the author of One Billion Americans, who believes that Democrats lost because they did not conduct a brutal immigration crackdown, was consistent and coherent - ThreadSky

theophite.bsky.social • 89 days ago

the author of One Billion Americans, who believes that Democrats lost because they did not conduct a brutal immigration crackdown, was consistent and coherent

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Yglesias has been pretty consistent and coherent

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willthomas-usa.bsky.social•88 days ago

This feels like an unfair characterization Yglesias’ opinion here—i.e. Biden was able to bring irregular crossings down without enacting a brutal immigration crackdown
https://www.slowboring.com/p/stricter-border-control-more-immigration

romancaturday.bsky.social•86 days ago

Consistent and coherent! https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/17/13626514/trump-systemic-corruption

jmwallach.bsky.social•89 days ago

He's a mark/Harvard grad.

davedette.bsky.social•89 days ago

Yggy and Klips in a qt fight is just an ouroboros of shit

algoresmilkymams.bsky.social•88 days ago

wooshkim.bsky.social•89 days ago

Going by the reviews I've read, the book isn't actually overly sanguine on immigration

jfx9.bsky.social•89 days ago

In fairness he is also happy to throw trans people under the bus also

profchildermass.bsky.social•89 days ago

If only the Dems had ignored the latino vote harder and tried harder to win over the conservatives....lol.

crispychickn.bsky.social•89 days ago

It’s not their fault Hispanics are assimilating like the Irish and Italian did.

algoresmilkymams.bsky.social•88 days ago

the romanists have always been a problem.

samusishere.bsky.social•89 days ago

The man who believes that any voter who doesn't support the GOP talking about immigration is political malpractice.

This man also went on a book tour for One Billion Americans immediately before the 2020 election (specifically targeting right-wing radio)

werrrp.bsky.social•89 days ago

almost makes you wonder if this graph's trajectory is all his fault

hancockb.bsky.social•89 days ago

It isn't inconsistent to believe that a) we SHOULD have hundreds of millions more Americans to increase wealth and American competitiveness and b) the American electorate is dumb and has soured on illegal immigration leading up to the election.

mourn-the-weenie.bsky.social•89 days ago

It is inconsistent to believe, though, that c) illegal immigrants should've been persecuted, for no reason other than to appease popular opinion, to retain the White House.

hancockb.bsky.social•89 days ago

It's not inconsistent at all and we are seeing the reason why it's not play out day by day! The theory is a little moderation in practice and/or rhetoric will peel off some voters and avert the disaster of the GOP winning and making things 10 times worse

emrosedeleon.bsky.social•89 days ago

^^^^^

If you really believe both that immigration is necessary to further and reinforce your way of life, and also that the voters in your country are pathologically opposed to immigration, you start thinking about how to do it over their objections, or to lie to them and hope they don't notice.

mourn-the-weenie.bsky.social•89 days ago

Both. You either believe in human rights or you don't.

hancockb.bsky.social•89 days ago

.... Is that not what we are talking about here? Tell the voters bullshit to win, so we can do the better policy in office.

Famously Obama was anti gay marriage in 2008. Once elected however, his administration laid the groundwork for legalization

leftliblucy.bsky.social•89 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/leftliblucy.bsky.social/post/3lhqtor4vfs27

ansellscow.bsky.social•89 days ago

all the “money printer goes brrrrr” meme dudes from 2021 are now reposting that Furman Foreign Affairs piece about how Biden’s econ policy was too stimulating 🙃

neilpostman.bsky.social•88 days ago

One Billion Americans is actually smart policy yet Midglasius doesn't get that you can't be a just win guy and a policy wonk guy.

neilpostman.bsky.social•88 days ago

I actually find Yglessias not terrible but horrendously empty because he doesn't have any actual beliefs. Somehow Nom Tichols and Kill Bristol became much better.

algoresmilkymams.bsky.social•88 days ago

now, nichols is still bad.
he's david french in fancier suits & with better pr.
kristol, like dan quayle (for whom he was chief of staff), has gotten better on core democracy issues.

