My thing has always been, how does me wearing a mask because I have a compromised immune system, affect your life? As my granny used to say, "The Lord's Prayer should be, Lord, help me stay out of others' business. Amen".
It's just a prevention protocol to us humans not to get affected with the infection tho, so I don't really know why ppl has to be so rebel abt that simple mask in the public
I recently had a customer who is pro plague going on and on about how they're always getting sick since 2020, so the gov must be trying to make people ill. I was all "yeah, there's another covid variant doing the rounds"
"LOL No, covid doesn't exist. So what are they REALLY doing??"
When I was at middle school, I don't need to wear a mask since I'm special needs but I wear it because I believe students and teacher are going to give me weird looks if I don't. One main issues I deal with mask is that it fog up my glasses 🙄 I hope they ain't forcing us to wear it
Thats a lot of disinformation, on top of that 1918 was the Spanish flu, killed a lot of people and there was a mask mandate, if caught in public without a mask you were escorted to jail.
I will NEVER understand why some of my favorite liberal brothers and sisters EVER STOPPED wearing masks…..vile, weird societal pressure? Frustrating as hell.
Exactly it. The micro bullying wears you down and seeing sick people coughing and not wearing them makes you go, what's the point. Sad reality of stupid people
The utility of N95s is also conferred because many infectious diseases have a period where a person may have no noticeable symptoms and yet they are still contagious. If: all who could be vaccinated/boosted were to take that precaution, we all had proper hand hygiene, we could stay home when ill…
Hubby has COVID and tho I tested negative (why bother testing again, waste the tests and no one gives AF) so I’ve been masking at school and it’s just amazing how many kids ask me why I’m wearing it. I’ve not yet replied “Because I’m sick you dumbfucks.” Even tho I think it every time.
*also I stayed home one day but we don’t get subs so my para did my job for 1/3 of my salary. Principal couldn’t jump in, counselor couldn’t help, social worker MIA. So I guess I mask up and get thru it.
My grampa woulda said” “ Really? Life ain’t fair? Why don’t you try filling up one hand with Fair and the other with shit,and see which one fills up faster?”
literally my work, like if you try to insist people wear masks people are like “no I’m not going back to 2020 times” like BUDDY WE ARE STILL IN THOSE TIMES
It's a simple fact that good masks are highly protective, and that individuals can greatly reduce their chance of illness. (Though not eliminate it, so "is a choice" was a bit extreme.) And that society can now basically stop transmission; that _is_ a clear social choice.
At the individual level, obviously a lot depends on family members (small kids, recalcitrant partner) and whether you can eat meals safely, also on whether you fit test your respirator.
At a social level? We're choosing rampant illness despite being able to shut it down.
Perhaps. I can't remember if that was the main reason, but it definitely was a reason.
The point is that masking is good for uninfected people too, especially since selfish sick people all over this backward country refuse to actually protect others from their germs. Masking is a really good idea.
To be fair though, masks were never designed to keep you from getting sick, they were to keep you from getting other people sick in case you were infected but yet showed no signs of infection
Disposable respirators like KF94s and N95s were designed to keep you from getting sick. Also from breathing air pollution like wildfire smoke or car pollution.
They can still try. I can't tell you how many times I see "okay germ-dumpster, you go run around the store sneezing and touching everything while mommy gets her scratchers and smokes."
Yes! People who drag their sick kids around in public infuriates me. Not only do their kids not feel good and probably don’t want to be dragged out but they are pouring snot out of their nose and touching everything 🤦🏽♀️
It does not require you to be off for an entire week. You just have to be fever free for 24-48 hours or on antibiotics (bacterial infections) for 24 hours.
In severe cases I suppose it could which is where the vaccination would have helped by reducing the severity. Most employers would rather you stay home than infect the entire office and risk business shut downs.
The original COVID advice was to stay home for 10 days, which matches the science that you can remain infectious for 8+ days. The CDC shortened it to 5 days "to help the economy". And now almost no one stays home.
