Remember: the billionaires will always have food on their table. Does anyone remember photographs of the Russians standing in line for blocks, to buy simple Basic Foods? All the empty shelves in Russian grocery stores?
ICE agents & Magats should step up to help farmers. This teamwork could boost productivity & lower prices for consumers. Undocumented workers have been part of our communities for as long as I can remember, and they’re all around the world making a difference!
the reds found 1 undocumented immigrant murderer and expect this to be proof that ALL undocumented immigrants are murderers... in the meantime, their orange buffoon leader just released 1500 ACTUAL CONVICTED FELONS that ARE violent, angry madmen on a mission to murder
That’s a great analogy, and you’re totally right! It’s crazy how much hostility some people show toward these hardworking farmers. They put in so much effort and really deserve more recognition and support for everything they do.
There’s all those jobs back that MAGAts screamed they were taking
I’d like to see them last a week…hell 2 days would be a miracle
This is really hard work!😓
I can't remember where I saw it so I can't link to it. But I remember a program a few years back that tried to pay American citizens something like $15/hr to work on a factory farm picking strawberries and other crops. Not a single one of the dozens that applied made it to noon.
So the plan for fighting inflation on basic goods is to destroy American agriculture while simultaneously applying steep tariffs to agricultural imports from elsewhere in the world
These guys Don’t care. I hope the rest of America starts to see the truth. A lot of my family is Trumpers. But when the cuts for College started.. they started to say Some things make you say HUM. I believe their light has come on. We will see.
75% fewer workers means 75% fewer crops harvested, planted, cared for. And if it’s happening in CA, then it’s also happening everywhere else. Our food supply can’t sustain a 75% hit like that without people going hungry. Then again, a starving populace is great for oligarchs and authoritarians.
They did. Their voices were never aired on right wing news outlets so not everyone knew. I blame stupid people and right wing talking heads for this mess.
Plenty of people did. But so many Trump voters would rather hear a comforting lie than a sobering truth. People must be curious and interested in facts in order to hear them. It’s why MAGA chuds were screaming into iPads at their families, wasting their last breaths to deny their covid diagnosis.
The question is why didn’t media trumpet it to the high heavens. Biden’s age was more important! (And Fox viewers would probably never hear about no matter who else reported on it.)
Media companies insist they’re being “unbiased” by reporting only what a candidate says. So Trump and his team take advantage by saying outlandish shit—often just lies—knowing the news will only quote them without identifying the lies, or mentioning the consequences of implementing their policies.
That’s a dangerous game to play, though. Rome lasted as long as it did because it kept the population fed (among other reasons). Starving people are desperate, and angry. That anger can easily fall on the oppressors.
It does. Like the chess joke circulating-they don’t see it. I’m not religious at all but all I can think about is “because even in the grave he is lord”.
Well, Trump needs to send all his billionaire friends to pick food. Now, Congress needs to join in the work since they spent two years in the house doing virtually nothing but causing Twitter trauma. Their job was Twitter play everyday. Especially MTG.
Not that this is the reason this is a problem. I wonder who his supporters think will fill the vacuum of all these losses. There are only so many Black and Native People to enslave
You give them too much credit since the majority entrenched in the personality cult simply don't think. It won't affect them until there are food shortages. Then, they'll blame the migrants.
I just posted something similar. Some of these people are waiting for Q drops. They will learn NOTHING. It will be deep state lizard people or whatever.
That’s population going to be Black, Native, and Latinx people. #13th worked the way they wanted. We are a small % of the U.S. population. A lot of temporarily embarrassed *trillionaires are in for a rude awakening
“The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch . . .
and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy”
Some Latino guys lived for several years in an apt a couple of doors down. They were nice guys who had a gardening business & worked hard every day. They quietly moved out about a month before the election. I don't know the reasons, but I can't help but wonder if it was self-deporting or similar.
