The great thing about this is. This is not an episode of Fox news. Lying ,acting outraged and insulting the journalist you texted does not make it go away.
This is the real world and Americans know incomptence when they see it.
No, more voters in 2024 voted for someone other than trump & some who held their noses & voted for him are regretting that now. As for the House reps, we owe the Republican majority to gerrymandering in some states that have more registered Democrats than the breakdown of representatives suggests.
Let's not kid ourselves and believe that just because the person is a Democrat that they are competent because a majority of them aren't. US voters vote for the wrong people on both sides of the aisle. We have a terrible judgement of character and morality. Maybe not everyone but certainly most.
Yes. Americans with brains, Americans who think, decent Americans know incompetence when they see it. MAGATs, however, do not know; they believe outrageous lies and total fascist bullshit because they are none of the previously mentioned.
You summed it up in the way I do- many of his base seem to be lazy in their continued support of Trump- not willing to spend the time to research when he makes outlandish statements, assuming that because he has made a “promise “ it will actually come to be. And we pay the price for their ignorance
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Right. They just put the war plans in an open chat on an unsecured privately owned public social media site. It's no worse than loudly planning your invasion at a TGI Fridays.
I think I can help parse this- "Nobody" stands, obviously "somebody" did this. "Texting" could be debatable about what Signal does. "War:" they could argue that there is no declared "war" in Yemen. But "plans" are definitely what they were- a list of structured future actions.
Drawing on my extensive engineering background and absolutely no psychology training. I would like to offer my expert opinion on this and say with a great degree of confidence that he is lying.
He published screen shots of some of the text messages with his story in the Atlantic. Of course, being a responsible journalist and an upstanding American, Mr. Goldberg did not publish anything that would endanger the country or military personnel.
It’s one thing to lie as a talking face host on a propaganda network, it’s another thing entirely to blatantly lie as a Sec Def. Nothing that comes out of his mouth can be trusted by anyone including the Exec Branch, allies, military, citizens, contractors. He must resign
Exactly this. By reframing the issue to whether or not this was war plans, whether or not it was legal to publish, they are sidestepping that the conversation itself broke the law.
There’s no way this was a first time occurrence. This is their normal way of doing things so all of their messaging disappears into the ether. No accountability, no chance for subpoenas, no chance for FOIA.
Govt devices wouldn’t allow Signal, this was all done on private devices, open to all spies.
Not just trump though - every one of his creepy appointees:
1. Wants unbridled power
2. Doesn’t give a damn about democracy
3. Will be in deep trouble if a law abiding, Democratic Gov ever rules again.
Heads outta roll. I mean today. If Trump has any integrity left in any bone in his body, he needs to fire the people involved in this total fiasco. They knew what they were doing. They screwed up.
We all know Trump's a moron and hired people like him who looked good on TV.
We all knew they were going to blame everything on Waltz. As Tammy Duckworth said on MSNBC five minutes ago, they'll produce a sacrificial lamb but everyone who was on that phone call needs to lose their job.
On Signal, **the reporter's initials appeared in the chat for days**, and not one of these bozos thought to ask who they were and what they were doing there!
You know, it REALLY pisses me off when people add that "Boomer" shit. Classing 70 million people as idiots and pretending Boomers are the sole reason we're in this mess. (I would have made this comment on Willow's page; but, she has restricted comments.)
Signal is not just “unauthorized”, but because it deletes texts automatically it was clearly being used to dodge the Records Act which says official business correspondence needs to be archived🤦🏽♀️
Except Pete Hegseth was texting war plans, and all the others in this admin of morons, and the proof is the media outlet they are now trashing was included in the group text...and they did exactly what they texted to the media.
It’s not ur fault Pete. You should never have been put in this position. You’re ridiculously unqualified for the role, only got the job because Trump heard you talk about guns on Fox News, and, let’s face it, probably pissed right now.
#DUI hire
Yes, the White House said waltz learned his lesson and he’s a good man and now these guys are denying it as if they didn’t even know what Trump said! What a bunch of buffoons.
Agree
They lie like children. It’s so easy to see and I pray to God Americans are smart enough to see through it, but I’m wondering
Democrats need to get much much more aggressive. Now.
He sounds like a scared little bitch. This happening under Hegseths watch is the most unsurprising thing since Johnny football shit the bed in the NFL. But 60 days in? Hahahahaha 😂😂😂😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫🥴🥴🥴🥴
Good to see him taking full responsibility. It is so well documented that it is outrageous. And then trashing the editor that he leaked to .