Normal viral precautions is 24-48 hours fever free and bacterial is 24 hours on antibiotics. COVID was different for some reason but that’s not the case anymore. People need to stay home until their fever breaks.
Covid 19 does not free float. The virus itself yes is small enough to pass through most masks HOWEVER the virus is encapsulated in mucous as it exits a persons body making it larger and less likely to pass through masks.
From the EPA: "These droplets carry the virus and transmit infection. Indoors, the very fine droplets and particles will continue to spread through the air in the room or space and can accumulate."
I keep getting you men that assume by covid 19 particles I mean the virus itself without encapsulation. That's a bad assumption especially as I mention directly the particles shrinking in size .
I.e. I'm still right, you didn't read my comment twice, and you didn't ask to clarify what i meant, you jumped at an arbitrary distinction and my point still stands . You embarrass yourself
Viruses do not free float in the air. They are always encapsulated in mucous of some sort of varying size. I am in no way saying masks with prevent 💯 of viruses penetration but it will prevent some. The smallest particle in a breathe is 0.1 microns and the COVID virus alone is 0.1 microns.
True… and good advice. I just feel like the issue really more is about the selfishness of the anti-maskers rather than their stupidity against their own interest.
We need to really keep telling the MAGATs that masks and vaccines are only crutches used by Sissy Lib Dems and will only lead to homosexual behavior and transexual tendencies ...
I think I've had it only once, but I know it's around and thus have taken measures to avoid getting it (or any other infection. It's nice not getting sick.)
I had fun in 2020 by out-conspiracy-ing rightoids. I'd tell them the mask was to hide my face from the Clinton/Soros/Obama facial recognition cameras. You could actually see their brain fall out of gear.
It also helps when cleaning dust. I don't get what they are complaining about. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't real. People can't see cancer, but it's real
They wouldn't wear a mask to save a child fighting cancers life but they had no problem wearing literal diapers and tape tampons to their head "in solidarity" of a child rapist🤦♀️ the "prolife" movement really just wants forced births so they can torture and murder, actual kids
I caught bacterial Pneumonia from wearung a face mask, and was advised by my GP tjat I should never wear a facemask fo the duration of a two hour train journey again. So there is that...
I don't do vaxes, but have worn masks with PM2.5. & use hand sanitizers & never once got covid or sick like others. I have heart failure so I CAN'T get sick. I wear them on buses & stores. Look Silly? Of course. Oh well, it is what it is in these trying times, & it sucks that I don't trust our air🤷♀️❤️
At this point I don't care. let them get sick and die. I'll step over their corpses and leave them for the crows. I hate the fact that I used to give a crap, but now I'm just "Ok whatever. You do you. I'll watch the birds peck out your eyeballs and walk away."
It’s one thing to cry about mandated use and “muh freedoms durr liberty” and another to mock people who choose or need to wear them. You don’t wanna wear it? Fine. But don’t stomp on MY freedom to choose to wear one either. Mind your business and I’ll mind mind. MAGAs are so intrusive and judgmental
bro I was masked up for months so i wouldn't miss thanksgiving and it worked, but I unmasked afterward and soon got sick. my racist antivax coworker was like "oh so the mask didn't work huh?" completely ignoring that I avoided getting sick until I went out without it XD
My co-worker/manager came to work hacking and sniffling on Monday. She’s been giving me the silent treatment because I put on my mask as soon as I realized she was ill, but bitch I haven’t been sick since 2020 because I masked & got the jabs & I’m not about to catch whatever Disney disease she has.
I've had coworkers coming in sick and honestly don't know why I haven't gotten sick yet. Luckily how I work in my department, I am mostly in my prep room and do my best STILL with the 6ft thing (and more).
