Yes, never question anything from the medical or pharmaceutical industries.
Especially not the research that always favors them and which is signed off on by the politicians who stand to profit from their products along with their Billionaire CEO's.
Provaxxers beg for authoritarian social constructs, pretend corporate elixirs are good for people, and are willing to sacrifice some for many. That being said, microbiology is a genuine thing. Most antivaxxers have never even seen a diatom move around.
Those vaccines you listed took years to develop because at that time, there was respect for human life and they didn't want to harm human lives. The covid shots toox 6 months to develop and in less than a year, human trials had started. The only effective thing here is their disdain for human life.
If you look at the actual hours invested by a multitude of medical professionals the time spent to develop Covid vaccines is equivalent to other vaccines. No they did not skip testing either.
Studied in theory, yes. but they were never put into practice until covid. And then they were proven dangerous to human health.
Yet, you still defend them. And you call ME uneducated?
Yahhh I’m sure , because distance means you couldn’t care less.
You claim not to be a Trump guy but you’re glad he won. Yet he’s the one who initiated Project Warpspeed and got those vaccines out fast…it’s weird you have no issue with that whatsoever 🤷♀️
Not here, he didn't. Here, it was the left who forced us to get the jabs.
Also, if I remember correctly, YOUR leftist party moaned about "trump's vaccines" right until they won the election, and then, instead of rejecting the very thing they were moaning about, pushed them even harder. So... what?
The second picture might be labeled "Mass Negligent Homicide". Unfortunately none of our prosecutors or grand juries seem to have gotten around to that.
All the kids that lived after vaccines started. Go to an old cemetery and see before the mid fifties, how many children’s graves there are. Most kids didn’t die from those things anymore. Influenza, smallpox, diphtheria, scarlet fever and more could wipe out all the children. Go look at those facts
No it's not and that shouldn't matter here. Measles can lead to complications in health which can and has led to death. Vaccines prevent this. You asked for evidence and I gave you evidence. Now unless you were making a big show of it and don't actually care, I suggest we end this here.
Polio. Hundreds of thousands of cases worldwide in the 40's and 50's to virtually none by the 80's. The richer countries dropped to almost none in the 60's and 70's. Measles, smallpox same result because of vaccines.
Anti vaxers are more educated on these issues than pro vaxers, are you aware of the dangerous side effects involved? Are you aware of the fact that certain diseases like chicken pox are important to contract early because adults can die if they catch it?
I don’t think anti Vaxers are more educated than virologists who completed their phd and post doc fellowships I just don’t believe they also if u vaxed against chx pox ur vaxed against shingles same virus and they have a booster for older peeps
"it is about culturally arguing that human life cannot be a monad closed in on itself, but is made to be together. And that the condition of being together is, at this dramatic juncture, that of vaccination.
It’s less that online research is invalid and more that it’s people that aren’t looking to understand but looking for something that enforces their pre-existing beliefs on a topic. They’re not consuming research, they’re consuming media content that didn’t have to pass any review processes.
Hey I was only pointing out that the analogy is actually solid. If you're going to compare legitimate lab work with flaky YouTube "research", expect to be called out for bad faith argumentation.
You know exactly what is being said with this post. I won't resort to snark, but others will.
It isn't solid. The vaccine, his screenshot, and cat videos don't connect with veterinarian. Nothing in the original meme or his screenshot refer to anything veterinarian, not even implied. Veterinarians work with SO MANY SPECIES.
This is really dismissive. But, get where you are coming from. Lets be honest, trumpers don't get nearly as far as what you described and to be fair many of us cross reference, not just go with it.
Now the question.... Which one takes some thinking to make something that does what it's meant? And which one requires a text "really I didn't know that", then whew, all done?
Pretty much. Reminds me of when I was working on comms for the the AstraZeneca vaccine trials and an anti-vaxxer (former) friend told me “you’re welcome to your perspective but I’ve done the research.” She owns a bowling alley in Brainerd.
Thank God we're Democrats and don't believe this way. We love science I love science. I want more women to be professors in science more women teaching college. We need strong leadership the battle against these fucking guys.
So true lmao. "I started reading well after injecting street drugs stepped on 3-4 times before I got it" probably how he managed to read that fake "Vaccines cause autism" study.
It can still be released, Monkey Pox is in the same family. Note I say family which means there is more from where that came from. You are partially right, there are no known cases, but, it still exists.
Make sure you cross reference. That was his point. Everyone sees a story and repeats it. While most of us have enough in our brains to know what you are saying is true. Double checking is a good thing. Him saying all is going a little too far given the Internet can be a tool. Not just consumerism.
