has been compromised by hackers).
"Who *hasn't* had the bottom rip out of a paper bag??"
"YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CARRY THE BABY IN IT!"
What they stated was that people USED SIGNAL AS AN ATTACK VECTOR. That's different from 'hacking Signal.'
It matters because literally any messaging app anywhere can be used as an attack vector in that way. People think that because Signal's secure, it's also *safe*. They are not the same things.
I suppose it could be, depending on context & who's speaking; I work in IT so in my context it's 'how do I get person to start engaging with my exploit.' In this case, a Signal message.
It's like a disease vector, which is how you get the pathogen into the host: Aerosol, blood-borne, touch, etc.
To draw analogy to disease vectors: Much as you can wear a mask or refrain from unprotected sex to reduce risk from pathogens, you can make Signal (or WhatsApp or Telegram) safer by curating contacts & groups or not clicking unvetted links.
That what I was trying to say I think. Not hacking signal but they are able to use it to get viruses or other bad stuff onto your device if you interact with the.
This is how you discuss an epic failure of national security and utter incompetence? Try some serious journalism instead of making light of a very serious breach of protocol and illegal use of an app to conduct classified business at DOD.
Are you fucking kidding me? I've had to have multiple conversations about sending messages in company group chats with employees and they all understood when I said to knock it off. I run a restaurant. Not the fucking Department of Defense. None of this is relatable.
Just stopped by to enjoy you getting ratioed. Spilling national security secrets isn’t in fact relatable you absolute morons. Please delete this article before you make the national dialogue even stupider than it already is
We aren’t in charge of the military. And you used a 5th grader as an analogy. These men should all be held accountable for this error and it’s pathetic you are making it seem like it’s not a huge issue
Are you seriously defending this complete fail? This was not a discussion about having a beer with friends or something… by the way as an European I am also shocked by how senior 🇺🇸 admin are speaking about their allies!
The article isn’t defending it, it’s just using a pretty serious event to examine WHY people in general might accidentally do this type of thing. It’s a pretty weird and unnecessary angle to take for sure though.
Yes and it’s unnecessary why did they decide to take if not to minimize the gravity of such a fail? There was not a single adult in the room here.
Why amongst these seniors didn’t anyone stop it? Why? That’s the question to ask for proper journalists instead of minimizing things… just my 2 cents…
The incident from Trumps team is there to serve as an example (there are other examples) of tech related mishaps and then an “expert” explains why they happen. The story isn’t ABOUT that incident
Well obviously. I mean, the article didn’t say it was ok what happened. The article itself isn’t intended to be a scathing critique of the incident. Its kind of just looking at various examples of how modern tech can cause mistakes from not important things to REALLY important things
As an ashamed American, I am shocked, too. Please know that millions of us voted for Harris and are doing all we can while dealing with immense stress over the situation.
what the fuck? It’s illegal what they did! It’s not about the oopsie of accidentally adding someone. They were using illegal and most likely compromised channels of communication. ffs, these media clowns are worse than maga.
no, we’re not gonna turn this into some charming anecdote. opsec isn’t something you fuck around with. this administration is unqualified, dangerous, and can’t even meet the standards they claim to embody.
So true. I was just telling my friends in a WhatsApp how I wanted to castrate a certain politician and wouldn’t you know it? I sent it to the USDA. My bad
Comments
https://youtu.be/RU5F_Bospis
It's not hard.
This is a serious security issue and you are treating it like a Lifestyle Issue.
Trump really has made us a horrible country. The republicans have really made us stupid and evil and you are acting like it's a game.
- illegally avoided retention policies;
- illegally shared classified information; and
- invited a stranger to join the group where they’re illegally sharing classified info
cast the first stone.
Hey! Hey! Fuck, there’s only one first stone. You can’t all have it!
they billed themselves as smart
they are not
@usatoday.com here's something relatable: take all the money you're making trying to spin Nazism into a humanizing story, and go fuck yourselves with a diamond crusted dildo
What a fucking embarrassing article
They were discussing classified military operation like it was a frat kegger.
“We’ve all done this”. Yep. Who among us hasn’t. Why just last night I accidentally told my family I was conducting top secret military operations instead of telling them I was going to be home 10 minutes late. Oopsie doopsie.
Blocking both of them.
Delete this, you callous assholes
This is NOT something “everyone can relate to”
NOTHING about this is Normal or relatable
You never were steadfast on reporting, but now you’re just Pravda now
Please, USA Today stop failing America
"A vulnerability has been identified in the Signal messenger application," the email reads. "The use of Signal by common targets of surveillance and espionage activity has made the application a high value target to intercept sensitive information."
https://www.newsweek.com/signal-app-vulnerability-trump-war-plan-text-2050469
Oh and reminder that the Rosenbergs leaked nuclear data to the Soviets and got the electric chair. I feel like a dismissal is at least warranted, especially post all the Hillary nonsense.
This is an abject failure to responsibly handle the power they've been given.
HOPE THAT HELPS, YOU PASSEL OF GORMLESS DIPSHITS
That’s why your crosswords ain’t shyt
And even if we did, we not discussing national security issues!
You folks are a disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourselves. A "blunder?" It's a crime that could have put pilots' lives in danger.
make Law Enforcement a for-profit enterprise.
Publishing the Public Notices, At Auction lists of RICO confiscations that were often not even party to,
or the subject of, arrests.
Just straight up theft of people's property.
What, actually the fuck, IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Stop gaslighting us. People know the difference between a group chat to organize Aunty May's birthday and a serious conversation about bombing people.
Check your anticipatory compliance. Provide a report that matches the severity of this error
Protect the fourth estate! Don't collaborate!
Are you imbeciles?
Also legacy media: "Omg fascists they're just like us frfr. 🤩"
Equitable? Not in a million years.
It has to be hard to breathe with that boot so far down your throat.
you’re not just carrying water for this regime, your head is stuck full down the barrel
look at your ratio and consider just how dumb this reporting is.
"Who hasn't added a stranger"? Please tell your 12 year old headline writer it's past their bedtime.
FFS
wtf is wrong with you?
I only do that, um well never!
"Who *hasn't* had the bottom rip out of a paper bag??"
"YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CARRY THE BABY IN IT!"
It matters because literally any messaging app anywhere can be used as an attack vector in that way. People think that because Signal's secure, it's also *safe*. They are not the same things.
It's like a disease vector, which is how you get the pathogen into the host: Aerosol, blood-borne, touch, etc.
Muted forever 👋
did you just do the "hwomst amongst us" joek
is this who you are now
and can I join your group chat?
Nope, complete shithole of an article. "Wow, this is such an easy mistake to make, haha! Here's a list of what to do if it happens to YOU!"
Fuck off.
Why amongst these seniors didn’t anyone stop it? Why? That’s the question to ask for proper journalists instead of minimizing things… just my 2 cents…
https://bsky.app/profile/sgtrick.bsky.social/post/3ll7nujwa2s25
Just a note: most of us haven’t had a group chat on bombs.