What I can figure out about his stories,he would have been considered middle of the pack all the way. You had to be academically very good, as well at rugby and athletics, have strong debate and other leadership abilities to stand out in South Africa in the 70s and 80s as a white male to be noticed
Whose test methodology does he have in mind? I certainly think Elon's a dunce of a Dunning Kruger cautionary tale, but many IQ testing rubrics are considered flawed nowadays, and the ideology of outfits such as Mensa is questionable.
I used to score highly on those things growing up, but in effect they were definitely as much a metric of the effect itself of privilege as of anything else.
Since this is in my wheelhouse to a degree, I will say that IQ or "Q" is indicative of nothing much beyond cultural and general cognitive ability. As an objective tool for measuring intelligence, it has been largely dismissed in the neuroscience community for some time.
I beg to differ. I believe he's both. He doesn't need an IQ test to determine that he's an idiot too. All you need are eyes and ears. He's a fool and an idiot. He is also disgusting and a Nazi.
Never understood why people think intelligence correlates with the ability to make money. The latter takes hard work, focus, a good (but often simple) plan, a measure of luck, and determination. It requires no intelligence at all beyond the norm. Elon isn't stupid, but he's no smarter than you or me
Having a high IQ doesn’t make you a genius. Mozart was a genius. da Vinci was a genius. Musk is a nepo baby who was born into wealth and could afford to pay people to make him look like a genius.
I agree, he never invented or innovated anything! He bought it with his dad's money and leached off the American tax payer for billions!
Just like idiot tRump who claims he is a genius without a shred of proof, like college grades.🤣
These funds are investors like Fidelity, JP Morgan, no Tesla shares because he made loans on these shares, and he is a bad manager, X - 36 billion in 2 years, and given the Tesla share price .....
Musk does appear to be frightfully ignorant for someone who owns a bunch of multi-billion dollar companies. Of course, his "boss" is the Ignoramus King. What a team!
I don't understand why anybody thinks he's particularly smart. He inherited a lot of money, he invested in tech at lucky points, he's associated with computers and technology but he didn't create any of that stuff, he's just a guy that has money
Eh, I'm saying 120, +/- 5, on the WAIS, any version. Musk had a double major in econ and physics as an undergrad. He got admitted to a PhD program in physics at Stanford, which isn't particularly easy. But Musk's self-estimate of his IQ is obviously way too high.
Econ and physics. He got admitted to a Stanford PhD program in applied physics and material science. He only lasted a few days. Maybe it was his way to extend his student visa.
☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ *** THIS *** & let's not forget he has been accused of using a stand in to win a major video game claim.
So like his co-president who cheated to get admitted to Wharton - my money's on the MuskRat cheated to get into Stanford.
True. I'm just saying that I think he's OK-smart. Not earth-scorching smart like, say, Richard Feynman or Murray Gell-Mann in physics or Garry Kasparov in chess. (Kasparov is here, BTW. @garrykasparov.bsky.social)
Musk is not brilliant nor a genius. Never has been. Dude came out of nowhere wheeling and dealing Silicon Valley with his BS and the tech bros loved it. Then people noticed and started saying he was all powerful and he ate that up like a fat kid in cake.
Elon's tech lectures are hilarious if you're looking for real information. Same with Trump's business interviews of the past. Always transparent BS, desperately hiding lack of knowledge and genuine background in the field.
And then there’s the ideology of how IQ tests actually work and what they measure.
It doesn’t measure creativity, imagination, honour, love, persistence, work ethic, trust and or people’s ability to come from nothing to being rich. I’m not talking Elon, I’m talking anyone.
Personally I believe you are giving him too much credit. His actions, speech, and emotional responses actually would place him below 100. He has created zero. He does not have an imagination an important factor of intelligence.
That was conjured up by King Con and his administration. I have only heard from his dad that his teachers thought he was re_arded when he was a kid. Nothing about him gives Einstein.
A string of dumb ideas - not a flame thrower, solar shingles, unneeded fast charge station, declared charge plug standard that nobody uses, unnecessary fast chargers only for Tesla, home batteries that can’t pass a fire safety standard, Mars, hyperloop, and a tunnel to Europe under the Atlantic. duh
He's definitely not overly intelligent. Intelligent people wouldn't do the stupid things he routinely does.
I went to Twitter for a little while today and there were lots of people talking back to all the stupid Republicans. Why don't they just grow up? That would be great.
I know that 100 is considered the average. But university students from the top tier universities are generally said to have an avg 120 IQ. Which makes 110 exceptionally average.
I think Trump's is around a 75. Not kidding either. But he's extremely aggressive which has made him what he is. He's stupid enough to have no idea how profoundly stupid he is. One tidbit of evidence: He thinks Barron is a computer genius because he can turn on his laptop.
I've worked with some brilliant techies over my 25 years in the tech industry. Musk doesn't talk or act like any of them. I would never have hired an imbecile like him on any project. There's not 1 logical cell in his brain. I would've swore my team was pranking me if he even got an interview.
I was a journalist in high tech for 10+ years & interviewed many of the greats.
