Why do they want to kill everyone? It’s bizarre. - ThreadSky

roxanegay.bsky.social • 168 days ago

Why do they want to kill everyone? It’s bizarre.

Reposted from Phil Lewis

This is just so dangerous and ridiculous
www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/h...

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playon.bsky.social•167 days ago

Eugenics

rockfest.bsky.social•168 days ago

Partisan politics above all, whatever-ism, always creates dangerous dysfunction 4critical systems & processes. At least history shows this 2B the case. These bizarre appointments & mentalities points to need for MORE academics 2work within politics, not apart because we see how reality is impacted.

kmmichael.bsky.social•168 days ago

What is even the logic behind this? Are they all investors in Big Iron Lung? What’s the endgame? They want forced birth bc they’re so worried about the declining birth rate, but they’re so willing to sicken/kill off their future workers by reintroducing all these diseases.

cogbarn.bsky.social•168 days ago

They want as many people to suffer as much as possible.

Being forced to carry an unwanted and/or dangerous pregnancy to term = suffering. Having to watch children die of easily preventable diseases = suffering.

watsonneith.bsky.social•168 days ago

I'm pretty sure they believe they'll be the top of the pile in the Mad Max scenario of their own making, finally getting the respect they believe they deserve, and that's the only thing that matters to them.

lynisaliladhd.bsky.social•168 days ago

Isn't he super into eugenics? This is definitely some darwinian shit..🤷‍♀️

dbpublisher.bsky.social•168 days ago

No idea.

peonies12.bsky.social•168 days ago

Follow the money.

nellie27.bsky.social•167 days ago

So Social Security has less of a monthly nut. You don’t have to worry about SS or Medicare if you kill off half the annoying people, so SpaceX and Raytheon and the Koch Bro can rake in more cash.

chanceencounter.bsky.social•168 days ago

Follow the money. Why did Ivanka Tr*mp secure a TM on coffins?

purplevh80.bsky.social•166 days ago

I was just thinking the same thing this morning.

muddypup.bsky.social•168 days ago

Magical thinking

joanstarr.bsky.social•167 days ago

They just want to kill the living. They are all about saving the unborn.

ifiwasdaking.bsky.social•168 days ago

They lost so many Republicans to COVID, and this is their revenge.

duanehere.bsky.social•168 days ago

Incredible and unconscionable. They’re trying to inflict damage that will take 5-20 years to fully bloom (a timeframe that’ll outlive many in the administration), but impose permanent damage for untold numbers of unsuspecting citizens.

voxwoman.bsky.social•168 days ago

Are they distracting us from some money grab by setting all these stupid fires we have to waste time and effort putting out?

mikendabox.bsky.social•168 days ago

you’re giving him too much credit. He’s just dumb and unfortunately he’s been given power by someone dumb enough to do it who was given power by millions of dumb people. The blind leading the blind.

voxwoman.bsky.social•168 days ago

Maybe not him specifically but there could be someone with a few brain cells pulling his strings

crookedknight.bsky.social•168 days ago

Good question but since March 2020 it's become increasingly hard to deny that that's the goal

busillis.bsky.social•167 days ago

When bad things happen to other people it feels good because it reminds them that they're better than those people, and deep down they don't believe bad things are allowed to happen to them.

jysster.bsky.social•168 days ago

Eugenics.

inspectorboxer.bsky.social•168 days ago

Taking their orders from Russia, I suspect. Putin has found a way to kill millions of Americans without firing a single bullet.

webrant.bsky.social•168 days ago

Because nothing concentrates capital faster than an uncontrolled pandemic.

https://bsky.app/profile/roxanegay.bsky.social/post/3ld7654hdik2k

swelleganza.bsky.social•168 days ago

Death Cult.

eobaltimore.bsky.social•168 days ago

The first 2 questions for any polio vaccine opponent should be (1) Are you vaccinated against polio? (2) Have your children received polio vaccines? News outlets don’t owe them space or time for their words till they’ve answered both these questions on the record.

bestsloth.bsky.social•168 days ago

My late father used to say that the oligarchs couldn't stand people who weren't wealthy. But they also didn't seem to realize that killing off the lower & middle classes would eliminate the markets for their products.

chanceencounter.bsky.social•168 days ago

Simple. They'll just take away abortion and birth control. Problem solved.

mattsiegel.bsky.social•168 days ago

maybe we're reaching the end of actual products/services (so much is blatant scam/extortion or market manipulation now)

samguy60.bsky.social•168 days ago

Like investment capital groups that buy companies such as Red Lobster and Bed, Bath & Beyond and then destroy them but somehow end up making money

danylwms.bsky.social•168 days ago

And the workforce.

