Criminal rapist trump is wallowing in his perceived power. How does he get off telling people/universities/businesses what they have to do for him or he will punish them. Trump’s sh*t is made over seas. How much tariffs will he put on it?
Get ready for a run on screwdrivers at your local hardware store:
Lutnick: "The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones -- that kind of thing is going to come to America."
This administration is a class in how our society works by way of leader's having to defend themselves. Obama tried to put vocational training on the map in the US. German firms like Siemens resorted to create their own. Ps: Top of the line products of firms like Miele are not sold in the US.
Donald doesn't care about the truth, that training & building a manufacturing hub for Iphones in America would likely shutter Apple. Not just b/c of the cost of all the changes, but also because it would create a consumer product that's not affordable. https://youtu.be/wQgJBMcywdA
I have no doubt that the MAGA people easily can produce iPhones if they manage to get up from their camping chairs and figure out how to fold the MAGA flags.
Gee if only America had a huge work force that would do all kinds of labour for wages that are comparable to those in India or China. Just how much longer beforr Trump reintroduces slavery?????
China has been perfecting this for years, while in corporate America, it is only for a limited time. Then they lay off that cadre of skills to satisfy the stock.
He's not wrong. For a long time China has been playing the long game and now it's paying off. Their electric car brand BYD is considered to be the most high-tech, best value car made in the world and that's the reason we can't buy them here. Probably the worst time for Donald to be president.
Trump isn't interested in "fairness" to America. That very concept is a cop out to what I seem to remember being the bedrock of American conservatism and capitalism. Competition, perseverance, free markets such as their are.
What that fat fuck is fronting is a Soviet style command economy.
Unchecked capitalism is not a sustainable economic system. In the old days they just called it "the rich guys are taking all our shit as we starve" and it never ended well.
The truth is that Apple did move to China for cheap labor, they purchased the equipment that China used to build their phones, and then the Chinese used the experience they gained by working for Apple to create Apple competitors.
Excellent news. Apple will try to offset the US tariffs by increasing prices globally what will lead to Apple market share decline. I really don't like iPhone.
Help America? Mr. Trump, if you're cutting every program that actually helps Americans, then you're the one not helping Americans. In fact, you're killing us off. So how is Apple killing us compared to you and your Project 2025 buddies?
Tim Cook is lying. The workers in China are vastly underpaid and always will be under their communist regime. But moving their production to India is only swapping the cheap labor being used. That is business in the world today. It's not right but it is what it is.
So Tim Cook says Americans just don’t have the chops to build an iPhone. Reminiscent of cars in the 70s and 80s. We got better, but highest marks for quality still go to others’
Even mob bosses and warlords know how the economy operates on a fundamental level. The orange imbecile actually thinks he can dictate things and that anyone gives a shit about anything that comes out of his mouth. He's an EXTREME narcissist.
Well, well, well. It seems that the 🍊🤡 is starting to sound more and more like a disconnected fool in upper management ending memos with “Thank you for your attention to this matter”.
It seems he intends to run the USA like one of his many failed businesses.
I don't think Trump wrote that. "Thank you for your attention to this matter." Nope. Which lacky's intern is that?
He's not a king, and that's a weak way to bully.
Sure, we have the skills and tools - and a much higher cost structure, which is why stuff gets made elsewhere and imported. It’s absolutely a choice, with a cost. There are no US-made big screen TVs, either, for the same reason. So we either make it here for more or tariff imports to match prices.
This isn't unique to Trump - in the UK even our centre-left government has fallen for the right-wing delusion that our reliance on immigrant or overseas manpower is nothing to do with their strangling of state education for the resident workforce.
They both are full of lies China uses slave labor and children to work in factories. Has nothing to do with tooling. Their children are also educated to do the job. I feel sorry for them (cook and trump) thinking that we are that stupid!
The new catchphrase “Thank you for your attention in this matter”. How long would it take to outfit a factory and train the staff to make opines here? Then how expensive would they be made in the USA where workers would have to be paid a living wage?