Had a cashier no mask coughing up a dang lung on the front end. I really wanted to say
This reminds me of when thrump got covid. Media acted like he was near death (yes, he shrugged it off). By the looks of it, he probably had a snotty nose that he wouldn’t wipe so he was shoved off to the hospital so they’d do it for him
yet they put pads on their ears to show solidarity for a scratch that didn't even leave a scar, and wore literal diapers to show they supported a man who lost bowel control due to abuse of amphetimenes?
So I have a weak immune system and I’m physically disabled and get worse when I’m sick because autoimmune shit- my mom was like “you don’t need to wear a mask in our house it makes me uncomfortable because I can’t read your lips” so I end up getting sick and she’s just like “wow you get sick easily”
Wearing a mask is more about STOPPING the spread of disease, not preventing it personally. Most masks don't keep things from getting in, but they do a pretty job keeping germs from getting out. TLDR if you are sick or think you may be sick, wearing a mask in public is a very good idea!
I’m an infectious disease nurse and have worked in many outbreak situations and haven’t got sick thanks to my N95 mask. They absolutely stop disease transfer. I’ll be wearing one on a plane today in fact.
I really need to get a new n95 for this purpose and close nit populated places. I admit I stopped wearing mine (but have and will happily mask up when asked). I definitely stay home when Im sick. (I'm fortunate enough to have plenty of pto to cover my lost hours)
KN95s are actually good for both, I see most people though walking around with a flimsy little thing and think it'll keep germs out. I'd wear them if I get sick or know I'll be in an area where im likely to get sick.
Numerous studies have established that face masks protect the wearer as well as preventing the spread of disease. And, if you're going to keep being rude, do you mind if I join in?
I went to urgent care over the weekend (not respiratory) and a few visibly sick people were wearing them, which I suppose was for the benefit of everybody else. Thanks homies, get well soon.
I’m getting over worst case of bronchitis and the flu. I wore a mask to protect other people but only those people who aren’t afraid of masks. The rest of yall can stand in the wake of my cough.
Yuuuuup. Only been sick with covid once and then one more mystery bug since 2020 and I only got covid cause my ex had it and I knowingly took care of them understanding I'd get it. Masks work pretty well!
If we're talking about these standard single-use-masks they don't protect the bearer that well against viruses. It's main purpose is to protect the environment from being infected by you. But based off what people are saying here they tend to use them not to get infected themselves.
You're correct that baggy blues aren't good protection (mostly because they don't seal tightly), but many of us have upgraded to respirator-level masks years ago.
I see. I don't know much (nothing) about those. Here in Sweden we've done the opposite and downgraded = wearing face masks isn't really a thing at all any more.
In Europe they're called FFP2 (=US N95) or FFP3 (=US N99, but more common). I think they're allowed to have ear loops, while N95 is only headstrap or adhesive. Germany and Austria mandated using FFP2 for a while, but Europe now seems more anti-mask than the USA.
Switching from baggy blues to FFP3s basically shut down workplace infection in an English covid ward. This is probably the closest to a real powerful controlled experiment we'll ever get. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8635983/
You sound so certain of yourself though that I'm sure you're right. Additionally, I'm interested in any research you've found on the correlation between the high number of post-COVID cases in Sweden and the reduced use of face masks. Thank you in advance! 😀"
I wasn't aware that post-COVID issues were more significant in our country compared to others. Could you please share the source of this information so I can learn more? From what I've read, it seemed more prevalent in the U.S. than in Sweden.
There are a ton of hidden benefits to masking. My face gets less chapped in the winter, pollen allergies are less severe in the summer, and I don’t have to smile all the time.
That's because it's more effective if the sick people wear them to avoid spreading it. But yeah, if there was one thing I was hoping we'd learn as a society from COVID it was the need to stay home when sick. Employers who require people to come in while sick are pathological.
In my lines of work, its always the employees that push this, not the bosses. OT and looking good make people come in when they absolutely should not and then it just dominos
My idiot ex coworker believed she got a "very mild" (her words) allergic reaction in the injection site of the first dose of the COVID vax so she dramatically announced she would never get another one any chance she got.
