Last fall Niall Ferguson chastised me on Xitter for suggesting Trump could turn fascist, asserting, "fascism was all about state control of the economy and militarisation in preparation for war, pretty much the opposite of Trump's philosophy." Just thinking about that for no reason whatsoever. - ThreadSky

dandrezner.bsky.social • 1 day ago

Last fall Niall Ferguson chastised me on Xitter for suggesting Trump could turn fascist, asserting, "fascism was all about state control of the economy and militarisation in preparation for war, pretty much the opposite of Trump's philosophy."

Just thinking about that for no reason whatsoever.

Reposted from Tim O’Brien

Noted legal scholar Stephen Miller says Trump’s White House is considering suspending habeas corpus because the US is “under invasion.” m.youtube.com/watch?v=evIs...

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yourcanadiangf.bsky.social•1 day ago

You should sue him for lying to you.

terrymalloy.bsky.social•1 day ago

We don’t need no stinking Reichstag fire

arjm5184.bsky.social•1 day ago

Plus what’s he going on about state control when we can see the whole corporatist idea that marked fascism being carried out right now?

slayerofunicorns.bsky.social•1 day ago

Any time they say "invasion", the reporter should follow-up with "What nation is invading us?"

Every single time.

droseph.bsky.social•1 day ago

Classic Niall

platonious.bsky.social•1 day ago

"Trump's Philosophy"

Ha,ha

Is as simple as a 3 year old: I want.

msoares.bsky.social•1 day ago

What's Ferguson saying these days?

timgwynnjones.bsky.social•1 day ago

https://open.substack.com/pub/twentyfourtwo/p/de-niall?r=1qm79u&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

jlrmarin.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ferguson doesn't know his ass from his mouth. The guy who wrote whole books on subjects he didn't understand (House of Rothschild) or ignored the previous body of research and literature when writing it (Empire) doesn't have any business criticizing actual scholars for their observations on politics

rogerailes.bsky.social•1 day ago

Fuck Niall Ferguson with the Hoover Institution sideways.

lilygreen.bsky.social•1 day ago

and what happened to all the Muslims he was afraid of 8 years ago? these are just screams and flashing lights to deflect you.

brennick.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ferguson has been wrong about everything. A spineless lickspittle.

shower-cat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sure let’s just end a legal principle that has been the fundamental building block of the Anglo-English justice system for oh…[checks watch]…the last 800 years.

juditty.bsky.social•1 day ago

Why are so many people reluctant to recognise fascism when it is staring them in the face? Likewise genocide. Do they think it will just go away if they don’t call it by its name?

shadenightingale.bsky.social•1 day ago

Because then they might have to (gasp!) actually do something about it.

cheriegrant.bsky.social•20 hours ago

THIS exactly. They’ve lived their entire priviledged lives being very comfortable talking about a lot of things and letting OTHER people DO those things. They never had to fight for their comfortable lives so they refuse to even fight for their freedom.

chadblack.bsky.social•1 day ago

More likely because they want to continue disavowing their support for it.

bertthekitten.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump can’t be a fascist because I made up my own definition of fascism.

shawnp55.bsky.social•11 hours ago

We are under invasion by right wing white fascists. When this administration implodes we need to see some serious prosecutions.

miak06.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson is a complete and total hack
I remember a CNBC interview from last summer where he openly stated that he felt that Trump was not a threat to democracy…

But then that’s the same Ferguson who also suggested that Badenoch would be the answer to the UK’s prayers

The guy is a total a**

patricculus.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson is the historian’s equivalent of Bill Ackman.

nukidz13.bsky.social•1 day ago

Invaded where dumbass??Not at the border.You jackasses have said there is nobody coming across the border and all data says the border has basically been shut down.So just where is this invasion happening?

neeeceee.bsky.social•1 day ago

😳😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

fermat15.bsky.social•1 day ago

Stephen Miller can go fuck himself.

