They’re essentially declaring war on the people when 6 Jan happened but this only exacerbates the problem with Taco Twatwaffle inciting violence and supremacy.
This is beyond terrible! There should be a quick turnaround on death sentences for these crimes.
Joss died protecting his husband, a trans man from the man who likely burned down their house with 3 dogs in it (even neighbors who are critical of joss agree they came home to find the dog’s skull).
I read the letter written by the husband, Tristan, after the attack. I hope and pray that this killer has been arrested and will pay the gravest price for his killing.
The current atmosphere surrounding anyone who isn't a white heterosexual christian is toxic. Trump is encouraging this hatred every time he pardons one of these monsters.
The problem with not charging & prosecuting as a Hate Crime is the subtle dogwhistle to fellow Homophobes that there are no consequences for targeting & killing an individual based on their sexual preference. #TexasSSSSSUCKS
Not true and the truth is out there. He was responsible for the house fire and his dogs deaths. Although his death was tragic, it could have been avoided.
The shooter has been charged with murder. And the San Antonio Police Department has apologised for declaring the crime was not a hate crime.
I believe Joss' husband.
It was a hate crime.
Alvarez, killed a gay man, with eyewitnesses, and video, local police only, and he's out on bail instantly.
Luigi Mangione is ACCUSED of shooting a 1%er Darling, with no witnesses, w/out being ID'd, with MASSIVE probs w/evidence chain. INSTANT FEDERAL manhunt
GOP:DENY BAIL, MUST HAVE DEATH PENALTY!
Based on how things unfolded, there is only one reason that man approached the couple to begin with. But Jonathan died a hero - pushing his beloved husband out of harm's way and taking the bullet himself. His last act on this earth was one of love and that's what I'll always remember.
Acceptance is not mandatory to remain a human being.
These killers never learned that many have other ideas about their own love lives.
Pitiful killers.
It’s time to arm up stay armed and be ready to fight back whomever the person is that pulls a gun out on you! If you see your friend in need of help don’t hesitate. Help!
Total fucking ignorance!!
What kind of low-life motherfucker worries about someone else's choices?
A loser with no life, no prospects, no hope of his own.
The reason was a dangerous heating source because the house had been deemed uninhabitable and power had been cut off. The reasons weren't unknown. If people would stop jumping on some of the unsubstantiated stories circulating, a clearer picture emerges.
"Tristan Kern de Gonzales, Joss' husband, described the shooting as a hate crime. He stated that the couple had been repeatedly harassed because they were gay and that their home was burned down following years of threats from neighbors..."
Tristan sort of implied it was burnt down purposely.
By leaving a dangerous alternate heat source locked up with their dogs after utilities to their house were cut off and going to a hotel for the night. Tristan can't be trusted, unfortunately. There was a long history of bizarre behaviour and numerous police visits, some for mental health checks.
I'm sorry, I must have misread what you wrote. There is no direct, or substantive evidence, unfortunately. Which means this terrible crime is not going to be treated with the severity or should. And there's no one to appeal to on a federal level because *gestures at everything*
It pains me that I am 66 years old, and this hate still exists. I had a black roommate in college and we got pulled over whenever we drove anywhere together. Cops said the only reason a white man and a black were together in a car was a drug deal.
America used to be free. Where one could be themselves. This spirit of the 60s&70s was an integral part of our youth movement. We thought such freedom was forever. Then the KKKhristian Nationalists gained power. They fed their cult scapegoats to blame for all ills. His death is the result.
What a horrific neighborhood. Regardless how he acted there is no justification for the house burning and the effing murder. Police called multiple times to no affect and a different neighbor saying Joss caused his own death??
It is heartbreaking, and it was hate fueled rage. I am simply horrified, heartsick and angry. May Jonathan look at us from the heavens and know he was and is loved.
This is unimaginable! He will never be returned but they need to sue the police department or at least start protest in front of the station. Also did anyone get arrested?
Not true. Many species have been observed exhibiting behaviour that scientist have interpreted as killing for fun. I fully agree with the rotting in hell part though.
typically humans will for sport, animals do not. I am sure there's exceptions to every rule, including rabies and other diseases that can contribute to such factors.
It happens all the time. eg. A weasel breaks into a hen house and kills all of the hens. Wolves kill an entire herd of sheep or deer. Dolphins kill porpoises for fun. I’m not sure the AI in search engines has advanced far enough to be considered a good source.
As for the lyrics, turns out I became legendary for being the only straight guy sharing a student flat with 6 “sexually fluid” friends, where some mad parties happened.
Went to a student party years later - to be told stories about *myself*! Surreal experience 🤣
That was 30+ years ago, had *completely* forgotten about that! Thx for that jog down memory lane.
The poor lass at the party kept referring to “OCB The Christian” in these lurid stories - end of evening I introduced myself as “the” OCB. My mate, gawd bless him, had kept a straight face all night!
RIP Jonathan. As a side note, I grew up in Tex-ass. It has changed so much since I lived there. It’s a HATE STATE. If you are LGBTQ+, and live in TX, get out. Come to CA, we love LGBTQ+ people. I left Tex-ass almost 30 yrs ago and will never go back.