Last time we talked, she'd had COVID *eight times*, with 2 hospitalizations.
I have gotten 4. The first one I got really sore and slept for 12 hours straight. Felt fine when I woke up. The last three I have felt nothing. Never got Covid.
East Peasy, other than the microchip, I am no worse off.
I've had the exact same experience to a tee! The 2 doses of the first vax knocked me out. I only got one booster due to life reasons, and got this latest one last month. Have never had COVID, even when caring for my son, who got one mild case 2 years ago. We're doing the right thing!
Don't suppose anyone ever explained to her the correlation between allergies and the immune system, and why getting a reaction is just proof it's working? 😅
The "reaction" was that it got red and a little swollen. The pharmacist explained to her that that happened to many people and was not, in fact, a histamine reaction, but she "wasn't taking any chances." Except a revolving door of COVID infections, I guess!
So what? This is now. N95s are cheap, readily available, and likely to keep you from getting sick. Refusal to wear them is a choice to keep getting sick.
This has fuckall to do with the masking conversation being had, and you're really trying to bend over backward to make it work.
The entire diaper thing was making fun of people who masked to protect others, underpinned by the belief that caring about others at all is something to be ridiculed.
Sure. But the third panel of the OP comic is about masks working to prevent sickness. If you wanna criticize it on artistic coherence grounds, find. I'm more concerned with reminding people that masks actually work, to reduce illness in the real world.
I physically can’t wear a mask “I’ve tried I’m not against it” however I have allergic reactions to any type of mask I wear
From cotton to polyester or even the doctors masks they have at the hospitals I can’t wear them.. wonder if I’d look weird walking around wearing a nuclear war mask 🥲
Only been sick twice since the pandemic started. Unfortunately both times were COVID and my spouse got moderate/severe long COVID. Masking isn’t perfect but it definitely helps a lot.
I don’t understand why some people won’t help others from the awful invisible “bug”. Wear a mask or stay home if you’re sick. Simple. We’ve gotten new strains of the flu bug every year since the beginning of time. It shouldn’t be such an issue, but now, it is
I don't wear a mask cause I know that I will gain some kind of immunity to the disease and no I won't sneeze out in the open nor cough but cough and sneeze inside my shirt or hoodie. Its my meta to never get sick again.
is it ironic that all those alpha male types cant wear a mask in a Walmart for 20 minutes but have no problem putting on their KKK masks to go marching in the streets to harass minorities?
KKK = Neonazi = proud boys = all white Christo-fascist supremacy groups that march with their nazi flags out in the open. Look up "Patriot Front" and do your own fuckin research on who hides their faces behind a mask.
Ouch, such a hostile reply. I truly don't understand where that came from. I was just saying not all people that has a different opinion from yours on face masks is a nazi. Have a good evening and try not being so angry, it's not good for you.
Here is today's example.
Oath Keepers all wear masks.
The meme here at the top is talking about wearing masks
but Oath Keepers dont want to wear what the meme calls
face diaper.
My F bombs in that case were adjective and not pronoun.
Not hostile to you, apologies if you offended.
Science shows evidence that masks help to dampen spread of respiratory disease, like COVID, and many of the same people who deny that science and publicly dare to flout their manhood in public also are the same guys who wear masks for trump read alt
I’m sure the world is going to have so much fun with the human-to-human transmissible version of the bird flu that is currently going on in the US, when it comes. I think it will be only fair when we all call it the American virus after RFK decides to do nothing to stop it from infecting all of us
I remember seeing videos of patients facetiming from the hospital, begging people to mask up. How in FUCK anyone could think the whole thing was a "hoax" is beyond me.
Wearing a mask didn't stop you from getting sick just like the vaccine didn't stop people from getting badly sick the masks were more for making money so they made sure people got the hell scared out of them and would listen to everything the media said
I stayed away listening to "the media" (which, yes, it was an issue with both spectrums at times but mostly right-wing media going loony) I listened to medical experts. I've not been wearing it since 2021, but I'm not gonna be ignorant about them and bullying.