tampalib.bsky.social•89 days ago

I belive that you can reconcile these things if you spend literally 60 seconds trying.

theophite.bsky.social•89 days ago

if you work in Democratic politics in Florida and have not yet committed seppuku, i don't respect you

tampalib.bsky.social•89 days ago

This is a bit everyone does on this site when they don't want to actually refute what I've said.

anchovymelee.bsky.social•89 days ago

WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE SAID, DUDE?

tampalib.bsky.social•89 days ago

I'm fully aware of the situation in Florida. I could go into the problems here in depth (and do with people who care), but this is just a gotcha to avoid responding to a different point you don't like.

lowrhoufo.bsky.social•89 days ago

You sound identical to a Jordan Peterson fan, and for extremely good reason

samusishere.bsky.social•89 days ago

Not really at all. Yglesias believes any activist discussing any political issue other than the economy or maybe abortion helps the GOP win elections.

He then spent the entire run up to the 2020 election promoting mass immigration to the United States.

scaredyfish.bsky.social•89 days ago

And you'd need more than just open borders to reach a billion, you'd need to actively pillage other countries of their people.

samusishere.bsky.social•89 days ago

The book is just a collection of Yglesias' Vox articles put together into a book with the "One billion" number being used for promotion. There's no real effort to show that getting to a billion Americans would be possible within a century or ever.

cassinidivision.bsky.social•89 days ago

It was a rip-off of the Doug Saunders book/idea Maximum Canada, about getting Canada's population to 100 million, something that source countries could actually sustain.

samusishere.bsky.social•89 days ago

The trick with Matty is that he doesn't believe anything he says, but that just makes him very annoying.

samusishere.bsky.social•89 days ago

Matty and most bloggers of the late 2000s were genuinely a poison that infected basically all of mainstream political journalism. Just nihilists who believed in nothing except maximizing click rate and then every site copied that exact approach.

makeitsnow.bsky.social•89 days ago

you can definitely get to the position that what matty thinks is good for america is bad for the democrats, but if that’s true, what use is matty?

tampalib.bsky.social•89 days ago

Like:

https://bsky.app/profile/tampalib.bsky.social/post/3lidmee2itc2v

eigengraulein.bsky.social•89 days ago

did you work on will stancil’s campaign too lmao

rickywlmsbong.bsky.social•89 days ago

no, don’t be silly, stancil's campaign was much better than florida dems can manage

redoubters.bsky.social•89 days ago

"These are my personal beliefs. I do not think they are politically popular, and in fact the political zeitgeist rewards literally the opposite. It doesn't mean I think I'm any less right, just I acknowledge it's unpopular" isn't *super* unreasonable

Basically my POV on open borders

rambleratx.bsky.social•89 days ago

Sure, except for the part where Yglesias then says "anyone associated with the left saying anything that could be unpopular is unforgivable"

redoubters.bsky.social•89 days ago

that says, it does require some sort of, you know, acknowledgement that you still believe this thing, you just recognize it's a losing stance to take

mikeyass.bsky.social•89 days ago

idk I think Matt Y was trying to do the political activism he prefers (writing books no swing-voter reads and getting paid for it) to try and shift the discussion _before_ the election starts

ianbobmorris.bsky.social•89 days ago

The only way we would realistically get to one billion Americans is throwing the gates wide open, letting everyone in and doing lots and lots of YIMBY stuff

smorc.bsky.social•89 days ago

yea, in the book Yglesias argues for massively expanded immigration

johnnybesad.bsky.social•89 days ago

I mean, at no point does he advocate letting nearly 550 million people in, which is the onky way you get even close to 1 billion Americans

faeelin.bsky.social•89 days ago

Matt is currently blaming Harris for donors being afraid of Trump retaliation because she warned he’d rule as an autocrat.

erinslick.bsky.social•88 days ago

If I’m choosing between him and klippenstein I’m choosing jumping off a bridge

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