I would put eyeliner boy much higher on the evil list personally. I think people may underestimate how sadistic he is. You can see it on his face when he thinks no one is watching. He is the ok with puppy-killing level of evil.
MTG is listed as only a little evil how? She was saying the people fired didn't deserve to work and didn't have real jobs. And she got famous by taunting a Parkland shooting survivor. She dumber and more evil than Gaetz.
Nah musk and Rogan are both far more evil than the chart gives them credit for. No one does that gesture on accident and Rogan has been intentionally spreading misinformation for YEARS, further encouraging the lack of research that contributed to Trump being in office
Yeah, I guess bragging that you aced the standardized test for dementia given to all seniors (man, woman…) could be called delusional but not understanding tariffs is clearly stupid.
Seth and Everyone else. What are your thoughts about BRICS ultimate goal of toppling the Dollar hegemony? Would it be far fetched to review the past weeks of happenings and see a pattern unfolding? We now see the U.S Financial system being undermined and manipulated.
Since Hegseth just disbanded all the people who take care that harm to civilians are minimal in any military operation, I would just move him higher in the evil category.
I've seen several versions of this. There are a few Dems who could fill the empty quadrant… they too have some work to do if they want to adequately represent "American Exceptionalism".
I say Trump leads the pack in both stupid and evil (maybe tied with Putin for evil) and Lindsey and Little Marco are pretty miserable trying to match immorality with the sociopaths.
Agree with all but two: Patel needs to be much closer to evil peak--what's he done or said that wasn't evil? RFK's media persona belongs there, but the motives evident in his own writings (science, not profit should make health policy; we should shift some emphasis from tx to prevention) are good.
MTG is scary.
Her fans are scary.
There was a rally here for her once and I rode by blasting Ghost BC (I know it was childish, I know).
They DON’T like Ghost BC, it would seem.
Getting closer with each iteration, but Rogan is basically just a C-list comedian who stumbled into the ultra annoying but ever expanding podcast medium and ran with it
Not so sure about JD Vance. He doesn't seem super smart and apparently has been getting harassed quite a bit lately (which of course is a matter of least concern).
No, he's probably only cunning. Smart enough for divergent thinking, but not smart enough for originality, which places him between the 75 en 85 percentile.
Ever noticed that Chucky and Vance are never seen in the same room together?
They all deserve to have the worst times of their lives. They should all be in jail or getting their mental health fixed. They are crappy traitors. I stopped subscribing at Spotify two years ago because of Joe Rogan. He is a Nazi supporter. Make sure he knows that.
There is no mental health intervention for personality disorders. These men aren't depressed or schizophrenic. They're narcissistic. Sociopathic. Sadistic.
Vivek is much more stupid, Bibi is less stupid but having an even worse time since tons of Israelis really hate him, and RFK is not having as good a time as it seems but he's crazy anyway so maybe he's having a great time while also having a not great time.
What bugs me about Musk is his lack of empathy towards his fellow man. During the guilded age, wealthy tycoons would donate some of their wealth to noble causes, endowments, fellowships and charitable foundations. He has donated not a dime.
I think that it's his Aspergers causing this lack of empathy. Speaking as someone with Aspergers. It isn't that someone with Aspergers can't have empathy. It's more like we don't understand the other person's position. Unless it's spelled out extremely clearly. In a way we can understand.
As a fellow human with ASD, please stop blaming this sociopath’s behavior on our condition. It’s hard enough to exist without having this bias leveled at us all the time.
Also, he is not officially diagnosed with anything. Stop spreading this myth.
He is not - not least because no one uses that diagnosis anymore, but also because Musk openly believes that disabled people are a drain on society (which is why he keeps cutting funding for them), and would never admit it even if he were. Musk bros just love to use it as an excuse for his behavior.
Some psychologist still do. I know because I was told that my diagnosis should be Asperger, not autism. By a psychologist just five years ago. Even though I was originally diagnosed with autism. And I know others with the same diagnosis.
