Jeremy Renner was run over by a seven-ton snowplow a little over two years ago. In a new memoir, he wrote that as he lay near death, he experienced something extraordinary.
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The way some of you are mocking Jeremy Renner for sharing a near-death spiritual experience says a lot, and not in a good way. It’s not just about him, it reveals a deeper contempt from certain parts for belief itself, especially anything religious. 1/5
He didn’t tell you to convert. He didn’t push an agenda. He shared something deeply personal, probably life-changing, and your instinct was to sneer, to dismiss it as a hallucination, or worse, a lie, as if faith or awe is something beneath you? 2/5
But the thing is, most of the world believes in something. Faith isn’t fringe, it’s normal. The US was founded on the principle of religious freedom. Not freedom from religion. When the dominant cultural voices treat belief with contempt, they alienate vast swaths of the population. 3/5
That’s a big part of why we’re seeing the political shifts we are. The return of Trump isn’t just about red versus blue, it’s a backlash. Many just see him as an instrument against people that they feel look down on their values, including their faith. 4/5
Until we recognise that belief is not a flaw but a core part of human identity for billions, this divide will keep growing. Dismissing people’s spiritual experiences isn’t enlightenment, it’s hubris. And it’s pushing people further apart. 5/5
There is no evidence of any god. None. Zero. Just because you think something is good, doesn't make it true. Many of us are sick and tired of the world being run by a bunch of people that reject logic and reason for embracing the irrational. Religion is a net negative for the world and always was.
Then religious people should stop pushing THEIR beliefs on others. So many religions teach that only THEIR religion is correct and non believers are bad and should be shunned, killed or are going to hell/ non-redemption. You think those attitudes to others aren’t harmful?
I agree with you, but we have ignorance.
I believe in the higher power.
My experiences lead me to this.
Others won't learn, when they're NOT ready and will act like a fuckin' dumbass fool until they least expect.
The return of Trump is not backlash. It’s stupidity.
Religion flourishes in stupid populations. The most educated people are also the kindest people - and they didn’t vote for Trump. We need more education and less religion.
He got a glimpse of the freedom of the soul. Happens to people who have near-death experiences. There's a peace & a yearning to go with the light. And you never forget that moment.
Each and every single time that you try to force science into religion (and vice-versa) the result is a craptacular piece of shit that falls pathetically short on either subject matter.
I find “poorly-understood brain phenomena that causes you to trip out” a whole lot more plausible than “staring through a crack in the doorway to the afterlife.” I get that many want to/do believe there’s an afterlife. Heck, I like the idea too. I just find the lack of evidence compelling enough.
Your use of the word evidence suggests you have no problem applying scientific principles.
I’m comfortable with “this is it” as it makes what we get precious. I want to treat others well b/c I don’t want to waste my time with hate or anger. I want to leave the world better for having had me.
That's the whole point: you can't apply scientific principles to spirituality, just like you can't apply spirituality principles to science. Beliefs != Facts.
And "this not being it" doesn't make "this" any less precious or worthy to cultivate for future generations. Damocles' swords aren't needed.
Furthering my example: if there is such a thing as an afterlife, I would endeavor to reach it having done my best, so I would have no regrets when my time comes. However, if there isn't, my goal wouldn't change.
Its existence (or lack thereof) is not a driver for my current actions.
Quite a cavalcade of sneering responses here from people who obviously didn't read the article to see if, for instance, there was any discussion of near-death experiences being something other than strictly factual occurrences
Then why do some people recall seeing things while unconscious that they wouldn’t be able to see otherwise such as seeing a nurse drop a pen? Recalling words that their family members have said while in the waiting room? Is that caused by a chemical reaction in the brain too?
Your senses still work, your ears can hear things and your brain can remember it. You can hear a pen drop and your brain knows what that looks it, so it can create the visual in your mind
So it creates the visual of the specific nurse that dropped the pen? It creates the visual of what family members are doing and saying in the waiting room many feet away outside of the room? Out of earshot and out of sight out of mind? How is that?
