BREAKING: President Joe Biden’s administration is considering ways to keep TikTok available in the U.S. if a ban that’s scheduled to go into effect on Sunday proceeds, according to three people familiar with the discussions. (NBC News)
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Banning TikTok, banning BYD, banning Huawei, threats of war over Taiwan. None of this is about security, a military danger or anything else that might affect average Americans. Their competition is a threat to our oligarchs profits. They are strongarming China and it could get us into world war.
Fuck it, joe
let it go, all they did was disrespect you for four years they called you every name in the book, you shouldn’t even go to the inauguration. I don’t know why the fuck you would want to, just go don’t even bother Trump said he doesn’t want anybody there anyway it’s a Democrat
They’re all mad because that ALL bought Meta stock thinking we’d all just go to Instagram. Then Zuck effed up. They all got greedy and now they are losing money to RedNote… FAFO. If Musk buys TikTok, I will delete my account.
Biden realising the wasted billions spent on anti 🇨🇳 propaganda going down the drain -“The Little Redbook” saga is a massive own goal. And Suckerberg angrily self-flagellating.
Musk looking to cut in TikTok anytime.
Are you trying to make a joke? Here's one for you: People don't eat videos.
They do eat meat, make a living, and now potentially die from livestock exposure. Agricultural shutdowns are difficult enough to recover from without disease and with good support.
No kidding. But both are important. Both can be a priority. Just because it isn’t important to you doesn’t mean it isn’t important to a lot of other people.
That's awesome, but we're still waiting for the ERA to be certified!!
I would very much like to have equal rights enshrined for us before that Tangerine Turd tears everything down.
We still waiting for Flint to have clean water. We’re still waiting for Leonard Peltier to be set free. We’re still waiting for so many things that they will never do.
Okay here's the thing - whether the water is deemed safe now or not, the PERCEPTION remains that it's still toxic and because of that, Flint residents distrust their government...
It definitely WAS unsafe and is rooted in the minds of its residents as environmental racism; and they're not wrong.
Some people are saying that they just need to get vpns to keep it.. I don’t have TikTok so I don’t care but I find it hilarious that probably more than half of the people upset about losing TikTok are China “haters” lol 😆
TikTok who needs it? One way to handle doom scrolling. Though the platform makes people money so there’s that. Guess “I” don’t need tiktok. Isn’t Elon a bigger threat? Intercontinental missiles and cars he can shut off from his phone? Plus didn’t he overstay his visa?
This is ridiculous, both sides have screamed for months that it needs to be banned, then all of a sudden, 170 million viewers who also are voters started screaming back and now, both sides have to find a way to save it….PUHLEEZE!
I don't doubt that. But truth is, TikTok is a serious problem. The reasons usually mentioned aren't really that - that app is designed to be a security flaw to its core. I can't explain it here because I don't have the room or the ways of expressing it on BlueSky - but it is a serious problem
that goes well beyond just the assumptions many people have. It isn't just the propaganda aspects or even just the location tracking - it is VERY scary if you look deeper at the code.
And just to add a bit more terror to the core of this - many of the same security flaws are present in FB, Threads, Twitter and even Bluesky. Yet none of those are being banned - because those security flaws are controlled and monitored not by the Chinese govt...
Have the politicians told the American people what the national security risk is?
I haven’t seen it.
I don’t use Tik Tok but I’m not ok with cutting off an app with only vague warnings. They’ve lied before.
Remember, any time the government limits your options it takes your freedom.
I personally could not care less for this platform which was reported to have multiple security risks for the users. And it's of foreign origins so guess who it benefit. Not us. We need a better alternative to tiktok, like Bluesky.
I don't understand why lawmakers in Biden's Dem.Party went along with MAGA Republicans to sell off the bogus Chinese scare. Tiktok helped him and Dems sell their message and win the 2020 elections. Yet, they joined MAGA Republicans in passing legislation banning it. The irony is laughable!
I totally concur. AIPAC is one of the most dangerous groups in the US. It's amusing watching this group bang the heads of both Republican and Dem.politicians
TikTok being a non-US company put a hole in the US propaganda apparatus plus US social media giants wanted to kill a competitor that was really sticking in their craw.
Congress underestimated how transparent their motivations are.
Joe, your time would be better spent on granting preemptive pardons to trump targets! And getting the equal rights amendment certified and published, why hasn’t that been done? There’s no excuse to leave these matters undone.