I don't find this to be especially meaningful or helpful. Degrees of evil? Evil is evil. If we start to think otherwise, that is when we begin to normalize the behavior. Similarly, stupid is stupid and deliberately doing stupid things is not okay when we talk about the constitution and democracy.
I think trump is more evil than Gaetz. Putin is probably the only one more evil than trump. Hard to compare the two bc trump is so sloppy, stupid, obnoxious, selfish evil whereas Putin is a more standard brutal tyrant (which usually requires way more intelligence than trump has).
Don't understand why this day and age who is acceptable. When growing up Russia bad even President Reagan would not deal with Russia. I don't get it. Putin has gotten reelected...what the fuck.!!!
Mike Johnson is FAR more evil than displayed in that diagram. He hides his evil behind a sanctimonious smirk while betraying every tenet of his professed religiosity.
Mike Johnson is an abhorrent pustule on the body politic, a liar and faker, his malleable “God” twisted to suit his false “needs”.
I'm curious what the fairly even mixture of red and green in all quadrants indicates.
I'm assuming it means dickheads come in a rainbow of colors just like the rest of us that are just trying to get along and live our lives in peace and prosperity.
I'd put Trump as extremely evil and extremely stupid. While I do firmly believe Musk is an idiot, he's practically brilliant next to Trump. But Musk is absolutely evil, you don't get to be the 'richest man in the world' without being a very bad person.
I would think drunk rapist Hegseth would be higher on the evil scale. Maybe you could reassess this after he tries to use the Army against civilian protests?
I feel a number of these aren't very accurate. Mainly because MTG isn't high enough on the evil scale. She wouldn't blame Jewish space lasers if she weren't more evil than represented.
Also Lindsay Graham has some weird kind of Xeno's paradox going on where he is able to move up and to the right on this graph at every major turn of events, forever. He's not the only one either. Ted Cruz & Susan Collins are out there somewhere.
I don't know why everyone thinks MAGA Mike is having such a bad time. He can do time as T****'s bitch standing on his head. In the long run he's just getting warmed up as Young Mitch. I have a really hard time believing he gives a fuck about anything he was supposed to represent up until now.
Love your scales - stupid and evil often do go together. Not sure there are any candidates for the yellow or green boxes, especially since evil seems contagious these days…
I'd put Gaetz closer to Vance. Apart from sending venmo payments with "underage sex trafficking" in the payment description, he is very aware of the con he is pulling and good at it.
Honestly a good way to tell who is on what side of the vertical line.
People of exceptional intelligence can be extremely evil (callous). Putin is not at all stupid, but he’s extremely evil. Musk may be unlikable but he’s not even a little bit stupid (though he’s not a genius either). The scale of callous to sympathetic is determined by the characteristic of empathy.
Bibi is not stupid. Evil behavior should never be conflated with stupidity. Some people have limited empathy. Some “intellectualize” empathy; they express empathy because they recognize it’s viewed as a desirable trait. At the other extreme are empaths. They suffer from other people’s pain.
More recently it has been suggested that some people are dark empaths. They have superior empathy to a degree but they use it to manipulate people. Putin is likely a dark empath. Dark empaths are Emperor Palpatine level evil.
There is likely some value to lacking empathy or this state would have been excised from the human gene pool by evolution. The best explanation I can come up with is that during times of war a societies best hope is that their sociopaths are more skilled than their enemies sociopaths.
I don't think that Vance and especially RFKjr are smart enough to be that evil. And RFK needs to be over on the far end of the stupidity axis which is magnified by his ignorance. If you throw another axis in there for ignorance, he may or may not still fall that close to the polar end.
All kidding aside, it’s dangerous believing all of these people are stupid. Some are but their followers are the real stupids. Those charted are worse than stupid; they are of average IQ but believe in horrible, sadistic authoritarianism - a far worse reality.
I'd put Musk with Bibi and color trump more to the red. Narcissist never have a great time unless they are on stage. There's too much internal conflict in his cabinet for him to be happy.
