I mean, you see a trans woman you think is inspirational and she’s cursed and spat upon by her own community and called a sellout traitor Nazi who’s basically a man and on some level, you internalize it, you know?
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I have to say this was probably a pretty common thought when Contrapoints was getting cancelled by people on the left for any kind of lib eggs. It was vicious.
Hell. I remember what Tumblr did to John Green. There’s something really interesting about these internet leftist spaces becoming Revolutionary Tribunals to anyone remotely normie
Contrapoints is a different flavor of McBride/Green. The hatred really started when it was clear she was a leftist with an interest in harm reduction, not accelarationism
i remember when contrapoints was getting cancelled by film twitter for thinking avatar2 was a stupid movie (most charitably, i'd call it silly and sincere fun), given that they entirely ignore cameron having said that native americans were just "not fighting back hard enough"
I’m just gonna say it. I think a lot of you think making egg cracking harder and scarier is a good thing because it makes the special club more exclusive.
There are - and I say this with all of the love in my heart - way, way too many trans folks who need "being trans" to be super special because they have not developed any other personality.
I hate saying it because it feels transphobic and limiting, neither of which are things I believe, but it also just seems to match... like... observable reality.
That’s how I feel about it. The last thing I want to do is gatekeep. I am in no way here to say who can be trans or how.
But it’s just obviously true. I’ve interacted with so many who were “this is the first thing about me that’s ever been interesting to anyone, so now it’s my whole personality.”
It’s why I don’t hang out in “queer spaces” that much: that’s not enough to have in common with people. My favorite color is blue; that doesn’t mean I want to hang out with people whose whole lives are arranged around liking blue.
I think there are selection effects at this stage. Think about how flaming and bold (and frankly annoying) gay people tended to be in the 80s. It's not that gay people tend to be that way at all! It's that being out was scary and dangerous, and therefore selected for certain kinds of people.
Yes. I have not been impressed by the treatment of McBride. It is though remarkably consistent with what is seen in other communities. For many, there is no sin greater than being a successful normie.
I get the notion that we shouldn't just agree with everything she says because she's trans, but so much of the attitude I see from the online trans community is criticizing every. Little. Thing. She says. As if she doesn't get enough shit from congress already, the community has to shit on her, too.
She's one of a handful of people who some sects of Very Online People decided was Bad, and now they just *start* by combing for things they don't want to hear and shouting SEE!!! SEE!!! over some mundane disagreement that isn't even what it supposedly looks like. With such *vitriol*.
I don't look down on Black people and cis gays and my Latin siblings for wanting a real voice in the world.
I think there's enough conflicting facts and circumstances in the world for me to respect I disagree with McBride on Israel - but I also don't think she's a transphobic quisling traitor.
Some of them actually do. They hate that she's working within the system because that makes it harder to convince people to tear it all down. As if a meaningful number of people ever would.
Yeah, "the revolution is more dangerous than otherwise and a better life is an outlier percent chance" is somehow not getting through to a bunch of people online.
Presumably because there's so much influence from other people who don't have to live here.
if you'd time traveled back ten? 15? years and told me "hey in 2024? we're gonna elect the first trans Congresswoman" I would have been like "oh cool! thats so great people must be pumped!" and idk how you could get me to believe that most trans posters shit on her all the time.
That was the one that shoved me back in the closet years ago. Especially wild because there’s several of her sins that are basically part of the internet leftist doxa now, but still get used to cudgel her.
there is very much a movement, which I don't think originates with trans people, but many of them have fallen for it, which seeks to isolate trans people from society and more so politics
and making sure McBride can't take her natural place as the leader of the movement is part of that
but also a part of it, in effect is to try to keep trans people like her, professionals, engaged with real world politics and not cloud castle revolution, 1. on the side lines, 2, lowkey under the radar, stealth not a part of the conversation, and finally 3. in the closet or in denial.
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But it’s just obviously true. I’ve interacted with so many who were “this is the first thing about me that’s ever been interesting to anyone, so now it’s my whole personality.”
Most people are normies and that’s ok!
I keep seeing emotional disregulation.
My tween is better at managing her emotions.
They say they think we're too good for Congress.
I don't really think that's reasonable, or right.
I'm not too good to stand up for myself.
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I don't look down on Black people and cis gays and my Latin siblings for wanting a real voice in the world.
I think there's enough conflicting facts and circumstances in the world for me to respect I disagree with McBride on Israel - but I also don't think she's a transphobic quisling traitor.
Presumably because there's so much influence from other people who don't have to live here.
and making sure McBride can't take her natural place as the leader of the movement is part of that