Cook should have just responded as should virtually all the executives, “hey, I’d like a unicorn too, but it’s not gonna happen.” Pissing, moaning, and bullying, coupled with ugly threats will change nothing. Where do you order one of those 8647 shirts?🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇦🇫🇷
To describe Donvict as even a 1 dimensional thinker is a tremendous stretch. He doesn’t understand that A affects B which in turn affects C and renders D impossible. “Wawa, I wanna, I wanna” does not = policy. This is not reality TV. There are no scripts for him to read from. Stupidity is a curse
Something else first felon is ignoring is the US labor market versus the world labor market. Because of the Wagner act and Taft-Hartley, workers are treated much better here and they make much more $. That is great! On the other hand, it does make certain types of domestic manufacturing impossible.
Old NutDonald did some harm
Elon did some more
And with that harm he added more tariffs
More than ever before
With a 10% here and 25 there
Here a 30, there a 50
Everywhere a 50 50
Old NutDonald did much harm
And MAGA cheered him on
So if that is true, we could come up with incentives for Apple (and other companies) to start creating the depth of expertise neeed (training/education) here so that in <5> years we can open factories here too.
So a planned, rational approach to bringing manufacturing to the US.
Planned, rational.
In general, does this clown know the floodgates he is opening for the next time a Dem wins the WH? I cannot WAIT for the next Dem Pres to dismantle the NRA, Fox News, churches, etc. the way this administration is doing right now to other institutions that they don’t like.
It seems to me that China's companies are always investing in their people so there skills evolved with the products they're producing, and in America most companies don't, they just look to enrich executives and investors.That's the problem.
Hey “Tim Apple” 😂 Don’t try to gaslight us!
Of course, wages in China are only a fraction of those in the US.
(However, I’m sure what he said about the skill level in China is true.)
Overall yes, wages are cheaper. But if you take Shenzhen for example, it's a designated High Tech Industrial Development Zone. Wages and the cost of living is on par with any big US city. But you have all the talent and resources concentrated in one place. So some of what he says is true.
This is all bullshit bully coward bravado . It's never going to happen because it just isn't feasible . He is totally ignorant of world economies . What a moron . But it looks good to his cult .
When you have over a billion people, you're going to have more talent, whether it's cheap or not. Given the numbers, it will be cheaper because good old supply and demand.
And DT is cutting education across the board, so we'll be even worse off. 🤦🏼♀️
I would live to see one of these giant conglomerates look at Trump and say ok, we won’t sell them in the US. I’m sure the financial hit would be worth the freedom from that loon.
Oh, he invested in that education all right. Apple Pay is billions of dollars every year to educate the people in China on how to do that job that’s why they’re so skilled and why they’re so well trained and doing exactly what they need them to do. Your stuff and
I wasn’t trying to invalidate your statement. I was reinforcing it in a way by saying that they understand they need to invest in education. They just choose to do it where it keeps people compliant and relying on them.
Just heard a brilliant interview with American historian, Marci Shore, on CBC’s IDEAS. She equates what’s happening in the U.S. with the sinking of the Titanic; no one thought it’s possible it would sink. Americans need to open their eyes, believe what they’re seeing, get LOUD and in their faces.
Apple had & has a strategy. It’s a long term deal. trump cannot change that strategy unilaterally, overnight without badly harming the company. That is not in our interest. trump is drunk on power & is ruining everything.
Like other developed countries, we have to import people (legally or otherwise) to work in agriculture, hospitality, construction, etc., but sure, we could start up a bunch of factories here, no problem, if it just weren’t for these evil corporations! Politicians exploit the ignorance of the voters.
90% of the US probably pictures China as it was decades ago, and wonders how it’s had a massive expansion of its middle class when everyone gets paid $0.15 an hour.
Of course, they picture Europe as a mashup of the Medieval, Victorian, and post WWII periods, as well.
I’m confused, so it’s not about cheap labor? On why we have things built in China it’s because Americans are just too dumb to make things here? 🤣 is that what the video is basically saying?!?
The mad King has spoken, Tim what will you do now, to make the King happy? Airplane or more money 💰? Bend the knee… we are all watching… I wish we would act like Brazil and let the “Mad King” face justice for his actions
“Thank you for you attention to this matter”
He always signs off this way just like that asshole boss that has just implemented a new workplace rule that’s fucking stupid.
"Thank you for your attention to this matter" is a recent aberration in Trump style.
