They are just teaming up against Europe, and trying to use imperialist tactics to suggest that the European countries dont have any sovereignty or reason to exist.
Trump and Putin's private phone calls divided the world between them like Yalta imo. I think Trump is letting Putin have all of the EU as his "sphere of influence".
Yes, but every time they openly and aggressively do this, resistance grows. Russia doesnt have the capacity to take Europe, without American active involvement.
It will resume, cheap gas is a big political win for the CDU. It can be claimed it would keep Russia in line because they would stop it if they broke the ceasefire etc
No, it won't.
The EU is ramping up it's defense spending massively to protect itself from Russia.
Doing that while at the same time you're financing your opponents military is the definition of insanity.
This is the CDU. The party who gave Ukraine nothing after 2014 and forged massive cooperation with Russia. Talk is cheap, cheap gas gets votes. Once Ukraine is carved up that nord stream will start pumping
And Merkel and the CDU itself have received massive backlash and lost popular support because of those policies and what they caused.
People that think that the EU will just return to a status quo pro ante even if this wholle mess is resolved without the war escalating, are deluding themselves.
It doesn't look like Hollywood insanity. It doesn't look like untreated hallucinating on the street. The media and his people do everything to normalize it. So people are accepting this cartoony behavior as his unique "personality".
It's not unique. It's a display of symptoms.
🇪🇺 Europe, wake up.
🛑 Russia demands US to direct influence on a multitude of actions - for Ukraine, the US should issue a ceasefire "order", for Europe, the US should issue an "order" to resume Nord Stream...
😡 This is dragging the US into the humiliation of its own partners.
All Europe is worried about so-called agreements between the US and Russia, undermining NATO , The EU and anyone who appreciates the social and security benefits of European life
Wtf? What has the US to do with our infrastructure in Europe. Could finally some politican in Europe shut the US up. It is enough. Close Ramstein immediately (and their NSA facilities in Europe)
That was Trumps position then but now I believe he sees the pipeline as part of his business opportunity with Russia. It was a mistake for Europe before and it would be a terrible mistake now
Russia and US negotiating for and over the EU? Okay. Just like they are negotiating for and over Ukraine.
Well Americans, we understand you are now in bed with Putin’s Russia. We need only one thing from you: to f#ck off.
The war is going to continue while the US will remove sanctions in the most messy and obvious way possible while blaming Ukraine and Europe for their own malicious stupidity
yep Trump is going to personally cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands more Russians by giving Putin a lifeline. Is this how Trump will win the Nobel Peace Prize?
Don’t let them off the hook. Russia is failing militarily and economically. Keep the pressure on. It is the only way to ensure that we are not here again in 5 years time.
It's a harmless concession to Russia. It's up to Europe not to use it.
USA has a lot of leverage on Ukraine and it seems almost none on Russia, unless they confront them militarily directly(no hope).
Sanctions are effective but its effects show up only in the long time.
Military support is just the bare minimum to stop Russians advancing.
So it's been from the beginning and ongoing.
Maybe trying ostensibly to appease Russia has the goal to get some leverage. Arguing with Europe is part of the same I hope pose. Let's see. But prepare for the worst.
So US is negotiating with russia a pipeline that runs through europe to europe and a customer base being in europe but... without europe?!? Hmm okay. 😂
While you're right in regard of CDU's position regarding environmental aspects vs industry, I think their position regarding Russia prevents this. Nord Stream is a security risk as is any dependency on Russia and this should be clear.
It’s about cheap gas. And there are people in the CDU already active involved and others in the east demanding that. With the US backing this, why should they resist?
The risk would be easy to handle, but there is none for them.
So your logic is that Merz simultaneously wants to create an unprecedented increase in defense spending to defend against an urgent threat of Russian aggression, but because a minority of primarily AfD supporters (not his party) want Russian gas, he's totally into funding Russia's war machine?
That is another wedge in society. There are quite a few in the CDU who want that. And even if Merz is against it, the AFD will stir up the population. In two years' time, the AFD will be in power and Putin will - once again - have won (because our politicians are dumber than cattle).
And what exactly do these Nazi-Ruzzians think USA can do about that? That we Germans will sit down with Orange Man to negotiate this with him? Seriously?🤣
What Lavrov and Russia may want in terms of things is not necessarily the same as it happening. Trump and Putin are in over their heads every single day. Example: Putin suddenly wants the UN to be included in the negotiations. It's a nose stealer to the U.S.
Looks to me like those pipelines are in the EEZ of several EU nations, EU nations who are absolutely sick of Putin's manipulation and poison. Like so much of the current situation, I am not sure why the USA even enters the conversation since it is not involved.
From a purely technical perspective: existing damaged pipelines of NS1 and 2 are non usable and should be built anew. It's not like turning on a tap again (although probably Trump thinks it's exactly how this works).
russia is just poking to make sure that the rift between EU & US remains or even becomes bigger.