They may have been tipped as to a raid. It’s the most harrowing thing to witness, entire families and homes packed up and moving on, frightened and often at a few hours notice.
First point is obviously correct. The second changes a bit when you just look at Kern County, where Bakersfield is the seat. Trump received 59.3% of the vote in Kern. Farmers voting for lies and against their own interests.
Do you have a time machine? How does this hobby horse help anybody right now? Non-voters didn’t lose the past election or in 2016, Donald Trump and the GOP won those elections. But I’m sure berating potential allies against fascism will be very helpful going forward.
As the kids were wont to say back in the day... cry a river, build a bridge and get the fuck over it. There are more pressing matters than your hurt feelings about the last general election.
Use the power of the state to thwart the ice goons however needs be - even if it's just sharing information about where the fuckers are at present. Don't just stand by and let the shadows creep.
Suburban white women who couldn’t bother to vote for Harris:
Your housekeepers aren’t cancelling appointments because they’re sick.
You should’ve given more thought to your personal interconnectivity with immigrants on 11/5/24.
Even LEGAL immigrants are playing low for while.
As a precaution.
With good reasoning....
Tonight Ice picked up a US Citizen that served in the US military
There will be plenty more of this in their haste to meet the Trump quota's
I used to live in Bakersfield, this is such a wonderful & important community, these raids will have disastrous consequences. I hate that this is happening.
Well KEVIN (🗣️ name in hakeem Jeffries voice) 😂😂looking like ‘karma’ from that fateful Florida trip…I’m sure constituents are lining up to thank you…great job‼️🥴🥴
America asked for hardship and it’s about to get it. I know they were paying them people pennies compared to what Americans will do it for. Cost for food about to go up more to pay these privileged Americans they weren’t paying immigrants to pick the food.
What’s the guideline?
Each society is three meals away from disobedience?
Sure, it sounds like inflation is coming soon. But scarcity will come with it.
Did someone stop you from informing yourself? Where you stopped from reading the other party's information? Did someone arrest the representatives of the other party? Is someone forcing you to watch only one news channel?
I'm betting these Farmers are Republicans. They stand to lose billions. Fruits and vegetables wait for no one. Can't put a pause on it like NIH FDA CDC. Maybe Farmers will finally find out gop doesn't really care about them. They've been had.
Farmers will take it but that's a short term thing. Immigrants make the farming world run. What happens then. It starts all over again. Oh yea, they might get money but prices will skyrocket.
Unfortunately you’re not thinking evil enough. The workers will be rounded up, imprisoned, and then leased back to farmers at slave rates by the private prison system. The media will white wash, avocados will show up in stores again, and the status quo will move on.
so the argument is that we should maintain our system of cheap labor from an exploited class of non-citizens because otherwise we might pay too much for carrots?
the fascists are awful, and the neoliberal demand for a permanent underclass only strengthens fascism. abandon capitalism itself or gtfo.
Ok bro. Easy to sound rebellious and cool but, Did you abandon capitalism? Did you not buy the device you typed those words on? Any tips for folks who want to 'abandon capitalism'?
Bud, youre a walking 'but you participate in that system, interesssting' meme. Its like trying to live in the countryside in the US and not have a car. You have to protest in other ways becaise not participating means abandoning the ability to do *anything* at all.
Like how you took my first sentence and ignored everything else I said. Practicality outweighs some things here. You can't organize if you're starving because theres no farm to table markets next to your protest site or have no mpney to get there cause your food bill takes up your whole income.
Well, sorry I didnt fully respond directly. I-m pretty much in agreement, made replies along those lines to others. The revolutionary banner-waving pissing match hyperbole of Pango is not practical. I-m not in charge of what farmworkers get paid. I was in a food coop, that's the best I could do.
do you not understand how anything works? it's impossible to walk away from the system that runs the country you live in. abandoning capitalism is about refusing to preserve the exploitative status quo. argue against exploitation, not high prices.