TikTok shop has given Amazon a run for their $$ and Jeff doesn't like that. He teamed up with Zuck to get rid of TikTok so people started going to Redbook an actual Chinese app! We are now learning Mandarin and finding out how much propaganda we were told about China.
Interesting timing after the American people gave the government a big middle finger and went and willingly gave China their data. If they keep Tiktok owned by the same people, we just have two places to hang out
Not so sure Byte Dance will keep it up for now with a law pending. They have the upper hand. Keep it dark for as long as it takes Congress and Trump to overturn it. It leaked today that they would turn it off until something concrete was done. Under the guise of protecting service providers.
True, sure, but TikTok allows people from all over to communicate and share ideas. One could argue the other platforms allow the same as well, but honestly, meta seems to squash so much of that unless you’re a big influencer. Small accounts can go viral on TikTok.
Is he senile? Does he not remember he's the moron that signed the ban bill into law in the first place? We really need to reform the Democratic party, and we can start by throwing out everyone over 70. Go retire.
I don't care about TikTok, have never even used it.
Why doesn't someone here in the states just copy the idea? Steal China's idea instead of our intellectual property and data for once.
I feel more threatened from a national security threat, convicted criminal, insurrectionist leader, swearing to the highest office in our country than I do tik tok. At least China won’t be in charge of our country with tik tok. 🤷🏼♂️🤬
Seriously... why do we care? This is pretty inevitable. The repubs have decided it's more important than life itself, more important than even making sure trans people must use inappropriate bathrooms, so it's going to happen. Leave it, let Mango Mussolini face the wrath of angry tweenagers.
After insisting it's a threat to national security...
That tells you it was always about the fat checks Zuckerberg cut to everyone willing to kill it. Absolutely everyone that voted for the bill chose their money over your free speech.
And we need TikTok because...? Oh right I'm going to do some stupid dance for attention, then along with the likes get trolled really hard and sit in my room in the dark wondering why my life sucks even though it probably doesn't. Yup we need TikTok...
We know it is not " fiction " , this is why the Trump/ Musk asked for a delay ...They seen what a control of the social medias can do in an election ....
TikTok is not available in China. It is a Chinese product. It is an information harvesting device and China will not allow it there. That should be all you need to know. If you are at a dinner with a host you don't trust and they won't eat the duck, don't eat the duck!
Thank all the people in Congress who saw this as something they should waste time on without really selling it to the American public.... none of us really saw this app as a threat... and no one truly gave a good reason why.
If they were really concerned about our data privacy, they’d pass a comprehensive federal data privacy law that applies to most businesses that process our data. The TikTok ban is about censorship.
thank god for priorities! why, golly-gee-whiz, mr. president, thanks so much! is there a tiktok trend of people just bending over and taking it? just cuirous ...
The basic problem is that Republicans and Democrats in Washington truly do not understand social media, technology, and its integration into both business and personal use.
So, they passed a law without truly understanding the context of the actual issues involved and just said “National security”
I expect counties and companies will respond in a similar way when Trump tests to make demands of them. A simple embargo of the US by these entities will do massive harm to us.
So you’re OK with the government infringing upon first amendment rights? Know what other countries banned free speech Russia, and North Korea. Get a life dude maybe open a history book.
There's a lot of stuff on tik tok that is very problematic, with a ton of lies and racism. But it's become an invaluable way for people who need to work from home to cover their cost and also a fantastic tool for Freedom fighters.
It’s not a free speech when it’s being manipulated by bad actors or states. They only spew disinformation to hurt the democratic free word and protect dictators and authoritarians.
I think that there should be repercussions for intentionally spreading information that is false, that is not protected by the freedom of speech but there is plenty of free speech that is being impacted if they get rid of a popular platform without offering other alternatives.
Hmmm.. I apparently have listened to way much info on TikTok, regulations, etc. Congress should have done something a decade ago. But, hey! Free speech! Jfc
Uk papers are saying musk is trying to buy it and he’s working with china no surprise there the control freak wants more control of the USA and the world
I believe the TikTok thing was jammed in as part of a bill authorizing aid to Ukraine and Israel. He signed the aid bill, and the TikTok ban came along for free.
I think a lot of people are staying on RedNote anyway even if they can still use TikTok too and honestly I think that's wonderful. Our governments keep us demonizing each other while they play games to dominate each other. The more we can connect directly the better.