Lead paint + leaded gasoline + decades of attacks on the Dept of Education + being too chickenshit to face reality - several chromosomes = typical MAGAt
Did the vaccine, did the masks, still got sick...sometimes I feel like it's less about preventative measures and more about karma. You were a real asshole last year? Here's RSV...and as soon as you shake that off have some Covid.
Not necessarily about preventing any disease at all whatsoever, just preventing spread & lessening the more severe symptoms if someone does catch it despite that.
I try to tell people to think of a vaccine like a seatbelt. Won’t always 100% save you but you’re a lot less likely to die horribly.
Face diapers don't prevent you from getting sick. They prevent you from spreading the disease you have to others.
To keep from getting sick you need to use a disposable N95 and wash your hands. Even that isn't a guarantee. Get your vaccines and your cough medicine because it's winter.
Yuuup. I don’t understand where this info go lost in the shuffle but I suspect it’s the fact that over 50% of Americans only read at a 6th grade level.
Vaccines didn't really work either if anything those vaccines caused way more illness than prevented every one I knew that got the vaccine got sick and I never got it and never once got sick
So you never getting sick must be the golden rule, your lived experience is everyones. Read an article? Follow actual chain of events and you would see your experience isn’t the majority. I’ve lost family, friends, parents of my students and many died before there was a vaccine. Essential workers
Masks are intended to help prevent you from spreading a disease, they do nothing for preventing catching. I have no idea why anyone feels the need to still wear one, if you have flu etc stay home, if you're well, go about your business as usual.
Because people don’t stay home, & part of the blame are greedy pharmaceutical companies that put out commercials claiming their products will make you feel better… expensive products that are nothing more than glorified Tylenol & sleep meds w/tylenol. They do ZIP to stop the disease, shorten it
or keep it from spreading. It’s for comfort only, but people see those commercials & the smiling folks heading back off to work in them & believe if they take those meds, nothing more than their personal comfort is more important.
They do nothing. Masks work, staying home works… but that requires
sacrifice some (most) can’t afford (time off, loss of pay). Medicare for all would help (as in free masks during cold/flu season), as would ADEQUATE mandated sick days, but we can’t have that bc of fReEdUmS & no tax for billionaires.
There’s more to it, but it’d require 5 more paragraphs :(
I read everything you wrote actually. You ranted on about pharmaceutical companies etc. I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in masks and this obsession people have with wearing them since the pandemic. Grow up, be an adult, be responsible yourself and stay home w/ flu etc. Move on.
People do that all the time.
- Friend: ugh, my electricity bill is so expensive
- Me: Mine isn't so bad. What do you do to pay less? I wash my clothes during the weekends for example, because it's 33% cheaper
- Friend: that's stupid, it won't make a difference
- Me: 😑
They also do help protect you from germs. Not as much as they protect others from your germs, but still. It’s worth noting that they do make a difference for the wearer.
This is only if N95 or better. Also they must be used properly in near laboratory like conditions.
Milling about outside, going into restrooms and grocery stores, touching your mask repeatedly, forget it. You may well just have some dental floss hanging out your mouth.
You’re almost correct, but I feel like you swung too hard to the other end where you’re minimizing their effectiveness to the point that it becomes hyperbole.
I’m also really not sure why you would want to convince people that masks are useless?
I completely admit they help prevent transmission from the wearer to others.
But the OP is primarily claiming it helps wearer directly. But that is VERY iffy and requires A LOT of attention on the part of the wearer...which is generally not happening. So its misinformation.
Working in pulm over covid, I can tell u, this was EXTREMELY common. Like people seriously at risk paid it no never mind. Same people would ask me why flu rates when down while CoV went up. They also looked deer in headlights when I told them there's a dif in causation and correlation...🙄
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This is like saying “I got the chicken pox vaccine but still got the flu”. Of course you did.
"LOL No, covid doesn't exist. So what are they REALLY doing??"