Good now we're getting past slogan marquees and getting towards livable idealistic examples. I abandon the capitalism that exploits animals daily (by being vegan) but recognize its capitalism that supplied the tofu and broccoli I had for dinner.
Man, I'm with you on the "it's kind of hard to take people who claim to want a revolution seriously" take, but the only people in this country who have the option to abandon capitalism are those with enough money to buy enough land for self-sufficiency. And even then...
What are "jobs"? You mean the economic necessity of laboring away your life to make some asshole you never even meet rich? Why would I not make it about that?
Ohhhh okay, sorry. So you're just living in a totally unrelated world. Have fun, I'm sure we'll leave capitalism any day now so it makes sense not to care about the present or what happens to real people in the real economy!
By what logic is it reasonable to continue exploiting people because not exploiting them is inconvenient? "We can't throw away the system now so let's perpetuate it forever" is a brain dead take.
These people aren't held by gunpoint for these fckn jobs, they travel thousands of miles for them because it affords them a life where they can pay their bills and support their children to do better
Proudly so
You play fast and loose with them because you have zero clue about what it means to them
He doesn't care about the economy or people. He'll still say it's the best ever even if enter a depression, the press will repeat it and his followers will believe it even as they starve. He's all about making people suffer.
Yes, I don't understand why farmers and rural voters would vote for Trump since he told them what he was going to do-deport all undocumented migrants in their communities. What political issue was so strong they ignored their dependency on migrant farm workers and crop subsidies for their survival
Good! Perhaps Americans will begin to understand what they have inflicted on others!
Imagine if all (!) non white people did not attend work for just three days … chaos I would think. Perhaps the contribution made by such people would finally be understood and valued!
That’s were unions come in.
Except they are realizing this will happen but have already started the narrative that it was Biden’s fault 😟
Majority continues to be drowned out by the maga minority
Mind baffling
I want to think this is good and will be a magical tipping point as pricing rise and people wake tf up but they’re just going to use prison labor. We’re just going to get slavery and maybe that was even the goal from the jump
Let it be wrecked. The people of America did to understand the role of immigrants, people who cone here because they heard of the American promise, not to kill us. Yes, let food be scarce. Hear the message.
While there will absolutely be an effect and fuck ICE fuck Trump etc etc, I would not uncritically rely on a statistic spouted off by a spokesperson for an industry that relies on exploiting the some of the most vulnerable workers in the country.
They have a long history of organizing, as you might know, now it would be walking into a lair, unless enough citizens were there to act as intermediaries and even then they’d face a hyper-militarized police force.
Hey, you might wanna check with the British how it went for them... but since humanity, for some inexplicable reason, never learns from other people's mistakes, I'm pretty sure you would want to try it yourself to gain a first hand experience. 🥹
I predict that countries like Australia, Netherlands, Germany, Spain and, ironically, China and Mexico, that grow a lot of fruit and vegetables but only export small quantities to the US are going to see demand increase.
Let see if the maga ppl will show up for $7 dollars per hour; they believe the brown & black ppl are taking their jobs as stated by their rapist leader! I bet they'll be the 1st ppl who'll complain about the food not being delivered timely & high prices!
Ya'll his plan is to just enslave people and force them to do this work. They're going to force farmers to sell and/or be so desperate that they'll turn to the imprisoned slave labor.
Let's just wait for all the Americans that have decided these workers are taking their jobs. I can't wait to see them flooding in and just busting through those fields. I'm sure it'll be any dayyy...uh, decade now. Yup!
Why would they. If I had the slightest shadow of a doubt and a Latino surname I’d go live in like an abandoned mine shaft for a few years or go full unabomber if I found the rage
I’d like to hear what all these racists dullards have to say when they can no longer have their produce, their strawberries
As they are so used to being so entitled
Go without or Go pick
Pendejos!!!
why do you think so many of us american-born cubans don't fucking talk to our families lol I got lucky in that most of my family aren't conservatives but there are some who forget that we're only American cause of birthright citizenship.