Sadly, this may be too little, too late. The people have already spoken. The real issue is that the govt is afraid of people exercising their free will. Little Red Book is taking off anyway. Spite can be a good thing, especially when it pisses off the oligarchy.
I hope the ban goes through just to see if the young people who use TikTok get off their asses and do something about it, or they just go another platform to bitch about it because they are so addled to their damned phones.
Except some younger demographics, particularly males (I won't refer to them as men as that word defines a modicum of maturity that one will never earn by simping to fElon, Andrew Tate & Tim Pool) voted for the oligarchy too.
If the rest of the young had followed thru, the oligarchy would have lost.
Most of the comment on this is unreal. It was Congress that voted to bring in the ban at a time it was supported by Trump. President Biden signed the bill on the basis there was a consensus. Sentiment changes over time - not helped by a huge dose of political opportunism by Trump.
The idea that it should be banned because of security concerns is offensively ridiculous. Why would we single out China like that? Who are we protecting against whom? National security? Don’t even. The threat will be in the White House, not on an app!
Tiktok lives are heavily pro dem! Anyone who spends time can see the more popular streamers are left leaning people! By killing tiktok your killing our chances of changing minds in a world we're most social media is run by fascist.
Yep and the young people will blame dems for the ban. Another Biden mistake and reason for people to go to Trump. Honestly, nothing better to do than worry about Tiktok. If you think people are spying, give us a warning and let us decide.
I don't give two shits about tik tok. I care about saving our country. What's he doing about that. Unless he goes full throttle Dark Brandon on January 19th, I'm getting very frustrated.
The real reason they want it banned has nothing to do with data. They don't like the fact that news they can't censor is available. That's why they want it banned. It's nothing to do with free expression it has to do with actual news they didn't want you to see the horror in Gaza.
I strongly disagree. Anything Meta is much more of a risk. I'm 8 days Meta free after Zucks announcements and his 180⁰, new alliances (friends) please look into all the changes that have been recently made. Please pay attention
You’re right. It’s been a media firestorm but I remember that guy from the ADL (Greenblatt?) audio release saying Israel had a real youth problem… then legislation flew through banning TikTok. Information flows faster on tok and the algo is superior to connecting likeminds/ building community
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That PRC propaganda enhancer?
Fuck it, joe
let it go, all they did was disrespect you for four years they called you every name in the book, you shouldn’t even go to the inauguration. I don’t know why the fuck you would want to, just go don’t even bother Trump said he doesn’t want anybody there anyway it’s a Democrat
Musk looking to cut in TikTok anytime.
Respect / love Biden but…he’s not perfect.
Gen Z is a different kind of beast.
They do eat meat, make a living, and now potentially die from livestock exposure. Agricultural shutdowns are difficult enough to recover from without disease and with good support.
I would very much like to have equal rights enshrined for us before that Tangerine Turd tears everything down.
It definitely WAS unsafe and is rooted in the minds of its residents as environmental racism; and they're not wrong.
https://youtu.be/3p5H89_Hd8Q
I haven’t seen it.
I don’t use Tik Tok but I’m not ok with cutting off an app with only vague warnings. They’ve lied before.
Remember, any time the government limits your options it takes your freedom.
he played by the book, against people who don't care rules...
Congress underestimated how transparent their motivations are.
This backpedaling is showing that the US really thought it could acquire it and bring it under control; having to ban it is the bluff being called.
Wtf????
Why doesn't someone here in the states just copy the idea? Steal China's idea instead of our intellectual property and data for once.
That tells you it was always about the fat checks Zuckerberg cut to everyone willing to kill it. Absolutely everyone that voted for the bill chose their money over your free speech.
Zuck has, FB IG
Mist has, Twit
We aren’t going to Facebook or its subsidiaries, and we are killing those accounts.
It was Facebook that lost so many boomers to MAGA & Qanon & antivaxx etc
So, they passed a law without truly understanding the context of the actual issues involved and just said “National security”
Ban it.
If bytedance does not sell it is on them
Loads of folks dismiss TikTok as a platform to flex vapid tween choreo but there's so much cool stuff to be found there 🍻
If it's not BlueSky, it's toxic.
to keep people like Elon and any other far right groups from purchasing. Our freedoms are going to be taken away.
How about a priority to keep the constitution and democracy alive in the US first?
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If the rest of the young had followed thru, the oligarchy would have lost.