I will call the White House tomorrow for what it is worth ( not much)
This administration is more concerned about keeping information from the American people, the press, and their political opponents than our actual enemies.
So now, with Goldberg describing them as war plans & Hegseth claiming they are not war plans, the only way to sort out the truth is to release the plans (at least to a trusted 3rd party evaluator). I don't think Hegseth thought this out, at least not if he doesn't want to reveal war plans. Again.
Well what he’s hoping for is that since it is technically classified info, he can deny and the journalist actually cared about national security matters so he didn’t post the screenshots of those details and if he does to show him lying everything would shift from him to the journalist being a leak
Mama? Oh no—wait. NOT mama. Ignore that last txt. It wz for, um, JD Vance. Yeah, Vance. NOT you. 😬 I didn’t mean to talk about war plans, BUT—hear me out—the wine tasted GOOOD. Like, gourmet level. Do u forgive me? Say u do. Love u. 💕 Also plz delete this text... like, forever. 🙈
Luv Pete.
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And they were all worried about Hunter's laptop?
This is the real world and Americans know incomptence when they see it.
😂🤣😅🤣😂
Defensive response
Definitely lying
He obviously didn't read it.
#DonniesFollies
Also Pete, as a former alcoholic, I know exactly what you did.
You got drunk, fucked up, & are too toxic & addicted to admit to the mistake. Like a child.
It was not war plan but military strike plan.
That the last desperate defense they found.
It is a bad one…like his competences
Can straight face lie like the best of em…
Trumpesque in his delivery
He's playing the typical Republican game of playing with words.
Making popcorn 🍿
At what point will they be held accountable????
Govt devices wouldn’t allow Signal, this was all done on private devices, open to all spies.
1. Wants unbridled power
2. Doesn’t give a damn about democracy
3. Will be in deep trouble if a law abiding, Democratic Gov ever rules again.
Denial is only making things worse
Also, if Goldberg is such a horrible reporter and person, why did you share all this info with him, Pete?
We all know Trump's a moron and hired people like him who looked good on TV.
Heads must roll. Now.
I mean. He failed miserably at his job. So he needs to take the fall, right?
And of course, all the others should have said ''No way we discuss this on an unsecure, although encrypted, group chat''
Bunch of fuckin amateurs
Like John Bolton said ''If Trump feels that he's getting dragged into this personally, he will fire people. If not, he won't be firing anyone.''
He doesn't give a fuck about National Security, it's always just about him.
It’s that ALL OF THEM were discussing classified information about a military strike in progress on an unclassified circuit.
Sure it’s “secure”…. Unless you are the NSA, SVR, GRU, or MSS.
I've read the whole account (apart from the sensitive stuff of course) and the only objection was Vance saying maybe they're making a mistake.
Not one word about their means of communication.
They thought Waltz, who is the motherfuckin National Security Advisor of the United States, did things right.
Haha.
What a shitshow. They should all be kicked out for this mess and nobody opposed to it!
https://bsky.app/profile/rockshrimp.bsky.social/post/3ll5sz7panc27
Get off Signal, dipshits. 💯 UNAUTHORIZED use.
And they don’t care how reckless that is.
And if it doesn't go in a way you're happy with? You can let your Representatives and Senators know about it here:
https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
Act like a third grader, be treated like one.
Unreal.
So now Hegseth just lied on top of being beyond incompetent. Keep digging that hole, Hegseth!
https://archive.ph/M0Jtp
#DUI hire
Time to resign knobhead
emptied at only 9:30 am Eastern time
They lie like children. It’s so easy to see and I pray to God Americans are smart enough to see through it, but I’m wondering
Democrats need to get much much more aggressive. Now.
The more transparently false the lie, the better.
I will call the White House tomorrow for what it is worth ( not much)
Sounds like you may need some.
Good luck!
Naah, nvm
Tool.
"They in fact, did" -- Ron Howard narrator voice
Chat thread released.
So, Hegseth told us all that he is a NOBODY.
Definition of Nobody: A person of no importance or authority.
#Hegseth #Hegxit
Liar liar pants are definitely on FIRE!!
He violated US espionage law: 18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
And if it doesn't go in a way you're happy with? You can let your Representatives and Senators know about it here:
https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
Luv Pete.