People at the top of the ladder are always willing to pull it up if they feel threatened; doesn't matter if the people on the lower rungs are the same race or not. They got theirs; that's all that matters.
Wait till they find out how quickly the ladder *they're* climbing disappears... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think some who voted for the Republicans where like the turkeys voting for Thanksgiving and Christmas.
The offering was great but the realities are slowly starting to sink in ...
"Hispanic" means a lot of things though, including a lot of very pale people with colorist tendencies towards those who have darker skin than them. I saw a lot of that growing up including using the same slurs white people would use on Mexican and Filipino students.
My father was INS back when that was a thing. In the early ‘70s, I think, they could go up to a possible illegal immigrant in NYC and ask for ID. That was stopped around that time. You needed some sort of probable cause. Not anymore.
As most MAGA only eats highly processed food, they dont feel that produce pickers will affect them. As long as those red blooded Americans continue to show up for their food factory jobs, all will be well.
Magats will only learn once they are directly affected by the consequences of their vote. And rather than accept responsibility, they will point fingers at:
Biden
The Deep State
George Soros
Antifa
etc.
for the increase in prices only demonstrating that Maga suffer from mass denialism syndrome!
We have the same syndrome in the UK, where the promised benefits of Brexshit never materialise so scapegoats must be found, never, of course, the people who pushed this "make Britain great again" fantasy nonsense in the first place.
In fact, one of our largest was recently hit by the bird flu, which resulted in them euthanizing their entire population of hens. Around a million of them, I believe. Hence the egg prices.
Good thing the CDC can keep us aware and informed!
Having worked in canneries in the 1970s in my home town of San Jose, CA--no, not really. Canned fruit is canned in sugary syrup. Fruit cocktail--🤮nothing like knowing that the maraschino cherries come out of 55-gallon drums with formaldehyde (maybe not now, but YUCK). Frozen isn't much better..
The "farmers" [CEOs] will just complain and raise prices, knowing they are safe from prosecution; the people of Bakersfield will look fondly to the time when folks tried to snipe UFW members during the grape strike-- I know because this is my hometown.
This is not lower prices. These are your fucking neighbors. In order hurt them you're going to hurt yourself. If you want to treat them like neighbors it's a minor hiccup. I did this shit for a living. Had the cleanest audits & saved $. It's cruel bc they want it to be.
I’m not sure why the only economic take I am seeing is higher produce prices. That’s pretty obvious, but also, if followed through to the wxyent they are saying, just removing that number of consumers from the economy will have an inverse multiplier effect just because of missing economic activity.
Farmers knew this was coming and still supported him. Here in the central valley "Farmers for Trump" signs everywhere. What did they think was gonna happen!
So all the Trump Voters who stupidly voted for Trump because he would lower grocery prices can enjoy the even higher prices along with the scarcity!
The idiocy is mind boggling
Over a third of the country’s vegetables & over three-quarters of the country’s fruits & nuts are grown in CA. The price of fruits, vegetables & nuts is going to soar. Trump policies are both inhumane and stupid.
I'm sure their next step will be to put prisoners to work in those fields. Probably also homeless and whoever else they want to clean out of the cities.
I’m already paying $3 per orange and $3.50 per cucumber at my local King Kullen. I can spend $70 for a small bag of fruit for my son (who loves fruits and veggies!)
Trump wants to know why these lobbyists haven't been beating on th WH door to try to bribe Trump for exceptions for their "sector vital to the US economy".
many of our state’s farmers are reps & support trump. as you drive on the i-5 freeway, large parcels of farm land have trump & anti newsom signs. they voted for this. but i’m worried about ca. ag is a major part of our economy. w the fires & a hit to our agriculture exports, our economy will suffer.