Who will clean their houses?

conorino.bsky.social•167 days ago

We’re probably just a couple years from some of them openly advocating the return of slavery. (Not being hyperbolic- keep an eye out for “slave conditions weren’t always bad and some of them really liked it” tweets coming from a fascist near you)

bestsloth.bsky.social•167 days ago

We've already seen this. Just not from the oligarchs...yet.

witneyseibold.bsky.social•168 days ago

Because they think they'll survive.

askharrietfan.bsky.social•168 days ago

Darwinism in action.

awelder.bsky.social•168 days ago

They don't want to kill everyone. In a society where there's loyalists and losers, the elect and the damned, the former are to be protected at all costs and the latter at no cost

worldcitizen1994.bsky.social•167 days ago

Because they hate this country, and humanity in general.

sirsp00ksalot.bsky.social•167 days ago

Very brave of a Kennedy to throw out this sort of plan in this Post-Luigi world.

doveking.bsky.social•168 days ago

COVID was the first go round. Killed off a lot of folks on SSDI and elderly in general.
Dictators want a diminished population. And now with AI and automation Musk is all for people-less manufacturing plants. More money for oligarchs.

chuck-o-nine.bsky.social•168 days ago

The only logical explanation is that MAGA is a death cult.

hey-lese.bsky.social•168 days ago

They’re killing the have-nots while ensuring that their savage union is taken care of.

kemilew.bsky.social•168 days ago

That’s the “government efficiency.” Get rid of the lower echelon and you don’t have to take care of them. Keep minorities in that lower echelon and it’s easier to divest from them. They’ll still vaccinate themselves on the DL just like they have sneak abortions when they need them.

isomorphism.net•168 days ago

"All our greatest killers are industrialists...

At least the ones that we all know by name...

Murder By Numbers... 1, 2, 3..."

maryandorfer.bsky.social•162 days ago

I am 72 and alive today because of vaccines 💉

drastic.bsky.social•168 days ago

Straightforward denials for preexisting conditions will very likely be back again by killing the ACA. A fair number of people will die from blowing holes in vaccination coverage but importantly, the ones who don't die will pick up preexisting conditions they can then be denied for, for life.

skystrip.bsky.social•168 days ago

I feel like someone will eventually make a connection with tech bros, effective altruism, etc.

jhgray.bsky.social•168 days ago

They don’t want to kill *everyone.* They will still be able to get their kids polio vaccines, just like they‘ll still be able to get their teenage victims abortions.

julieblattberg.bsky.social•168 days ago

Was done with Covid and no one talks about that anymore…

bloodraven43.bsky.social•168 days ago

russian assets

flyingpace.bsky.social•168 days ago

And it's not their first time trying. Trump's lies and abuses of power caused 180,000+ preventable COVID deaths. At some point, the question isn't "Why are they trying to kill us all?" but "How do we stop them?" This is a great proposal:

https://www.damemagazine.com/2024/12/03/king-trump-is-not-inevitable/

bhall77.bsky.social•168 days ago

The Republicans are big government, but despite the evidence, many Americans believe them when they say they are small government.

abdulbashur.bsky.social•168 days ago

If they're not a death cult, they're certainly a cruelty cult

trinlayk.bsky.social•168 days ago

They've been working *hard* to create a permanent underclass of serfs since the end of slavery and the end of segregation.

javitagracia.bsky.social•168 days ago

because they want to see less poor people

cogbarn.bsky.social•168 days ago

Rich people won’t be able to get vaccinated either.

Once polio becomes endemic in the U.S., traveling abroad to get vaccinated won’t be an option - countries will simply close their borders, as they did in 2020.

javitagracia.bsky.social•168 days ago

they will get them under the table
Remember, the motto is "rules for thee, not for me"

soulscompanion.bsky.social•168 days ago

It's a pathological obsession with overturning and overpowering everything that opponents have done and are, fueled by their enormous fear of reality and insecurity about their ability to navigate same. 1/

soulscompanion.bsky.social•168 days ago

The cultural reality of the United States is that the diversity/social justice train has left the station and isn't going back. We're all here together already, we see and love each other, we laugh and eat together, & that scares MAGAts the most, bc they KNOW we're not going back.

garrettgilchrist.bsky.social•168 days ago

birdinerdi1225.bsky.social•168 days ago

I think they're drinking their own kool-aid 😭

studecyclist.bsky.social•168 days ago

The working iron lung at the Sierra Sacramento Valley Medical Society Museum of Medical History: one of the most popular exhibits. Could be brought back into service immediately. Ask your elders, people.

oncefrozen.bsky.social•167 days ago

Eugenics. Just like hitler

michaeljc123.bsky.social•168 days ago

Because they work for Putin.

edwalker.bsky.social•168 days ago

All us boomers know people who suffered and died from polio.