Concluding nonsensical, xenophobic or fascist proclamations with a formal salutation more at home in a 1950s business letter, may be his attempt to lend an air of sanity to his demented rants.
Does it work for you?
They don't want educated citizens. Educated citizens can't be manipulated the way we see them manipulating the uneducated. They need the useful idiots so they can continue to exploit them like parasites. They only care about their mansions and country clubs, everyone else can have shacks.
Donald J.Trump's picks for his Administration/Cabinet show that he has no interest in having excellence or expertise...Donald J.Trump doesn't understand expertise....he and everyone in his Administration/ Cabinet are the epitome of ineptitude.
Everyone understands why , IPhones cannot be built in the U.S.
The only one that doesn’t is our lunatic President. ( do you know how much it hurts to say that )
I have no sympathy for Cook or his company after he showed up at the Inauguration. He's right about expertise, but his phones and computers will cost much more if they are made here.
Trump threatens a 50% tariff on the EU, claiming the our Union was created to profit of the USA (that little shit of a President has no clue about history).
Europeans are diplomats at core, but we will not let Trump destroy our economy as he is doing with the US.
Damn! I need to upgrade my iPhone; I guess now I will have to dust of my old phone. I’m not sure how to connect to the Bell Telephone Company for service.
To be fair, the American business community likely drove that expertise away from the US because they were looking for cheaper labor costs. China made a decision to develop the technological capability on spec. The US could make similar investments. This is not a defense of Trump’s tariffs.
The US doesn't invest in its people as evidenced by the lack of intelligence of MAGA voters. The spend money on killing machines. China will be the super power they've been heading towards. We'll be a 4th world nation run by idiots made up of idiots. Those who can will be leaving.
“Thank you for your attention to this matter”, It sounds like my ex-wife’s sleazy divorce lawyer. When that sleaze ball attorney went after my IBEW pension. The IBEW told him to literally go away. Fucking Union!!!!!
Tim, this not a good argument. Everything you talk about could be done here. You make it sound like US cannot do these things. And if Chinese labor is no longer cheap, well then, bring production back. Your explanation is just lame.
We don’t have the people or the skills to build them. We don’t have the companies that make the parts either. Trump has no idea how anything works and he proves it every few minutes
It’s so funny how platform wars still exist. Guaranteed you’re an Android or Windows (or combination of both) user. Bias exists, even in the well-informed and woke. And by the way, it’s Tim not Tom.
Agree! He also doesn’t mention that they’ve invested billions of dollars in training that citizen and how to do what they need them to do. If it wasn’t about cheap then they could’ve done that in America or anywhere else.
No they didn’t. The companies they invested in did - it’s a subtle but important difference. They have comprehensive corporate, and public education system completely focused on this industry. The US has focused elsewhere in the supply chain which has been a strength until someone said it wasn’t.
Right, and he also saw the advantage of building a middle class in a country of over a billion people. That's a lot of iPhone sales to Chinese customers.
It was cheap and now they've monopolized a lot of high tech manufacturing and have gotten x100 better at it now that USA can't compete. Trump should be announcing massive training and tooling up but he doesn't see that far ahead.
No, he is being honest. They would love to manufacture iPhones in USA but half the population can't read above a 6th grade level. 20% of people in China are university educated engineers. Please prove me wrong, I'd love to see it, let's see where OpenAInand Jony Ives goes for manufacturing...
You don't need to be an engineer to assemble shit in a factory. The average Chinese worker makes the equivalent of $360 a month for 10 to 12 hour days, 6 days a week.
Alright I'll give you that it is cheap. Plus on the electronics side you can solder without have an Electronic Engineering degree. Seriously, do you think any MAGA would assemble iPhones for $1000 a month?
Yes, and it's no surprise. Each and every big tech company has their manufacturing in China for this specific reason - it's just cheaper there with tons of workforce.
I understand what orange ape is trying (at least declaring) to do, but it's not the way to do it. Not sure if it exists.
"Obviously not just Apple. He's talking about manufacturers of electronic products in general!" If EVERYONE forces Americans to pay tariffs, how will it bother Apple? Half the country won't be able to buy anything anyway. It's just anything the King wants now isn't it, whenever he blurts it out.