Unity scares them. The opposite is what they aim for.
Unfortunately some actions by this US leadership make things easy for the russians... For now...
Trump may seem pro ru, he is also very volatile.
"Funny.
Yet it was DONALD TRUMP who, in his first term of office, WARNED Europe and especially Germany against becoming too dependent on Russia through Nord Stream."
So they are negotiating with the US about infrastructure which currently is 3/4 unusuable, and which would require a German license, without including Germany in the discussion?
These world bullies make decisions that benefit them & then try to enforce these decisions on the world. They cry loudly & bring out the victim card if refused, in addition to bullying and bribes.
🇺🇸 is under 🇷🇺 control (at least partially) & is trying to assist 🇷🇺.
🇺🇸 current trump regime is not on team 🇺🇸 & has done many things to weaken the 🇺🇸 military, economy & the will and health of 🇺🇸 people. 🇺🇸 has abandoned allies preferring to ally w/🇷🇺.
What does trump have to do with Europe? And why would trump want competitors in the market? If this is true, we can finally admit that trump is owned by russia because he is literally doing damage to his own country
Trump and his entire administration are Russian assets. None of these people care about the American people. And America first is Trump and his mob administration who was elected with the help of V Putin to destroy our Constitution and democracy. They're all treasonous traitors.
What kind of say do the Americans have over European contries.
This is the classic russian approach of "master nation" us, ru and "puppet nation" eu, ukraine, central asian republics etc.
F* off
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The EU is ramping up it's defense spending massively to protect itself from Russia.
Doing that while at the same time you're financing your opponents military is the definition of insanity.
People that think that the EU will just return to a status quo pro ante even if this wholle mess is resolved without the war escalating, are deluding themselves.
It doesn't look like Hollywood insanity. It doesn't look like untreated hallucinating on the street. The media and his people do everything to normalize it. So people are accepting this cartoony behavior as his unique "personality".
It's not unique. It's a display of symptoms.
It's not being called out.
Experts have been rejected in favor of brightly chatting talk show hosts.
June 2023
https://www.salon.com/2023/06/01/trials-and-triggers-psychiatrists-warn-psychosis-will-grow-as-he-becomes-more-desperate/
🛑 Russia demands US to direct influence on a multitude of actions - for Ukraine, the US should issue a ceasefire "order", for Europe, the US should issue an "order" to resume Nord Stream...
😡 This is dragging the US into the humiliation of its own partners.
Also US: we negotiate the peace to Ukraine and building gaslinevto Europe with Russia.
Nord stream is dead
Asking for advice from a local idiot or the Russian ministry of foreign relations…
Negotiating over Europe without Europe.
They can fuck right off
Which Euro countries will allow this?!
Whatever TRAITOR tRUmp's little putie wants, putie gets !
Glory to Ukraine
Just saying.
Well Americans, we understand you are now in bed with Putin’s Russia. We need only one thing from you: to f#ck off.
USA has a lot of leverage on Ukraine and it seems almost none on Russia, unless they confront them militarily directly(no hope).
Sanctions are effective but its effects show up only in the long time.
So it's been from the beginning and ongoing.
Maybe trying ostensibly to appease Russia has the goal to get some leverage. Arguing with Europe is part of the same I hope pose. Let's see. But prepare for the worst.
They should add this line to any statement about the traitor president.
The risk would be easy to handle, but there is none for them.
Lavrov is a joke!!!
Álcool or Asperger Síndrome?
Nie wieder darf diese Diskussion aufkommen!
Unity scares them. The opposite is what they aim for.
Unfortunately some actions by this US leadership make things easy for the russians... For now...
Trump may seem pro ru, he is also very volatile.
Yet it was DONALD TRUMP who, in his first term of office, WARNED Europe and especially Germany against becoming too dependent on Russia through Nord Stream."
https://bsky.app/profile/wiesel.graphics/post/3llbma4hilv2p
Typical as well.
These world bullies make decisions that benefit them & then try to enforce these decisions on the world. They cry loudly & bring out the victim card if refused, in addition to bullying and bribes.
🇺🇸 current trump regime is not on team 🇺🇸 & has done many things to weaken the 🇺🇸 military, economy & the will and health of 🇺🇸 people. 🇺🇸 has abandoned allies preferring to ally w/🇷🇺.
🇺🇸 acts on behalf of 🇷🇺 & for 🇷🇺's benefit.
And the U.S. lowered expectations for LNG Sales to Europe under the Biden Administration, he even stopped exports
The U.S. will pressure Germany to do so
And then Germany will buy Russian Gas again, CDU wants to build 30 Gas Plants, that are hydrogen ready, but where is Hydrogen to be seen
This is the classic russian approach of "master nation" us, ru and "puppet nation" eu, ukraine, central asian republics etc.
F* off