I can’t believe suspension could possibly happen. But if it does, game on. Whole new ballgame.

catman6.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sounds like 1933 when the Nazis revoked citizenship from Jews and political opponents to begin the Final Solution--Miller is firing on all cylinders now

mmister.com•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson totally debased himself. Morally weak quisling.

braak.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson one of the most consistently stupid Smart Guys I've ever seen

seanmac31.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall, working through his cognitive dissonance: "Something something Nixonian something something."

jstehlin.bsky.social•1 day ago

[pointing to Niall Ferguson] “well there’s your problem”

louknightsmccudden.bsky.social•1 day ago

Interesting defence, "no, he's not like the 20th century fascists, he has a totally different economic policy." Right, phew, I guess we can all relax then, because the economic policies are definitely the bit everyone is most disgusted by.

calemiller.bsky.social•1 day ago

But he said it in a posh English accent, so...

vee40below0.bsky.social•1 day ago

Preparation for war, you say? Hmmmmm..... Seems kind of Trumpy to me, Niall.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-greenland-military-force-threat-b2745130.html

quantumvino.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump’s philosophy has nothing to do with anything Niall said. His philosophy is “do whatever is best for me.” If that means being a fascist, then be a fascist. How are there still people that don’t understand trump?

mmorgenschoen.bsky.social•1 day ago

"philosophy" is a slightly oversized word for the shit swirling in trump's skull

strangernalps.bsky.social•1 day ago

Making Niall Ferguson the face of ‘academia’ for an entire generation of libertarian nut-jobs was brilliant, in retrospect. Of course this nonsense is unnecessary!

crusaderproject.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yeah, but that came from Niall Ferguson, so who really cares?

robertmockingbird.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson is Douglas Murray lite.
Douglas Murray is Stephen Miller lite.

robertmockingbird.bsky.social•1 day ago

Lex Fridman wishes he was Niall lite.
Joe Rogan is a useful tool.
Tim Pool worked for the Russians.
Jordan Peterson is a junkie fool.

It’s the Malevolent Seven (trademark).
Nazi-esque, Russia-sympathizing. Goons for hire. Gestapo Cosplayers.
Propaganda Dealers.

(non-controversial statements ^^)

paul.ofthenorth.ca•1 day ago

Technically speaking, Donald couldn't turn fascist. He was already there.

awkwardleftycj.bsky.social•1 day ago

Feels like he was missing the central piece of what fascism is (palingenetic ultranationalism) - you know, the thing that makes it *fascist* - but since he was also wrong about the rest of it I guess that makes him consistent?

tomhjhill.bsky.social•1 day ago

He’s been saying the “Red Guards” are the real threat to liberty in America for about a decade. Yet while I’ve seen lefties proposing healthcare through higher taxation, I haven’t seen any proposing camps. These guys think the rich paying their share is some sort of crime.

richardparkin.bsky.social•1 day ago

piss poor grasp of fascism from Ferguson there

huevos-ranchero.bsky.social•1 day ago

Shockingly awful take tbh

jrcruz0822.bsky.social•12 hours ago

evaneisenberg.bsky.social•1 day ago

There is another famous jerk who insisted that it was too early to call him fascist in 2016 but now the shoe fits but crying wolf back then somehow backfired. Ok whatever

gendergoblinhelen.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Tom Nichols is famous?

ktfalvey.bsky.social•1 day ago

Most of what Ferguson says is pretty much the opposite of the truth.

ohcanadienne.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Stephen Miller is a known psychopath. He has a microphone now, but he’ll have a prison cell later.

jmdean946.bsky.social•1 day ago

Except, the United States is not under invasion! Lying Trump and Republicans!

norcalgids.bsky.social•1 day ago

Believe me he's a trittbeettfahrer.

zaprowsdower.bsky.social•1 day ago

Well, you can always take solace in the fact that Niall Ferguson is fucking moron

arjanstruik.bsky.social•1 day ago

No, Niall Ferguson is not a moron. And that’s what makes people like him so dangerous.

zaprowsdower.bsky.social•1 day ago

I have to disagree a little. I know his credentials are impressive, but beyond that he always seemed to me to be a court intellectual willing to legitimize the historical revisionism of the powerful. MAYBE you could invert that and say his revisionism is 'converting' the powerful to his viewpoint

arjanstruik.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think, big picture, we agree. But I might be biased, because his wife was, as a refugee, welcomed here in the Netherlands, because of liberal and tolerant policies. But - typical drawbridge mentality - she the became rightwing and intolerant.