I can’t stand how he talks as though he’s a boss and the American people work for him (thank you for your attention to this matter). He’s supposed to work for us - not the other way around.
In the Video he talked about the lack of high quality workers in the US. That problem could be solved on Germany.
But of course it’s not possible to produce in Germany because of the wages. That’s why he is not telling the truth.
I’m sure it’s a bit of both, the people to manufacture as well the cheaper cost to produce.
Tho keep in mind what some people in the US get paid hourly. (It’s not as much as we’d like to think)
What he said is a Lie. I worked for years in the automotive field and we could easily fill a large room with the tooling engineers I worked with. This is just more BS to cover the truth. its all about saving $$$ by exploiting the workforce wherever they can for max profit.
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Lutnick: "The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones -- that kind of thing is going to come to America."
#fmaga #liartrump #smellytrump
#comradetrump
Dominate the headlines.
Keep the Dems out (this is working).
Get coverage by all media.
Come up with tomorrow’s headline.
Maybe: Father Christmas is banned. He is a woke, lefty Marxist who buys toys from China. Yawn.
And the corp media fall for this crap all the time.
What that fat fuck is fronting is a Soviet style command economy.
This is yet again another round of Market manipulations!
It seems he intends to run the USA like one of his many failed businesses.
And we all know where they ended up!
He's not a king, and that's a weak way to bully.
Is he saying we don't have the skill or tools?
Industrialist do what they do for profit.
Elon did some more
And with that harm he added more tariffs
More than ever before
With a 10% here and 25 there
Here a 30, there a 50
Everywhere a 50 50
Old NutDonald did much harm
And MAGA cheered him on
So a planned, rational approach to bringing manufacturing to the US.
Planned, rational.
Research is needed.
But Hey, stupid is as stupid does.
So, all Trump just did, was making iPhone more expensive.
He’s a fucking idiot.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Of course, wages in China are only a fraction of those in the US.
(However, I’m sure what he said about the skill level in China is true.)
And DT is cutting education across the board, so we'll be even worse off. 🤦🏼♀️
And not in the enjoyable way...
It's obviously about cheap(er) labor as well, but that doesn't invalidate my statement in any way, shape, or form:
Investing in ACTUAL education (and training) will result in a populace that is better equipped (for everything)
Like the FFOTUS would check….
Of course, they picture Europe as a mashup of the Medieval, Victorian, and post WWII periods, as well.
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-million-trump-inauguration
He always signs off this way just like that asshole boss that has just implemented a new workplace rule that’s fucking stupid.
iPhone manufactured in China at say a customs declared value of $200 the extra tariff would be $50 (25%), far cheaper than US built.
Current retail cost of an iPhone is 1K with tariff 1.25K. Passed on at 100%.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract
🤔
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/22/trump-dead-white-farmers-image-congo-south-africa/83800507007/?tbref=hp
Concluding nonsensical, xenophobic or fascist proclamations with a formal salutation more at home in a 1950s business letter, may be his attempt to lend an air of sanity to his demented rants.
Does it work for you?
What do Chinese and Indian labor have in common? Low wages.
https://restofworld.org/2025/china-foxconn-factoriesfoxconn-stops-sending-chinese-workers-to-india-iphone-factories/
Fuck Donald Trump.
The only one that doesn’t is our lunatic President. ( do you know how much it hurts to say that )
Europeans are diplomats at core, but we will not let Trump destroy our economy as he is doing with the US.
We are a proud continent!
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/heres-how-much-a-made-in-the-usa-iphone-would-cost.html?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_content=main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawKdVbJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFmUVJYd1lQMzZkdjk4VEhTAR5T9LQ_wMcbGViCTKWhLwa40US9EnNUlP07kDIbYYUH5R9V7LybVcyW_ghpmA_aem_aEEAMqbqGkm137HkZhvofQ
I understand what orange ape is trying (at least declaring) to do, but it's not the way to do it. Not sure if it exists.
When the poor people who are being taxed into being even more poor can no longer afford the things they need, the rich won't have anyone to sell to.
But of course it’s not possible to produce in Germany because of the wages. That’s why he is not telling the truth.
Tho keep in mind what some people in the US get paid hourly. (It’s not as much as we’d like to think)