No Lewis. It was appalling for Trump and Vance. Zelensky showed enormous courage to politely speak truth to power. They, especially Vance, showed themselves as boorish, classless bullies.
The reason Lewis is correct is because however appalling any decent person would consider the behaviour of Trump and Vance, they still hold the power to destroy the world and arrogance to do it.
AGREE WITH YOU ! The US provided security guarantees under Minsk 1 & 2 agreements. Now Zelensky is being silenced for bringing it up. Their country was invaded and the US wants it to sign a minerals deal with no assurance of a security guarantee ? WHICH crazy leader would agree to that ? 🙄
Unless you specifically mean for Z that it is ‘appalling’ for his prospects of US support, this is a terrible take @lewisgoodall.com. Z was pushing uphill whatever the approach, but he remained stoic against aggression here. I have deeper respect for him after this exchange.
There was no 'exchange', they wouldn't let him get a word in
It was a planned hijack
Trump and Vance shouting him down like the school yard bullies they are
How he sat there and didn't walk out was remarkable
The American people should be ashamed of their 'leaders'
Difficult to see how Zelenskyy can get a result out of this argument. Not really his fault, he’s not an experienced diplomat but neither are Trump and Vance. Trouble is, they hold all the cards.
I think it has just exposed the true position of trump for all to see. The remaining free world should be clear eyed about what they are going to have to do as long as this cancer afflicts America
Agreed. I have great respect for Lewis as a journalist, he's normally an exceptional communicator. He's off the mark here. I hope he revises or clarifies his point.
trump vance trying to belittle & bully is a disgusting spectacle. Zelensky is ten times the man either of them will ever be.
Probably easy for me to say, but I'd walk away from those two bastards & focus 100% on a relationship with the whole of Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Fuck trump
I despise these Muthafuckas with everything I have!!! If I were Zelensky I would have just walked out.. deal off!! He thinks a threat of WW3 is leverage... Trying to gaslight him!!!
As a teacher, this is like watching the head telling off a bullied kid for allowing himself to be bullied by the bigger kids. "You shouldn't have let yourself get into this position!"
I'm halfway through a 10 min YouTube vid because I'm so fumingly enraged.
That is the most disgusting example of traitorous, disrespectful, insulting behaviour delivered to a genuine hero by an incontinent senile moron and an eyeliner wearing bearded ponce I've ever seen in my fucking life.
It just feels like a set up. Calls him a dictator etc. then says Did I? Then this. It’s some sort of twisted game. It’s probably been arranged so that Trump can pull support for Ukraine and give Putin a chance to make more land gains. Hope Europe can step up and fast.
Zelensky did nothing wrong. He was trapped by two monsters who only get away with it because people like you are incapable of saying the truth and have to both sides everything.
Please believe me: It IS appalling for the USA. More than half of us DID NOT vote for the full-diaper dictator. I feel like we’re being held hostage by Elon & Trump. #IVotedForHillaryAndKamala
The similarities with Nazi Germany continue. The nazi leader did exactly the same thing with Hácha the Czech leader on 14 March 1939. Europe must strengthen its resolve in the face of the faschos in the White House or we will be lost.
Trump may come out with it with a tiny bruise on his enormous ego, but he bears grudges, so the fallout of this is likely to be much worse for Zelensky
Zelensky did nothing wrong, he stood his ground against two bullies. America had just been disgraced on the world stage. Trump looks more and more like a Russian asset as each day passes.
Reporter just said it’s been a bad day for Zalenski.
Fact is it’s been bad day for the World and any regard for decency.
Trump is a totally disreputable individual and shame on those who voted for him.
Even in my wildest imagination did I think that Trump could disgust me more.
I wish I could unsee and unhear this press conference.
Trump said “It will be difficult to do business with you”.
This needs to be fully understood
Everyone is saying Trump is all the deal
But Ukraine faces an existential threat
Trump trivialises everything
He is boorish and despicable
Trump is always lowering the lowest bar for normal human behavior. We are trying to figure out how not to let him drag the rest of the USA down with him. Please know we’re working on it.