I usually do. Especially, being a retired RN. For some reason, today I made two errors. That’s what I get for doing this while trying to work. I do not just take someone’s word for anything, especially these days. MY point is; get vaccinated. Even if eradicated, they can come back. So, there’s that.
The idea that vaccines don’t work has been debunked over and over. As lay people we need to trust the science. They are preventing mortality, not creating it!
"Ah, cognitive dissonance at its finest—like someone swearing water’s the perfect car lube, destroying engine after engine, and proudly calling it a win. Truly, the dedication is unmatched."
Overlay the autism rates and the inoculation regime rate statistics, see the true numbers instead.
(And don’t come yanking with the idiotic phrase “correlation does not mean causation”, every trained chimpanzee knows that, it is no longer a mere correlation.)
Funny. Thanks for that. That's meant to be a conservative, Republican doing her own research in the lower panel? Sounds about right based on what I've heard about their various theories.
Horse dewormer, horse makes all the difference cause horse worms ate jfk jrs brain and have the same reproductive cycle as viruses… I can’t even continue in a satirical fashion I sound so stupid
A lot of them are foreign entities here simply to sew discord. Whatever brings you joy. Play with them if you want, but you’re giving them a reason to stay.
If you're not sure, click on their profile. Is the background image that picture of Trump fist pumping the air after "surviving" his "assassination attempt"? It's your greenlight to block city.
I know some anti vaccers. They have the luxury of being that because everyone arounf them is vacinated and acts like a buffer zone. They proudly crow about not getting sick thinking it is something that they are doing.
Funny, where I live, a population of about 7k, only 20% are “vaccinated”. We have a less than average infection rate. Weird, eh. Yes, I’m not part of the 20%.
Can you line up and get one of these shots most people when they talk about anti-vaccination they're really talking about COVID. I got one and now I only got 20% heart failure basically waiting to pass away so I won't recommend the covid shot to nobody now the other vaccinations they work
I am concerned with, measles, chicken pox, whooping cough and polio coming back. Most adults are ok because we were the last generation that those shots were mandated to have done. it is the kids that we will have to watch die.
first look at bluesky and it already sucks, i was hoping it was different from elon muskys haven and had cool stuff to check out but it just seems to me its another plebbit leftie echochamber
Der....uhh...da bloo scyyy ess noo funn an ess nuh Kool or nuthin. Ess jus a ting wit librul peepl an I hat da librul peepl suh ima gunna say dat too da librul peepl.
ALL I SEE IS A GOOD OL AMERICAN WOMEN (not a patriot) DOIN A FACT CHECK RHE RIGHT WAY AND NOT THIS FAKE NEWS CRAP. I CANT SEE POLIO SO NO WAY ITS REAL. THESE LIBS HAVE NO COMMON SENSE! EVEN IF IT IS REAL, IL TAKE ANOTHER OURBREAK OF POLIO AS LONG AS WE CRUSH BUREAUCRACY, AND REPLACE WITH AUTOCRACY
I personally take 2 lines of horse dewormer each morning helps with the sinuses, and bleach let me tell u it in the 2 days I started drinking it lost 31 pounds f$&@ ozempic
You might fined this paper interesting. I found it doing my own research on the internet.
Odd that Ivermectin (along with everything else) was never allowed to be used off label. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844024036788
Not a US study. The US govt discouraged such studies. Pfizer is a US company.
So in a world where ivermectin was never really used and not sold by conmen to you to buy, they probably wouldn't even have done that research only to find it helps SLIGHTLY.
The major problem I have is not Ivermectin. It may/may not work. What is not possible to overlook is that drug cocktail research was not allowed in the USA. All the trials of drug cocktails for Covid, that I can find, were carried out in foreign countries. This is a crime against humanity.
Not a crime against humanity and research was probably stopped because Trump was still debating whether he wanted his people to wear mask or to not wear mask not to mention all the other drama taking place during that time.
You might like to read the book, A Plague Upon Our House, by Scott Atlas.
Trump let Pence run the White House committee on Covid. Pence let Collins, Birx, and Fauci, the only three Docs on the committee, have the final word. He deferred to the experts.
I think what you’re noticing is the correlation between societies that prioritize clean drinking water & ALSO prioritize at least enough healthcare to include vaccines. Clean drinking water is important. Vaccines are important. Both can happen at the same time.
yes but what happened to the bubonic plague? I haven't gotten vaxxed for it in fact no one has and yet it isn't a issue....... wow cleanliness helped it go away who would thought.