zaprowsdower.bsky.social•1 day ago

Oh my God I forgot who he married. Good Lord

smullins3000.bsky.social•1 day ago

Fucking ladder pullers. There's a circle of hell made especially for them.

zaprowsdower.bsky.social•1 day ago

But at a certain point who cares, there's nothing about what he's doing that's unique to him, or couldn't be done by a bunch of other shitheads on a moments notice

jockhigh.bsky.social•1 day ago

Well said, that's exactly what he does. It's both pitiful and terrifying.

thenoteheleft.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ferguson is a fascist apologist, so there's that.

haveyouanywool.bsky.social•1 day ago

The “Trump administration” is actively looking at suspending habeas corpus, or Stephen Miller is actively looking at suspending habeas corpus? Two very different things, one constitutional (if the conditions are met, which are not met now), and one completely extra-legal (meaning not lawful at all).

bigalincal.bsky.social•1 day ago

So, under that definition, Stalin was a fascist. Maybe he was. My two bit definition is fascism is when a malignant narcissistic socio/psychopath somehow gains power. They are not operating on some political theory, just ego, power, and absence of empathy or morals.

princetonyimby.bsky.social•1 day ago

'Barbie' movie-a$$ quote from Niall Ferguson there

fcgermelshausen.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ferguson has been a fascism enabler since the year dot. That's specifically why he moved to the US.

kevinmkruse.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson was wrong?!

3fecta.bsky.social•1 day ago

On the internet?

judah-grunstein.bsky.social•1 day ago

The coveted "Chastised by Niall Ferguson" trophy!

davekearnjr.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson… wrong???

mfreeman.bsky.social•1 day ago

Does the Woke Marxist Pope wear a funny hat?

smullins3000.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think it may surprise you to learn that Niall Ferguson is a bit of a narcissistic dumbass. Shocking, I know.

johnbrownbread.bsky.social•1 day ago

It’s debatable but I don’t even think thats the best characterization of fascism. But even if its, you’re still correct.

minnesotanational.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yeah, fascism by it's very nature has to be very different in different nations because it looks to appeal to different national personas.

cerejo.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is the worst characterization possible, shallow as water puddle after a summer rain. But it's very useful for a certain part of the political spectrum, so...

johnbrownbread.bsky.social•1 day ago

In case anyone is wondering, the definition used in comparative fascist studies is “palingentic ultranationalism”. A rebirth of the ultranation. With the ultranation being the nation seen as a literal living organism that is sick and dying and needs to be purged of the infestation of undesirables.

johnbrownbread.bsky.social•1 day ago

That’s from Roger Griffin’s “The Nature of Fascism” and “Fascism: Key Concepts in Political Theory”.

jakwash.bsky.social•1 day ago

We are under invasion, but not by who he thinks.

kid-rio.bsky.social•1 day ago

Niall Ferguson is an unreconstructed Mosley-ite and always has been.

michellelynk.bsky.social•1 day ago

Anyone else see “Xitter” and read it as “shitter”? 🤔

rabagast.bsky.social•1 day ago

that's how it's pronounced, yes.

michellelynk.bsky.social•1 day ago

I had no idea! 😂🫣

badguitarist.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sorry but I think you mean Fiall Nerguson.

spasianninja.bsky.social•1 day ago

Not too long ago I was talking a teacher colleague about how Trump is fascist and his response was that Trump didn't start any wars, and I was like "starting wars isn't part of the definition of fascism though."

spasianninja.bsky.social•1 day ago

Like, was Hitler only a fascist after August 1939?

spasianninja.bsky.social•1 day ago

Particularly disappointing that this teacher teaches the same course I do in which we have a unit on the interwar period.

marithlizard.bsky.social•1 day ago

I know it wouldn't help, but I keep wanting to find all the people who got angry at me on social media last fall because how _dare_ I tell them they need to vote, and scream "ARE YOU HAPPY NOW".

rhymeswithright.bsky.social•1 day ago

But Trump's tariff policy literally is all about state control of the economy -- he wants to dictate what we can have and where we can get it from. And tell me that his big military parade is not all about militarism.