I remember visiting west Texas twenty years ago and feeling that even though the area was extremely conservative, they had more of a “live and let live” attitude as long as you don’t interfere with what they perceive their rights to be. It sounds like that has changed.
It never really changed. if they say “bless your heart” it means “fuck you.” It’s gas guzzling pick-up trucks and guns that permeate the state now. it’s never been live and let live there. Living there, the racist comments were abundant amongst people I knew. Especially the “evangelicals.”
Yep maybe even a little bit farther down that racist fascist rabbit hole than TN and KY. Look at Tex-ass’ governor and AG. You literally can’t be more fascist than those two.
Maybe it was just the part I was in. I was working on a forestry project, and I remember them telling us that if we hear or see people coming through our camp at night just to let them be because they were looking for a better life. I haven’t heard that out of Texas in awhile.
Everything when south in Tex-ass after Ann Richards was Governor of Texas. Look at her successors: Dubya, Rick “dumber than a rock” Perry, and the wheelchair fascist, Greg Ab-butt! I feel bad for all my friends and family there. I hear pretty bad stories from them all the time.
Thing is, how are any of us supposed to live in CA with the cost of living? And on top of that, Newsom's trying to pull some "LGB without the T" shit through his policies.
I live in Borrego Springs, cost of living isn’t too bad but it’s hot as hell and somewhat isolated. It really depends on where you’re at in the state. And fuck Newsome
There are other states that would love to have you also. MA and NY are the two safest states for LGBTQ+. Yes California is expensive but the hate is a FRACTION of what you would experience in a red hat hate cult state. We’re not perfect but we are infinitely better than the hate states.
True. I'm just more worried about the affordability aspect of it all. I'm only in a safer state because my brother took me in, and due to the abysmal job market, all he wants out of me is to clean around our home.
It takes some planning or a great paying career to live here reasonably, but it’s definitely worth it. At least I can depend on CA to be progressive for the rest of my life. If that changes, we are bolting for Europe.
Hopefully more opportunities for people become available, espevially are more people fall into poverty. It's not easy moving at all, much less when you're stuck at a minimum wage job.
I’ve been to SA many times as my aunt live there. Yes, it and Austin and Houston are progressive for Tex-ass cities, but the redneck red hat hate cult still outnumbers you and the numbers don’t seem to be getting better in our favor. Texas is basically the Italy of 1938.
Agree completely but cops should keep their pie hole shut as well until they've discussed with DA. We both agree that it's no surprise they can't see any evidence, why it's as if they don't want to.
It's disgusting. Evil people doing horrendous harm to caring loving people. I hope I live to see a time when this type of bigotry is not seen any more.
Heartbreaking and those responsible for the hate and prejudice that lead to this, including the police that ignored his pleas, need to be held responsible.
I guess we all know that speech does not exist in a vacuum — it is awful to see how frequently different groups are vilified & somehow that is seen as 'the new normal'
Anti-LGBT+ rhetoric is disgusting, hurtful & dangerous
All too well the person who attacked him had to be in a Hate Group because of his nature, again @splcenter.org needs to be more alerted that MAGA Chuds are unlocking the next Phase as well as #Project2025 too, this is ugly, we need to protect Native Americans & LGBTQIA+ people at this point.
San Antonio PD should be ashamed with a full investigation into their lack of action!! If its a suburb with their own police like Terrell Hills - the same! this is just 1 reason why I refuse to take a step into Texas since last leavning it!
Their home burned, their dog murdered, then the final brutal act. The LGBTQ community has enough to deal w/ trying to just exist! Constantly made the "villain", the scapegoat.. When Trump started his narrative we knew it wouldn't end w/ just his words. This was going to get people k i l l e d. 😭
Another totally senseless death! When is this going to stop?
I am heartbroken for Jonathan’s husband, family and friends and all people that this horrendous act has touched.
With deepest condolences, Rest in peace, Jonathan 💔
Not according to numerous neighbours who put up with bizarre behaviour from the couple for years. Sensible people wait until the case goes to trial. The sad thing is Jonathan lost his life regardless of the circumstances.
You’re right. I just read as much media as is available about this and it appears to be quite complicated. I guess with all the actual hate crimes happening these days I’m guilty of rushing to judgment on this one.
At least you admit it which is commendable. I have taken a lot of heat about this but, the bottom line to me is this was just another unnecessary Native American death. It shouldn't have happened. May he walk with warriors!!
ACAB
Police will never protect us. That's not their purpose.
They have made that clear.
We need to get ARMED and get ORGANIZED.
No one is coming to save us.
All we have is each other.
It's a terrible incident, and reading the statement about what transpired, he saved the life of the one he loved while sacrificing his own, a heroic act...
I’m afraid it’s only going to get even more violent against many different “groups” of people. Sad that I felt the need to refer to “groups of people “ rather than just people, but we can all see who will not be targeted
I always loved his part as John Redcorn. I hate that this happened, but I hope that maybe, just by him being who he was, that this might wake some people up. There are people that live through this type of hate every day, but they don’t have the influence to be noticed or helped.