🤦
least I could do, though, for my disabled comrades.
At a social level? We're choosing rampant illness despite being able to shut it down.
I do know what I’m talking about.
Surgical masks and fabric masks are less effective, but any mask is better than no mask.
The point is that masking is good for uninfected people too, especially since selfish sick people all over this backward country refuse to actually protect others from their germs. Masking is a really good idea.
Also says he cant breath with mask on
Anyway: https://www.pmc19.com/data/index.php
That's actually pretty funny!
Tragic, really. Some very full of themselves people on the right could stand to have air let out of them.
I don't get sick...
No one I know waers a mask...
No one gets sick...
I'm kinda done with all the false equivalent and bad faith takes!
You guys wanna be scared little pussies over a "nasty cold....
Had a cashier no mask coughing up a dang lung on the front end. I really wanted to say
but no mask to save people at risk
not in the least bit ironic
I'm sorry I think we have similar moms.
Btw covid levels in the wastewater are currently HIGH. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#wastewater-surveillance
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8635983/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38775460/
and no.
but considering the average intelligence of people on twitter, i wouldn't be surprised if most you have been doing that your whole lives.
I went to urgent care over the weekend (not respiratory) and a few visibly sick people were wearing them, which I suppose was for the benefit of everybody else. Thanks homies, get well soon.
I know, ive been that guy for the last 4 years.
Last time we talked, she'd had COVID *eight times*, with 2 hospitalizations.
East Peasy, other than the microchip, I am no worse off.
Nobody was asked to or required to wear masks due to the masks protecting the wearer, even if some did have filters.
The entire diaper thing was making fun of people who masked to protect others, underpinned by the belief that caring about others at all is something to be ridiculed.
https://bsky.app/profile/artsymarxist.com/post/3lft4omavmc2z
And ugly. And stinky.
From cotton to polyester or even the doctors masks they have at the hospitals I can’t wear them.. wonder if I’d look weird walking around wearing a nuclear war mask 🥲
Oath Keepers all wear masks.
The meme here at the top is talking about wearing masks
but Oath Keepers dont want to wear what the meme calls
face diaper.
My F bombs in that case were adjective and not pronoun.
Science shows evidence that masks help to dampen spread of respiratory disease, like COVID, and many of the same people who deny that science and publicly dare to flout their manhood in public also are the same guys who wear masks for trump read alt
My first thought was "motherfuckers aren't washing their damn hands and it caused the black death?! Bruuuh!!!"
They're not sane.
On tonight's episode: Pandemic Pansies
I try to tell people to think of a vaccine like a seatbelt. Won’t always 100% save you but you’re a lot less likely to die horribly.
Hopefully more folks like that learn that the "face diapers" will save their lives, and the lives of their loved ones.
To keep from getting sick you need to use a disposable N95 and wash your hands. Even that isn't a guarantee. Get your vaccines and your cough medicine because it's winter.
Also we know that we can be infectious without being "sick", so "just stay home when sick" is insufficient for protecting others.
They do nothing. Masks work, staying home works… but that requires
There’s more to it, but it’d require 5 more paragraphs :(
Did I mention the average adult reading level in the US is 7/8th grade? All related
- Friend: ugh, my electricity bill is so expensive
- Me: Mine isn't so bad. What do you do to pay less? I wash my clothes during the weekends for example, because it's 33% cheaper
- Friend: that's stupid, it won't make a difference
- Me: 😑
Milling about outside, going into restrooms and grocery stores, touching your mask repeatedly, forget it. You may well just have some dental floss hanging out your mouth.
False.
I’m also really not sure why you would want to convince people that masks are useless?
But the OP is primarily claiming it helps wearer directly. But that is VERY iffy and requires A LOT of attention on the part of the wearer...which is generally not happening. So its misinformation.
But experts in the field do state that wearing N95s will help protect the wearer.
And if one is a victim of long covid, it’s even more worthwhile.
That's why N95s are recommended.