That was unusual though even by Trump 'standards'. Macron and Starmer are indulged, even when they correct him. Zelenskyy comes to sign the mineral deal and from nowhere Trump erupts, spoling for a fight and ruining the deal? Why?
I’d be hitting the shelters early tonight if I were in Ukraine - the tangerine turd is basically inviting the Russians to increase their attacks. Appalling.
Vance is an embarrassment for the US ! He has no diplomatic nor negotiation skills. Zelensky was polite. Zelensky just corrected what was said. But Vance instigated the accusation !Its the US w/c reneged on security guarantees to Ukraine under Minsk agreements!! Ukraine is the victim! 😡
I’ve watched some pro trump news outlets clips this morning. They think Trump did great. They love having the power of life or death in their hands. They think they are so powerful. It’s so scary
Stage managed to justify Trump siding with Putin. Some will criticise Zelensky for losing his cool but when you have smarmy Vance patronising a guy who has given his all for his country in the last three years, it’s understandable.
So take the held Russian money and spend it on arms for Ukraine. Never seen such a dreadful responses like Trump and Vance. Was it deliberate? And get our defence spend to 5% ASAP, invest in Europe tech +++.
Trump and Vance are an absolute disgrace to their country. What a pair of bullying, ignorant scumbags. They aren’t fit to lick Zelensky’s boots. Disgust is the only thing that sums up how their performance makes me feel.
Trump is a bully, he threw his toys out of the pram because he didn’t get his own way or panicked because he has to answer to Putin. Zelensky is right not to give in. And oh the irony,
that it began with a comment about clothing when you think how Elon turns up to everything!
JD Vance is a shrill and vulgar little shrew of a man. Trying to shine in front of his imbecilic boss, he was truly repulsive. America, hang your head in shame; you are now led by a mafia clique of complete and utter fuckwits.
Vance was Trump's little snappy attack dog, pleasing his master, then Trump joins in gleefully with the beating. Disgusting bullying aggressive behaviour, like witnessing a gang of older boys battering a kid after school. If I was American I'd be deeply ashamed these people were representing me.
The world have now seen first hand how Trump operates (& has done for 50 yrs). He’s a bully & a braggart.
This was a stage managed mugging.
Trump wants Zelenskyy gone so he can brag to Putin. #Trump #Zelenskyy #Putin
Zelensky may have the moral high ground but the reality is that not securing US support will cost Ukrainian lives. Sucking up to Trump might leave a poor taste in the mouth but the alternative is the complete loss of US funding and military support. More people will die for because he did not kowtow
Sorry Lewis not everyone, Trump and Vance attacked and abused Zelensky, you must have been watching something different. What was Zelensky supposed to do, bow down and kiss Trumps ring. Hope King Charles revokes the state visit, we don't need Trump
Zelensky shows remarkable resilience in the face of such bullying and hectoring by trump and vance. A real leader contrasted with a wannabe autocrat and his yapping sidekick.
We are all involved.
Trump, a no class tramp. He's not the embarrassment, that's the system that allowed such a patently unsuitable and broken candidate near power is a dangerous crock of crap.
It shows - to anyone who has eyes to see and ears to hear - that Trump and JD are dangerous bullies who have no respect for international security and diplomacy.
So awful to watch this. My partner said it reminded him of when he has had experience of bad managers treating employees like shit. I think most of us will have seen this in our personal lives. And we will all have the same reaction. Truely Sickening.
It’s no surprise that draft- dodging Cadet Bone Spurs and the eyeliner aficionado, sofa shagger VP channel their inadequacy into trying to humiliate Zelensky.
Trump and Valance treated Zelensky like a child, scolding him, not letting him speak. Not looking good for the US leaders, Zelensky was remarkably calm under that onslaught.
In diplomacy, THIS IS NOT HOW TO WELCOME A LEADER by bringing out thorny issues & accusing him in a welcome press con. 👎It should have been reserved for A SECOND PRESS CON AFTER the leaders talked.VANCE HAS NO NEGOTIATION SKILLS! The US reneged on security guarantees under Minsk agreements!! 😡
Excuse me ? This was a White House arranged press con. You dont allow the parties to bring out thorny issues in a welcome press con . This did not happen before. The Trump administration FAILED MISERABLY !
