I don't think any of this genuinely matters. Musk likely views Tesla as a worthwhile sacrifice and one that won't impact him whatsoever. He paid 250 mil to get basically everything he could ever want.
There are a few people in musks orbit who care about this a lot more than he does, including share holders that are NOT the richest men in the world. They can put pressure on him as well.
Like this man wears body armor everywhere and constantly tells anyone who will listen that he's terrified
They were among the first ones with electric cars that had a decent range, and were reasonably affordable and reliable. Now there are several competitors. There’s no way they can keep their market share, even without Musk’s antics.
Oh yea, mElon is desperate! He's throwing free Supercharger in on S,X, and Cybertrucks too. Wait long enough and it will soon be 2 For 1, just like cellphones!
#BoycottTesla. Make it a penny stock. Give shit to every Tesla driver you encounter, especially the garbage container Trucks driven by punks and Nazis.
When I pull up at a stop light and a Tesla is in the next lane, I look at their car and then at them before laughing. We need to embarrass all Tesla owners until they trade their pieces of shit in for better vehicles.
But when my 3 is worth 17K, and an Ioniq 5 is 45K + tax, I’m not going to replace it when it doesn’t hurt Elon at all. I give Tesla virtually no money, it doesn’t hurt him at all to sell it.
For sure. Like I said, this thing blows up, I’m getting an Ioniq 5. It’s not as good as a Y, but it’s absolutely good enough, with way better service on top.
I have an anti-Elon sticker on it. I can't sell it. He jacked up the price in 2021 and then 9 mon later dropped it $20k leaving me upside down and with a clause that says you can't sue Tesla hidden in the contract! We can't sell. 🫤
You know, I didn't realize that Tesla's stock was effectively flat until 2019, after that it's a cluster mess. Sadly the stock still has more value then it did prior to the election (nov 4th)
If we look at the 5y it seems that lots of folks likely have pricing memory around the 200 mark. If we can keep it going down past that I think it will begin to crumble.
Is Elon still using some Tesla stock as collateral for the loans he received to buy Twitter?
He did sell some to close the deal at around $200/share;
if he still is using some for collateral and it drops below 200 his lenders might not be too happy.
The biggest Tesla bull thinks the car business is only worth $80/share. The other $400 (!!!) in assigned value is attributed to unreleased personal robots, which are several years late. $50/share seems like reasonable price if Tesla starts growing 10% annually.
Boycott Tesla, Amazon, and the Washington Post (a shame because the WaPo staff is doing the best they can.)
Walmart+ is a reasonable alternative to Amazon. Less evil and they deliver groceries to my door 15 min away. Mixed feelings about that, but we should admit it is the future. IT'S A START!
I have not, but the person running Walmart does not, to my knowledge, support a dictator wannabe who supports a child killer/kidnapper and mass murder.
Walmart is much preferable to Amazon. I've heard no complaints about drivers needing to pee in bottles to meet delivery quota. That's really tough for women.
And, compared to all the huge corporations, I'm not sure I can name one that is better.
I remember when Google's motto was "Don't be evil".
I got a Tesla before it was MAGA cool and got MAGA hate for it. Had ppl stop me at gas stations and yell at me. Now that I have an anti-Elon sticker on it I get MAGA hate for the sticker. They are so fickle.
They think it's just a regular dip, so they see at as an opportunity to buy more shares as a discount. By the time they realize it's not going back up, they'll be well and truly fucked.
I think his wealth is now in a different orbit than anyone business he has he’s grabbed as much as he can from the US government is now awarding himself contracts from within the White House
After losing almost 50% of their mkt cap over the last quarter, TSLA still has a *checks notes* 140 P/E on an industry that normally has single digit P/Es.
They could lose 90% of their current value, and have worse fundamental value than Toyota.
I wasn’t aware they were this overvalued, how? why?
Also Tesla going down bad dispels the notion that he's a business genius and proves that we can affect the market as an act of protest which is all our overlords will ever care about. It's a good thing.
Trump supporters think he's a business genius despite knowing he went bankrupt 6 times. Boycott crypto currency if you want to hurt him and his family!
It does, because he's heavily leveraged and depends on the high stock price to keep liquid. If the stock falls enough, the banks are going to call in his loans.
I hope Canada allows Chinese company BYD to sell their cars here, reducing tariffs to the point where they are much cheaper than Tesla. Their tech is 3-5 years ahead of the pack so it would be a good option to add competition.
Plenty more brands of EV.
No consumer is compelled to buy the brand associated with a guy who likes extending his right arm from the shoulder into the air with a straightened hand as a salute.
Tesla ain't going insolvent anytime soon but they either ditch the overpaid fascism admirer or stagnate.
I did read they wanted to know what 5 things he did last week for shareholders. Should have seen the writing when Muskrat's brother sold 27 million in stock before the crash.
Why aren’t the stockholders in an uproar? Why don’t they fire Musk? Are they really convinced that his leadership is the best they could possibly find?
Look at the stock's value over the last year, and 5 years. It's been on a bubble, and still is. If you bought before November last year, it's still worth more than when you bought. It needs to drop below $200 and stay there for investors to dump it or complain.