I agree with you 1,000,000%.
I think it's incredibly important to remember ...
Obviously. But when it comes to Musk and Trump there's a cohort of sycophants ready to defend their every new vile scheme by droning on about their supposedly vast intellect, 4d chess and intricate plans we are just too dumb to appreciate. Take away that genius and all you see is selfish bullies.
too true. however, saying Musk has a low IQ does not dent the the status in which his sycophants hold him. Nor does saying it make it true without some objective data. Remember anybody can say anything
there are more effective ways to deconstruct Musk. just haven't exactly found them yet🤔
Elon Musk is a BULLY.
He uses fear & threats to get what he wants.
His cars catch on fire.
His rockets blow-up after launch.
He wants to implant chips into human beings.
Its disgusting to hear several news hosts, reporters, and guests on all the news outlets repeatedly say, 'Musk may be the smartest scientist in the world, or he may have the highest IQ in history’. It doesn’t take a deep dive into his past to know, he’s only a fraudulent grifter! Trump’s bestie!
“Not TRUE! I know his IQ is really high! Because when he bends me over and has rough anal sex with me, he keeps telling me how his IQ is 300” , signed Trump the whiny bitch
I have a sister who has multiple degrees, but she does not have one lick of common sense. As she's gotten older, she's only gotten worse. I don't know how much longer she can live alone without assistance.
I've wondered about this. I think, like Trump, he's just an opportunist. He has benefitted by taking advantage of the intelligence of others. And that would be ok, except like Trump, he claims to be the one who's smart, and arrogantly tramples others on that basis.
Agreed. You nailed it. Utilizing other people’s intelligence is a sign of intelligence in and of itself, but when you act like you’re the smart one and give no credit where it’s due then it’s a problem.
I never thought he was anything more than a mediocre, bored, rich white guy with the emotional intelligence of a 13 year old boy.
It’s strange how people (especially in my family) think
wealthy people must be wicked smart, because they wouldn’t have money if they weren’t. They’re so easily impressed
Absolutely… ‘a case study in which Musk comes across not as a towering titan of industry blessing the federal government with his capacious talents, but rather as a fundamentally small man profoundly out of his depth.’ A perfect example of Dunning-Krueger effect IRL!
Everything about him shouts bullshitter. He bought into companies & used other people's ability. He got kicked out of PayPal for stupidity, he got kicked out of being Chairman of Tessla for stupidity & He's now destroying Twitter & Tessla due to stupidity. Yep, certainly no genius
I'm sure mine is half that, but I don't go around pretending I'm a genius. Well, yes I do go around pretending I'm a genius, but no one believes me. That's the difference. Or something.
Yep. Again, fabrication of reality is more common for personality disorders, which are really just untreated severe complex trauma. It makes sense he would want to escape reality. His life has sucked and continues to, due to patterns he seems quite unaware of.
We never needed an IQ test to arrive at this conclusion. The man can barely construct a proper sentence! Nothing that comes from his mouth is original.
Way too high. There’s sociopathic behavior where a “genius” would be aware of what they are doing to others and they simply have no means of empathy y and don’t care. Then there’s spoiled brat psychosis.. that’s this guy.
But Jack, The American average IQ is 92. The norm would be a hundred but at 110 he'd be 18 points above most. Which in reality would be 118. Yeah I know I just like to mess with numbers.
- PayPal was founded by Max Levchin.
- Telsa was founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning.
- SpaceX is successful thanks to the engineer Tom Mueller who developed the rockets.
Elon Musk is not a genius, he has never invented anything, just a financial predator.
I’ve read somewhere he experiences Asbergers Syndrome. Actively listen when he speaks. He stutters badly which distracts from him inability to explain anything.
Elon musk has never had any original idea.
He is not an inventor.
He’s just wealthy.
He has Asperger’s syndrome which gives him a unique ability to see things from other perspectives but now he can’t seem to communicate those ideas because of his hard drug use.
His brain is fried from club drugs.
Musk self diagnosed & used an outdated term of Aspergers because Aspergers itself is linked to eugenics. It shows his ideology. Because anyone on the spectrum uses the autism spectrum diagnosis even those who have the mild version of autism & have the ability to speak. He is an Edison not a Tesla.
While I hate Musk, I am not sure where the link to eugenics comes into play.
I’m diagnosed with Asperger’s.
They used to call us 'idiot savants,' which was hurtful.
They dropped the 'idiot' part.
Then they called us 'savants' for a while. For some reason, they changed it again to 'Asperger’s.'” 🤔
I think every neurodivergent person has the right to identify how feels best for them. For education purposes, you may wants to look up where Asperger's came from.
And, as a neurodivergent practitioner who does diagnose, Elon...has more symptoms of NPD than autism.
There are many other clinical reasons he could struggle to do that, including grandiosity. If you don't have the capacity for empathy because you distanced yourself from your own inner child...you lack the ability to be an empathetic listener. Which looks the same as not picking up on it.