This meeting made feel sad, and angry. I felt so sorry for Zelensky, they’re treating him like a naughty teenager, absolutely disgusting behaviour, considering they run America for goodness sake 😡😢
Quite frankly, what Trump and Vance did today should be impeachable. They provided aid and comfort to our enemy, Vladimir Putin, and turned on our ally. What is more treasonous than that?
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Zelensky shouldn't be tarred with the Trump/Vance brush.
Media today - we’re shocked and appalled that Trump is trying to bully Zelenskyy into signing over Ukraine’s resources!
This is the next 4 years, isn’t it?
Unfeeling sociopaths
In the world of bullies, it is Zelenskyy who will bear the cost of that shaming.
#Ukraine #PutinWarCriminal
It was a planned hijack
Trump and Vance shouting him down like the school yard bullies they are
How he sat there and didn't walk out was remarkable
The American people should be ashamed of their 'leaders'
Zelenskyy behaved well in the face of provocation, and your skeet comes across as equating his behaviour with that of Trump and Vance.
Not cool.
Probably easy for me to say, but I'd walk away from those two bastards & focus 100% on a relationship with the whole of Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Fuck trump
That is the most disgusting example of traitorous, disrespectful, insulting behaviour delivered to a genuine hero by an incontinent senile moron and an eyeliner wearing bearded ponce I've ever seen in my fucking life.
Zelensky is 21st century hero & has form when it comes to pushing back on autocrats.
Trump is a thin-skinned little man-baby
Please correct your tweet.
No surprise that this lot who also released that awful Trump Gaza video, dismantled it.
Surprised Z did not storm out or sock Vance in the mouth.
Slava Ukraine & Free Palestine.
Its Russia, North Korea, Iran and USA, vs the Western Alliance/NATO.
America will be leaving NATO soon enough and then the transition will be complete
Fact is it’s been bad day for the World and any regard for decency.
Trump is a totally disreputable individual and shame on those who voted for him.
I wish I could unsee and unhear this press conference.
Trump said “It will be difficult to do business with you”.
Everyone is saying Trump is all the deal
But Ukraine faces an existential threat
Trump trivialises everything
He is boorish and despicable
This is all so very 1939, with a dose of 2025 reality tv.
"Truly appalling"?
"Absolutely f**king disgusting" may be more like it?
I genuinely think America has just sunk to a low I couldn't have imagined even Trump sinking it to.
That was unusual though even by Trump 'standards'. Macron and Starmer are indulged, even when they correct him. Zelenskyy comes to sign the mineral deal and from nowhere Trump erupts, spoling for a fight and ruining the deal? Why?
Something doesn't add up.
It’s a kick up the pants to Europe.
Zelensky: Have you visited our frontline?
JD Vance: I've been..... I've watched the pictures
America, you're really doing yourself proud on the world stage
Zelenskyy conducted himself admirably.
Trump and Vance were an outrage.
It does far more to trump then anyone realizes
that it began with a comment about clothing when you think how Elon turns up to everything!
They support war Putin created?
Think invader trumps the invaded?
Or USA supports communist war?
FU for abandoning all we stand for!
It must be so embarrassing to be a decent american right now.
Zelenskyy doesn’t pander to weak pathetic bullies.
This was a stage managed mugging.
Trump wants Zelenskyy gone so he can brag to Putin. #Trump #Zelenskyy #Putin
Zelensky wasn’t.
#SlavaUkraine
Trump, a no class tramp. He's not the embarrassment, that's the system that allowed such a patently unsuitable and broken candidate near power is a dangerous crock of crap.
Oh please oh please make it so
Why ?
God bless Zelensky 🙌
https://bsky.app/profile/unitedstatesofa.bsky.social/post/3ljca7ldcoc2m
Appalling for Zelenskyy and Ukraine who are fighting for their way of life.
Time for European leaders to step up.
Devastatingly I think it was the planned outcome if Trump didn’t get vast quantities of Ukraine assets signed over (to the US or him personally…?)