The lesson I want you to learn is: It doesn't matter what you look like. You can be tall or short, or fat or thin, or ugly or handsome, like your father. Or you can be black or yellow or white. It doesn't matter. What does matter is the size of your heart and the strength of your character. Herman.
I read that this couple had experienced horrible bullying, threats and slurs from their neighbours in this and another neighborhood! There is no excuse for this‼️
Ironic that you should mention that considering the high number of Native American killings which are never mentioned. If Jonathan hadn't been known in Hollywood, this whole incident would probably have gotten zero coverage.
I never knew the man personally, but he was on 2 of my very favorite shows and his death hit me hard! Not just bc it’s senseless and disgusting, but bc it’s Jonathan Joss!
What makes something a hate crime? I mean, I think I know, but it seems like I need the crayon version for Texans here. What's the TL;DR rule of thumb that even rednecks can grasp? #justicefordummies
Americans PRETEND in order to DEFEND and MINIMIZE THE CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST US ... WE ALL KNOW WHY HE WAS MURDERED and WHY OUR NATION IS ATTACKING LGBTQ INDIVIDUALS EVERY DAY... to increase the number of hate crimes rather than reduce them.
Comments
This is beyond terrible! There should be a quick turnaround on death sentences for these crimes.
Im trying to update everything https://friendofjims.com/justice-for-jonathan-joss/
Total fukery
After years of the harassment they endured, Johnathan is murdered and the shit state of Texas won't charge it as a hate crime!
Fuck the whole state of Texas! I have no sympathy for that state or governor hotwheels!
I believe Joss' husband.
It was a hate crime.
https://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/article/jonathan-joss-final-interview-20358706.php
Luigi Mangione is ACCUSED of shooting a 1%er Darling, with no witnesses, w/out being ID'd, with MASSIVE probs w/evidence chain. INSTANT FEDERAL manhunt
GOP:DENY BAIL, MUST HAVE DEATH PENALTY!
These killers never learned that many have other ideas about their own love lives.
Pitiful killers.
What kind of low-life motherfucker worries about someone else's choices?
A loser with no life, no prospects, no hope of his own.
So, you have evidence that it was a hate crime. Stop saying there isn’t any.
multiple instances of homophobia
Tristan sort of implied it was burnt down purposely.
The dog’s skull and lead are different. Somebody went the remains of that fire to find those objects.
That’s hate.
There is no such thing as a “random witness.” Juries decide how to weigh testimony. Spouses give testimony all of the time.
I wonder if you’d think a wife’s testimony would be “random” if she witnessed her husband being shot?
However, I am not discounting his husband's statements. Just your general statement that they are "the very best kind" of evidence.
Eyewitness is often terrible. But, it’s still evidence. Whether the ADA uses that testimony or a jury weighs it lightly, still evidence.
The police are incorrect.
I could easily have mixed it up with another fucking armed lunatic.
If some one shoots you for no apparent reason, that’s MURDER‼️😡
🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲
I’ve had so many friends over the years who, it turned out, were different from me.
I was, and am, completely indifferent to their sexuality & lifestyle choices.
Let people be - they’re not doing any harm.
As for the lyrics, turns out I became legendary for being the only straight guy sharing a student flat with 6 “sexually fluid” friends, where some mad parties happened.
Went to a student party years later - to be told stories about *myself*! Surreal experience 🤣
A friend came out to me in HS.
(80's when it was still fairly dangerous to be openly gay in S-OH)
We had become close. He broke down, told me he was gay & asked "If I hated him now..".
What I hate is EVERY FUCKING PERSON that ever made ANYONE expect "Yes" as a response to that.
The poor lass at the party kept referring to “OCB The Christian” in these lurid stories - end of evening I introduced myself as “the” OCB. My mate, gawd bless him, had kept a straight face all night!
I hate that this happened here.
But, this one incident is not indicative of the community as a whole.
Eyewitness testimony...that's evidence.
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/06/04/what-we-know-about-the-death-of-jonathan-joss-in-san-antonio-ongoing-feud-with-suspected-shooter/
I guess we all know that speech does not exist in a vacuum — it is awful to see how frequently different groups are vilified & somehow that is seen as 'the new normal'
Anti-LGBT+ rhetoric is disgusting, hurtful & dangerous
It must be called out — always
HATE crime arrests
I saw an arrest but needs to be HATE crime
Life in prison
I am heartbroken for Jonathan’s husband, family and friends and all people that this horrendous act has touched.
With deepest condolences, Rest in peace, Jonathan 💔
Followed you. Seems we have Frank in common. He was a national treasure!!
Police will never protect us. That's not their purpose.
They have made that clear.
We need to get ARMED and get ORGANIZED.
No one is coming to save us.
All we have is each other.
Why, in the 21st century, do others make it hell on earth for people different than them?!
So awful, so evil.
Idiots have always made terrible mistakes.
Media has made us more aware of the idiots' population and landmasses.
Had you ever met him before??
Media is running scared