Not if you are dumber than he is. In George Carlin's immortal words: 'Think of how stupid the average American is. And realize that half the population is dumber than that.'
The worst part is that Trump will only hire *loyal* people stupider than he is. So they'll all think he's brilliant, right?
I have a couple of friends. They're MAGA hats. But I've known them for decades. And they're not stupid. They're actually more intelligent than average. So I don't understand how they fell for Trump and Qanon. But anyway, not all MAGA hats or stupid. Just most.
You live in Hawaii? I know that world...it totally makes sense. When you live at the edge of the world every other person thinks they have escaped the daily grind and that they are so much smarter than everyone else.
Yeah I really need that explained to me. Do you think they were always evil and hid it? I just can’t figure this out. I mean I don’t think I’m that smart and I saw through him way back when he was parading Marla Maples around while still married.
I've chosen to believe it either way. When I watch him, it makes sense.He sure isn't triple digit. And he had nothing to do with drafting project 2025, so it makes me feel better.....ha!ha!
How can putin and netanyahu not be way off the right hand side of the chart?
Putin is responsible for 100,000s deaths, vast areas of beautiful towns and cities turned to rubble, looted and brainwashed Russia, never mind all the other evils around the world
Vance graduated summa cum laude from Ohio State and then Yale Law. He’s smart.
Trump only got into/through school because his dad donated millions. One teacher at Penn called him the stupidest student he ever had. Limited vocabulary, no comprehension. Dumb.
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Useless chart.
Other than that 💯
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_M._Cipolla
Thank you.
Very organized.
Her fans are scary.
There was a rally here for her once and I rode by blasting Ghost BC (I know it was childish, I know).
They DON’T like Ghost BC, it would seem.
Since now we have Libertarian Monarchists, it’s more like a Klein bottle.
You know it's not all that bad, because they're not doing anything about it.
Ever noticed that Chucky and Vance are never seen in the same room together?
Also, he is not officially diagnosed with anything. Stop spreading this myth.
Personally, I'd put Rogan much high on the evil axis.
Please don’t..
At time I have questioned if Joe Rogan isn't a chatbot in the world's first robot visually indistinguishable from a human.
A leopard may be eating their face, but its arguably better than being completely consumed by a pack of jackals.
Putin can't be everywhere, all at once. Not everything orignated with Putin. Geezus fking Kraist. Get a grip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUJDnsqdU4
He's coming across as an absolute moron.
IQ without EQ is just flat out dumb
Yes that’s great description!
(At least Trump is an ignorant moron?)
Mike Johnson is an abhorrent pustule on the body politic, a liar and faker, his malleable “God” twisted to suit his false “needs”.
They all know better.
Also, Putin really needs his own special category that is above and beyond all of this.
I'm assuming it means dickheads come in a rainbow of colors just like the rest of us that are just trying to get along and live our lives in peace and prosperity.
It's a real mind fuck, I'll tell you what.
Honestly a good way to tell who is on what side of the vertical line.
All kidding aside, it’s dangerous believing all of these people are stupid. Some are but their followers are the real stupids. Those charted are worse than stupid; they are of average IQ but believe in horrible, sadistic authoritarianism - a far worse reality.
The guy is incredibly shrewd and knows how to stay in power better than almost anyone else.
The worst part is that Trump will only hire *loyal* people stupider than he is. So they'll all think he's brilliant, right?
But I've seen a couple of versions of this grid from people I follow and in each Trump is on the evil side as if that's his overriding feature
If he's in the middle because he's both I'd get it. But lets not minimize how stupid he is
Putin is responsible for 100,000s deaths, vast areas of beautiful towns and cities turned to rubble, looted and brainwashed Russia, never mind all the other evils around the world
Trump only got into/through school because his dad donated millions. One teacher at Penn called him the stupidest student he ever had. Limited vocabulary, no comprehension. Dumb.
(He is charismatic, though.)
Im glad someone tldr me his background cuz I still havnt bothered to look it up at all.