All these antivaxxers are vaccinated. They're safe. They just want to make other people suffer.

sdbaker.bsky.social•168 days ago

Fear is the most powerful tool.

wildmagolian.bsky.social•168 days ago

And so un-pro life. Eliminate vaccines and children will die.

eakinj.bsky.social•168 days ago

it's still good for their portfolio

aeschinger.bsky.social•168 days ago

As an infectious disease doctor it’s mind blowing

owlgoddess24.bsky.social•168 days ago

Chaos & wide spread misery suit their purposes.

rusty02536.bsky.social•168 days ago

Everything is a conspiracy to the willingly ignorant or uninformed.

And every accusation is a confession.

jasencomstock.bsky.social•168 days ago

They read one book in college and it was Population Bomb

300ps.bsky.social•168 days ago

Mein Kampf, page 33

allie-ruelle.bsky.social•168 days ago

Eugenics programs starting with the immunocompromised and the poor.

It sounds crazy, but what else are you doing when you're trying to deliberately destroy the very things that protect them?

brooktrout.bsky.social•168 days ago

They will destroy access to those things for certain people, but not themselves or their families. It’s like what they are doing to DEI initiatives

allie-ruelle.bsky.social•168 days ago

I fully believe that they will get themselves and their families vaccinated while publicly gutting programs. Maybe not Brain Worms himself, but all the people in his orbit for sure.

jehscribbler.bsky.social•168 days ago

Pretty sure his parents, who weren’t brainwashed (brainwormed?) had him vaccinated, so he will be fine. Unfortunately.

allie-ruelle.bsky.social•168 days ago

And if he got sick, he would access to care you and I would never get!

apearson.bsky.social•168 days ago

Same thing with abortions. The very wealthy maintain access, maybe even having them done at home.

danylwms.bsky.social•168 days ago

But they will cut entitlements and child care so who are going to take care of the ones who survive?

Why do people hate science?

badlylickedbear.bsky.social•168 days ago

We're witnessing the most unnecessarily complicated human sacrifice scheme in all of human history.

misterroybot.bsky.social•168 days ago

It’s not everyone. It’s just the poors

cmkomoroski.bsky.social•167 days ago

Social darwinists like these believe they’ll be heroes once the herd is culled and ME STRONG LIKE BULL or whatever

dsolomonesq.bsky.social•167 days ago

It's only speculation, but perhaps they're betting that preventable diseases will kill more Third World people than First World people and the relatively few First World deaths would be just collateral damage. As far as I know, RFKJr doesn't want to make vaccines illegal, just optional and costly.

brooktrout.bsky.social•168 days ago

It’s the Death Drive ✨

amygarvey.bsky.social•168 days ago

None of them realize their kids or grandkids would then be open to polio, I guess. I assume they think wealth protects you from everything?

anoosh100.bsky.social•168 days ago

Eugenics. They believe if your immune system isn’t strong enough to fight off polio, you should die.

They believe because they do the “right” things—“clean eating,” no vaccines, whatever—they’ll survive.

They want to punish the rest of us with death.

gabbklein.bsky.social•167 days ago

Yup. I don't even think it's an urge to "punish" per se. It's more like a religious judgement day? Separate out the wheat from the chaff?

queerkitty.bsky.social•164 days ago

I like how they completely disregard the fact that they all had the polio vaccine yet still come to this conclusion 😑

ckjohnsonbk.bsky.social•168 days ago

Closely related to the idea of an “elect” chosen by god to endure and rule.

anoosh100.bsky.social•168 days ago

MAGAism is deeply intertwined with right-wing, white supremacist evangelical Christianity, so yeah. A whole lotta “God’s will” thinking going on.

jennpozner.bsky.social•168 days ago

Well, hell. You're probably right, @anoosh100.bsky.social

anoosh100.bsky.social•168 days ago

I don’t like it.

jennpozner.bsky.social•168 days ago

Clearly!!

smeg.bsky.social•168 days ago

They're obsessed with eugenics and eschatology

beesscareme.bsky.social•167 days ago

It's much easier for people with power to control a disabled and dying population than it is a vaccinated healthy one, hence the lack of action on covid in the past and present

darwinwoodka.bsky.social•168 days ago

cruelty is the point

jennpozner.bsky.social•168 days ago

I saw someone (wish I remembered who) theorize that it's ideological Darwinism: a white supremacist/"master race" belief that white men won't die or become disabled, only "weak" women/poc? Could be.