You can tell a story about how Tesla is going to the stratosphere with all its presumed innovations.
I have my doubts (right now, their leadership in EVs is under serious assault by China). But with a drug-addled CEO who has recently discovered that he likes to play at governing…seriously?
Yes it is, all the ratios are there to show it should not be priced the way it is.
Let’s hope it continues to slide to nothingness and force Musk out and shareholders to go ahead with a class action lawsuit for his beyond the pale actions.
Absolutely is. Look at how all of his companies are set up and interconnected.
He has always purposely propped up new things well ahead of them being ready, thus raising the market value on promises made to deliver those things within a targeted timeframe yet always missing the mark.
Is it fine? The stock is still trading at a P.E. of 131. I would expect it to drop below $200 a share with everything going on. In my opinion, the fair market value of Tesla is $85 to $90 a share. That's just an opinion.
The night they drove old Tesla down
And the bells were ringing
The night they drove old Tesla down
And the people were singing
They sang, "Neener, neener, Musk's no hero.
Tesla's heading down to ZERO!"
Not enough from what I can see. May the car salesman's regime implode as soon as possible. Screw him and his puppet! Canadian standing with you! Love and Respect!
it's cool, all the really well-run companies sink like WWII submarines as soon as their owners assume lawless extra-governmental powers, it's factored into the model
if you have TSLA equity, plz sell it, if you haven’t it, please short sell it, I’m the founder of public company, it’s not reasonable for a company worth more than 100P/E, I short sell the TSLA from 470USD/share to now, and donated the capital gain to Ukraine army, anti oligarchs from every person
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At some point the Tesla board will have no choice but to remove him, bankrupt him, and put the nails in his coffin.
Like this man wears body armor everywhere and constantly tells anyone who will listen that he's terrified
well... well... well...
Does he care about consequences? He's a baby daddy of 13 kids and a drug addict. What do you think?
https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3ljsgyiotvs2p
Those wheels will stop spinning 💔
They are so desperate it’s embarrassing.
https://electrek.co/2025/03/05/tesla-tsla-sales-crash-continues-in-europe-with-germany-down-70/
I can’t afford to dump my Tesla, but I assure you, I won’t replace it with another.
Like I said, if it has silver handles, they bought it from the Elon Musk that at least spoke to decency and climate change.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2025/03/04/elon-musk-is-officially-116-billion-poorer-than-his-peak-as-tesla-stock-pulls-back-more-than-40/
He did sell some to close the deal at around $200/share;
if he still is using some for collateral and it drops below 200 his lenders might not be too happy.
Let's fine out!
Walmart+ is a reasonable alternative to Amazon. Less evil and they deliver groceries to my door 15 min away. Mixed feelings about that, but we should admit it is the future. IT'S A START!
So there is a big difference.
And, compared to all the huge corporations, I'm not sure I can name one that is better.
I remember when Google's motto was "Don't be evil".
faster
They could lose 90% of their current value, and have worse fundamental value than Toyota.
I wasn’t aware they were this overvalued, how? why?
"By powering the X Money Account through Visa Direct, we are delivering on our commitment to be wherever commerce is happening."
Also, while he's pretty well neglecting it now, I think if it falls much further he'll have a narcissistic implosion
That'd be stupid, right?
Got a Tesla when it was cool?
Regrets since Musk is a fool?
There’s other EVs with no Nazi.
Cheaper. Better. CEO’s not cocky!
Senior Leadership at Tesla are these 3:
Elon Musk
Tom Zhu
Vaibhav Taneja
The BOD at Tesla are these 8:
Elon Musk
Robyn M. Denholm
Ira Ehrenpreis
Joe Gebbia
James Murdoch
Kimbal Musk
JB Straubel
Kathleen Wilson-Thompson
https://ir.tesla.com/corporate
No consumer is compelled to buy the brand associated with a guy who likes extending his right arm from the shoulder into the air with a straightened hand as a salute.
Tesla ain't going insolvent anytime soon but they either ditch the overpaid fascism admirer or stagnate.
Europe is similarly down YOY. The question now becomes when a shareholder revolt takes place.
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It was -probably still is- way overvalued
I have my doubts (right now, their leadership in EVs is under serious assault by China). But with a drug-addled CEO who has recently discovered that he likes to play at governing…seriously?
Let’s hope it continues to slide to nothingness and force Musk out and shareholders to go ahead with a class action lawsuit for his beyond the pale actions.
He has always purposely propped up new things well ahead of them being ready, thus raising the market value on promises made to deliver those things within a targeted timeframe yet always missing the mark.
The instant they announce that they're firing him as CEO, buy that shit.
Maintenance and warranty things are what you would have to think about with these.
Some brands (f.e. BYD) have bigger presence in EU for example and they have built a decent network for maintenance and warranty should be proper etc.
It's a much better value than anything sold here.
And it has to be kept out of the US market otherwise it will destroy all American car companies.
It's a tiny city EV with low range (30kWh battery).. but yeah really great for its price for everyday commuting.
And the bells were ringing
The night they drove old Tesla down
And the people were singing
They sang, "Neener, neener, Musk's no hero.
Tesla's heading down to ZERO!"