No, not a single person has ever had ESP powers in a coma. They only know what's immediately nearby them. The brain is resilient, when some senses are denied it enhances the other. If you hear your family talking in the next room, it's not hard for you been to guess what they're doing
Did I say it was the next room? Did I say it was only hearing? I’m talking about them being down stairs in the waiting room and them being able to confirm that what I saw and heard actually happened.
Look you don’t really know period you can have your own opinion but do not put people down who have had the experience they are the ones who have lived through it not you.
It's a life changing experience, but depends on one's stage in life, too. Children won't have the same experiences as someone married with children, etc. At least, the flashbacks will differ.:)
But, if someone's never had the experience, it's easy to mock someone else's experience.
That's nothing, I was run over by a 14 ton garbage truck just six months ago. As I lay dying, Christ appeared, and started quizzing me about the hit 80s tv show 'Knight Rider'. I failed the quiz and the Son of God told me it wasn't my time yet.
That's because you forgot that the Emmy-winning actor from "Saint Elsewhere," William Daniels, was the voice of KITT. Otherwise, you'd be deflowering angels while sipping bottomless gin-and-tonics.
You know what everyone meant. The writer isn't qualified to comment on the topic so she both-sides settled science. She gives enough hereafter slop for the believers(Renner included) to latch onto and feel good about their delusion. Typical NYT.
Isn't being in new York state being near NYC? Isn't being in USA being near NYC? Isnt being on earth near NYC? Just may e there are varying degrees of perspective. Some people view everything as balck and white, nothing else.
To everyone commenting here, this would be no big deal if we weren’t in the political mess we are right now because everyone is angry. I get it you are upset and livid with where America is right now. Take a deep breath and focus on what’s important.
Humility in our mortality. It’s something people in our current government need to experience. Power. Money. Fame. Those are all just entrapments. Serve, instead. And I’m not religious.
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I believe in the higher power.
My experiences lead me to this.
Others won't learn, when they're NOT ready and will act like a fuckin' dumbass fool until they least expect.
Religion flourishes in stupid populations. The most educated people are also the kindest people - and they didn’t vote for Trump. We need more education and less religion.
Incidentally, as a Buddhist, I find the "religious freedom" talk a bit hollow since it applies 99.9% to Christians.
I have more sympathy for the cynics, and I don't judge them for it.
I wanna believe in an afterlife because thinking this is all we get makes me afraid. I'm ready to admit there's no evidence to back it up.
I have experienced some heavy shit though, and thus take it as a possibility.
I would never, EVER, dare to shoehorn science into this, though.
Thinking there is something after this is an easy way to keep people complacent until they die, just like the machine wants.
https://bsky.app/profile/phroodloops.bsky.social/post/3loanntyey222
I’m comfortable with “this is it” as it makes what we get precious. I want to treat others well b/c I don’t want to waste my time with hate or anger. I want to leave the world better for having had me.
And "this not being it" doesn't make "this" any less precious or worthy to cultivate for future generations. Damocles' swords aren't needed.
Its existence (or lack thereof) is not a driver for my current actions.
Set up an entire hospital and physical therapy in your home with 24/7 quality care. It's amazing what you can recover from.
I'm glad he recovered. I like him but I don't think there is anything amazing about his recovery. It's money.
I saw him interviewed recently. It was sincere.
Anyone who experiences near death knows, it's a life-changing experience.
As Renner said in the interview, in the end, the last thing you think about, is love.
But, if someone's never had the experience, it's easy to mock someone else's experience.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/jeremy-renner-just-responded-ex-203833593.html?guccounter=1
Some humans do the same but with gods.
https://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_my_stroke_of_insight
Isn't birth a near death thing?
Isn't life, a near death thing?
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and then your probably hallucinating from the overwhelming rush of hormones and whatever chemicals your body releases during a severe injury
nerves have limits
/antitheist
#myths