I wonder if it's even simpler: abject anti-science ignorance +short term econ greed re deregulation?

lisarokusek.bsky.social•168 days ago

And maybe a mix of both.

jennpozner.bsky.social•168 days ago

Could also be.

gwenkillswitch.bsky.social•168 days ago

Don’t all these white supremacists also sell snake oil? It’s always a grift in addition to whatever else it might be, seems like.

jennpozner.bsky.social•168 days ago

Very often, yes. Not all, but many sell harmful (or just useless and wasted) products. But all ultimately attempt to gain wealth and/or power via ideological grift.

mkranz.bsky.social•168 days ago

The earliest one I remember was Pat Robertson’s apocalypse buckets, but the ecosystem is full of everything from gold bullion (bc of impending societal collapse ofc) to colloidal silver and everything in between

gwenkillswitch.bsky.social•168 days ago

John Birch society was always selling shit too, que no?

jennpozner.bsky.social•168 days ago

I forgot his apocalypse buckets! But had Pat Robertson's feminism quote ("socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians") on my college dorm door for 4yrs.

The ORDER slats me!

anoosh100.bsky.social•168 days ago

See my eugenics comment on this post.

jennpozner.bsky.social•168 days ago

Will go find it

afroburrito.bsky.social•168 days ago

Just us poors. The wealthy will be able to afford vaccines.

seamiracles.bsky.social•168 days ago

they want to kill people who don't look like them and the poors, except save a few who can be their servants.

sorayanadiamcdonald.com•168 days ago

They don't really respect life, they only seem to care about liberty if it's liberty to subjugate others and none of them seem remotely happy or have a clue how to pursue it

mrbuick.bsky.social•168 days ago

"Pro-Life" tho

roxanegay.bsky.social•168 days ago

They are a cabal of miserable fucks, that’s for sure. You could almost pity them if they weren’t venal and stupid.

gregdupont.bsky.social•168 days ago

Are they culling the herd in an effort to appropriate a greater share of the dwindling resource pool? The larger the herd, the sooner climate change kills us all.

mrbuick.bsky.social•168 days ago

Not intentionally, they're just morons

mrbuick.bsky.social•168 days ago

I think it gets taken for granted just how stupid these people are. They have no idea how the government operates, or macroeconomics, or anything, really. The one saving grace for us over the next four years is that Trump can't figure out how to work an Etch-a-Sketch

mmdcatgirl.bsky.social•166 days ago

I think it is about culling the herd. If you’ve read about longertism, effective altruism that Musk and Theil believe in it gets into eugenics. We have been taken over by very dangerous evil billionaire Nerds.

gregdupont.bsky.social•167 days ago

Or is this just a step on the road to privatizing everything, including public health measures? Prisons, vaccines, everything for profit?

iamlaniea.bsky.social•155 days ago

It looks like culling to me. Get rid of seniors, disabled children, anyone that wouldn’t be able to stand for 12 hours a day in their labor camps.

jbchuko.bsky.social•168 days ago

And if they weren't coming into office.

samguy60.bsky.social•168 days ago

You forgot dangerous.

akabibi.bsky.social•168 days ago

But they claim to be "pro-life" It doesn't add up.

crackedlemonade.bsky.social•168 days ago

I also feel like the term "undesirables" comes into play with them somewhere too

bangabanga.bsky.social•168 days ago

Because they're sadists.

markennis.bsky.social•168 days ago

They only think they're doing MAGA right if someone gets hurt and someone is mad.

moonskynana.bsky.social•168 days ago

Indeed

ctkatz.bsky.social•167 days ago

the cruelty is the point and it has the byproduct of making liberals upset. it's the literal only thing magats care about.

patrickdore.bsky.social•168 days ago

Death cult

abinar.bsky.social•168 days ago

To cull the weak, who are a drain on resources. and don’t contribute.

sherahviva.bsky.social•168 days ago

Evil, callous, cruel, & stupid(?)

rabid-child.bsky.social•168 days ago

That thing about fascism where its adherents truly believe in their innate physical superiority.

nobleheroine.bsky.social•144 days ago

It isn't the grifters in charge anymore--it's the true believers. Or maybe it's grifters under pressure from the true believers to actually produce results. Either way, the people in charge are acting as if the bullshit is true.

elahyam.bsky.social•168 days ago

Because they believe chaos will force Jesus to return

tinavstammy.bsky.social•168 days ago

Yes.

Not only that, but the disability too.

mariapereznm.bsky.social•167 days ago

Their version of eugenics is my guess. Survival of the richest. They assume they won’t die cuz they are rich.

sorayozora.bsky.social•168 days ago

I get the growing feeling that this administration might just do us all a solid and tear itself apart.

historysraven.bsky.social•168 days ago

Because it weakens the federal government and hands power to the states. It’s been the conservative project since the signing of the Constitution.

jbkeener.bsky.social•167 days ago

A twisted perverse addiction for destruction. They feed off of the power they think it gives them. Sick.

barronwtramp.bsky.social•167 days ago

@roxanegay.bsky.social You, of all people, cannot tell me you care if Trump voter kids die because their dumb parents are anti-vax.
You are a realist.
You know you can't stop stupid. And in this case? We shouldn't.

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