Up to 200m people died in Europe and Africa; up to 60% of the population in Europe died at the height of it all. People still get the plague, but now we have antibiotics. I don’t really like people, but I’m not a fan of needing so many to die for somebody’s herd immunity fantasy.
Maybe I've missed part of the rationale as I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I don't think they're claiming God (or any other deity) is curing diseases. They just don't trust big Pharma or the government.
I'll pray for you means "good luck, I can't/won't help with that". People also say bless you after you sneeze. That's just religious people's response to most things, but they still go to the doctor when they're sick. They still take Advil or antibiotics when needed.
you gotta be careful. if you put a Muhammad caricature out, you'll get death threats from terrorists.
Charlie Hebdo must be remembered!
Religion must not stand above democracy!!!
Or they’re the loudest and most easily recognizable? No ones oppressing the most well known and powerful religion in the world lol
There was never a war on Christmas and no one stopped you from saying
Only so-called evangelical Christians and some hyper conservative Judaism sects push the antivax agenda. Let’s try not to legitimize those nutjobs by lumping them in with all religion
I was coming here to say that I encountered at least FIVE separate friends, during Covid, who told me, with straight faces, they were waiting to hear back from their PASTORS about getting the vaccine!! 👀🙈
Some were even at MY church 🤷♀️!!
People refuse to listen to people who have studied for years in their field but why listen to people who only read something on the internet. Go figure.
the problem with what is called "vaccine research" is that it's sterile, it does not predict or take into account the effects that it has individually.
It does, actually, if you actually read the multitude of research papers written on the subject. Yes, it starts in sterile laboratory environments to establish proof of concept, but by no means is that where it ends.
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Especially not the research that always favors them and which is signed off on by the politicians who stand to profit from their products along with their Billionaire CEO's.
》Scrolling through on social media
《Find a meme against vaccines
》 Take the highest job in the land
》Get rid of vaccines
Yet, you still defend them. And you call ME uneducated?
Nobody can have an honest conversation with you because you don’t even have the basic facts right.
So yes, you come across EXTREMELY uneducated. 🤷♀️
What do you want me to do instead, listen to some politician and take his word at face value? WOuld that be "educated"?
Trump approved it, pushed it out into the open world.
You claim not to be a Trump guy but you’re glad he won. Yet he’s the one who initiated Project Warpspeed and got those vaccines out fast…it’s weird you have no issue with that whatsoever 🤷♀️
Also, if I remember correctly, YOUR leftist party moaned about "trump's vaccines" right until they won the election, and then, instead of rejecting the very thing they were moaning about, pushed them even harder. So... what?
And yes I can read them.
Those who don’t believe in science and medicine need to stop clogging up the hospitals!
☮☮~"Just Fucking Sayin"~☮☮
Waiting for someone to write
“This makes you look like a liberal elite” 🙄
And no doubt proud of the fiction you peddle.
You know exactly what is being said with this post. I won't resort to snark, but others will.
Unfortunately many people don‘t realize it…
“ If you have constant diarrhea”…
or the (covid) anti vaxxers?
Most poor nations
Have few vaccinations
6 billion people never fly
The great cure for the flu,
1$ first month.
That don't want you to read their data..
🖕😆
However, fun drugs get a pass every time.
However, giving bugs a chance to infect increases the DNA it has to circumvent the vaccine: get the damn shot.
(Source: World Economic Forum.)
https://viroliegy.com/2024/04/15/blinded-by-pseudoscience/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043661818302883
https://journals.lww.com/neur/fulltext/2023/71010/post_vaccination_post_covid_immune_mediated.16.aspx
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0967586808001896
Took me a few seconds, but feast your inoculated eyes…
(And don’t come yanking with the idiotic phrase “correlation does not mean causation”, every trained chimpanzee knows that, it is no longer a mere correlation.)
https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes-2-year-investigation-issues-500-page-final-report-on-lessons-learned-and-the-path-forward/
Just followed you!
And you know what? You're welcome to return, but you won't because you don't want to, not because you can't.
*Not recommended for pathological lying
Odd that Ivermectin (along with everything else) was never allowed to be used off label.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844024036788
Not a US study. The US govt discouraged such studies. Pfizer is a US company.
Trump let Pence run the White House committee on Covid. Pence let Collins, Birx, and Fauci, the only three Docs on the committee, have the final word. He deferred to the experts.
Charlie Hebdo must be remembered!
Religion must not stand above democracy!!!
There was never a war on Christmas and no one stopped you from saying
Some were even at MY church 🤷♀️!!