100 to 110 is average intelligence. Most college educated people will hover around 118, right? So he's less intelligent than even other people who did pursue higher education. Dude is a narcissist, though, so it tracks that he vastly overstated his intelligence to feel superior.
Last time I took a test I was in the high 130s... As an autistic person myself, autism doesn't make someone smarter. It has given me the ability to learn this world at a remarkable rate, and the curse of knowledge is agony... Elon is afraid because he's not smart. He's not savvy. He's sociopathic
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An extremely lucky individual who basically kept winning blackjack hands while splitting 10s
One of the few benefits of a high IQ, card counting.
Not required though.
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Musk is a fool, not an idiot
Above all else he lies as he breathes
Imposter syndrome is common among many business leaders partly because they know much luck was involved in their success.
Some suffer, I think Musk went the other way and exploits the Dunning-Kruger effect.
“I I know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on earth.”
Also Elon:
"Panel gap tolerances shall be sub 10 microns."
10 micron is 0.01 mm or if you live in Myanmar, USA or Liberia, 0.0004 inches.
Just like idiot tRump who claims he is a genius without a shred of proof, like college grades.🤣
But he is a record holder on being the first and the only one on Earth to have lost $200 BILLION.
Actually a lot more. He steals or buys ideas from others and makes them his own so people will think he’s smarter than he actually is.
He’s an impostor. So how did this image get created? Same reason as Trump: because our media is the stupidest of all—completely gullible.
Honestly he seems kind of dumb
An engineer
A programmer
A genius on any level
That is all hype.
So like his co-president who cheated to get admitted to Wharton - my money's on the MuskRat cheated to get into Stanford.
Or do you think Trump wrote one and also defended it? Or at musk wrote one and defended it…?
Gaslighting the professors. Bullying them…. lol.
A-men!!!
A-men!!!!!
A-men!!!!!!!
Could. Not. Agree. With. You. More. If. I. Tried.
And here we are.
Pure evil exists.
It’s him
Plus, he’s suffering from Dementia.
And he’s a Psychopath.
It doesn’t measure creativity, imagination, honour, love, persistence, work ethic, trust and or people’s ability to come from nothing to being rich. I’m not talking Elon, I’m talking anyone.
And even the most brilliant people can do stupid things when on drugs.
I am, in fact, smarter than Elon.
Is there a °F -> °C like conversation to be applied?
Asking for ....ehm...Europe...
I personally think he's dumb af.
I went to Twitter for a little while today and there were lots of people talking back to all the stupid Republicans. Why don't they just grow up? That would be great.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
I agree with you 1,000,000%.
I think it's incredibly important to remember ...
The most educated people, with or w/o high IQs, can still be gigantic assholes
I mean, look at all the ivy leaguers in gov't who push planet-killing policies. Stupid. So. there's more to intelligence than IQ. way more
there are more effective ways to deconstruct Musk. just haven't exactly found them yet🤔
Musk is a very accomplished person, obviously
This issue is his intentional harm to others, or careless disregard of harm to others
Waiving a chainsaw around to symbolize your infliction of pain is evil
He uses fear & threats to get what he wants.
His cars catch on fire.
His rockets blow-up after launch.
He wants to implant chips into human beings.
I gagged on my tonsils.
Zero chance tRump busts 100.
I have no special insight - but I would bet a substantial amount of cash that tRump would be around 85.
Also - I conduct psych evals for a living so I have given hundreds, if not thousands, of IQ tests.
So relative to others his own age?
Sure if playing shuffleboard, but he's the POTUS.
So - go to an office bldg in NYC, pluck 100 degreed people at random, between the ages of 35-55 - he is bottom 5% I bet my house on it.
Speaking as a real person, I get your point and I think he is as dumb as a box of rocks.
It’s strange how people (especially in my family) think
wealthy people must be wicked smart, because they wouldn’t have money if they weren’t. They’re so easily impressed
"the poor person's image of a rich person"
Trump is a poor man’s idea of a rich man, a weak man’s idea of a strong man, and a stupid man’s idea of a smart man.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-iq-irrelevant-064400874.html
Shocker.
Musk was born into wealth. My understanding is he didn’t design Tesla. He invested in the business.
....trying to control his own brain
- Telsa was founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning.
- SpaceX is successful thanks to the engineer Tom Mueller who developed the rockets.
Elon Musk is not a genius, he has never invented anything, just a financial predator.
Musk stole the name in 2019.
Other than this theft of intellectual property there is no connection between the companies.
In ancient times the star cluster was used as a vision test. To see how many of them you can see.
He is not an inventor.
He’s just wealthy.
He has Asperger’s syndrome which gives him a unique ability to see things from other perspectives but now he can’t seem to communicate those ideas because of his hard drug use.
His brain is fried from club drugs.
I’m diagnosed with Asperger’s.
They used to call us 'idiot savants,' which was hurtful.
They dropped the 'idiot' part.
Then they called us 'savants' for a while. For some reason, they changed it again to 'Asperger’s.'” 🤔
And, as a neurodivergent practitioner who does diagnose, Elon...has more symptoms of NPD than autism.
He’s exploiting it.
Poor Tesla. 😔