Actually, California's GDP in 2023 was a little more than $3.86T, and California farms and ranches generated $59.4B in cash receipts, according to https://cdfa.ca.gov/statistics. That's about 1.5% of California GDP. Agriculture is important because food is important, but economically it's a tiny fraction.
thank you for this data. i thought it was much larger in terms of total $. can’t say that it makes me feel better tho. i’ve read we produce more than half our country’s fruits and veggies. the impact on the cost of these foods is going to be ugly.
The cdfa statistics page is pretty interesting! "Over a third of the country's vegetables and over three-quarters of the country's fruits and nuts are grown in California." Reducing the supply of CA fruits & veggies might have a significant effect on US food prices!
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Red States said “hands off our illegal workforce & they got it.
Food & housing shortages don’t make for lower prices
I’d like to see them last a week…hell 2 days would be a miracle
This is really hard work!😓
For the rest of us it’s a horror show
Americans must suffer
How is that voying for the economy and cheaper groceries turning out, MAGA?
#2: This is in CA, they DID vote for Harris.
Signed,
Regular Voter
we can sell you the somewhat different US-made product if you want."
I’m entirely sure this is what will happen.
Menschenleben sind billig.
The economic impacts of these raids will be far-reaching.
The solution is to legalize & create pathways for more workers, not to deport them.
On the other lol muricans will find out veeeery quickly what they actualy voted for when food prices go bonkers.
Your housekeepers aren’t cancelling appointments because they’re sick.
You should’ve given more thought to your personal interconnectivity with immigrants on 11/5/24.
Even LEGAL immigrants are playing low for while.
As a precaution.
Tonight Ice picked up a US Citizen that served in the US military
There will be plenty more of this in their haste to meet the Trump quota's
One was that employers continued to recruit illegal workers at the border rather than submit paperwork for the Bracero program.
The other was outrage over how many citizens were deported.
Each society is three meals away from disobedience?
Sure, it sounds like inflation is coming soon. But scarcity will come with it.
Of course if it only requires undocumented workers to ensure ungodly profits then it’s the owners that should be locked up
And I’m implying we are all complicit as long as we want cheap and easy access to goods
But the biggest culprits are the owners of these massive industrialized farms
Do you believe people can actually make an informed decision about who they are voting for when the whole system is bought and sold
I take it back - it’s all Maggie Thatcher’s fault 😂
Not the victims of the system.
They never voted for cheaper prices, they voted the racism (immigrant) ticket.
will rise. Small farmers and shoppers will get hurt.
the fascists are awful, and the neoliberal demand for a permanent underclass only strengthens fascism. abandon capitalism itself or gtfo.
and my devices were made in a communist country.
Proudly so
You play fast and loose with them because you have zero clue about what it means to them
Just finished Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath.
Wow.
Sadly relevant to today. Particularly about the hate of the outsider. And Bakersfield.
Fear and hate are powerful forces.
Imagine if all (!) non white people did not attend work for just three days … chaos I would think. Perhaps the contribution made by such people would finally be understood and valued!
That’s were unions come in.
59% Trump
38% Harris
Oops.
Majority continues to be drowned out by the maga minority
Mind baffling
Stops the complaining about poor pay and crappy working conditions.
These raids are for show. No way big ag will lose money during Trump's term.
*See Arkansas paving the way.
The crops once ripe now rot away.
No hands remain to bale the hay.
Trump's stance on who can stay
Leaves our food sources in disarray.
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I miss Joe & Kamala so much today
I’d like to hear what all these racists dullards have to say when they can no longer have their produce, their strawberries
As they are so used to being so entitled
Go without or Go pick
Pendejos!!!
Wait till they find out how quickly the ladder *they're* climbing disappears... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The offering was great but the realities are slowly starting to sink in ...
Hope it doesn't affect food prices.😬
Biden
The Deep State
George Soros
Antifa
etc.
for the increase in prices only demonstrating that Maga suffer from mass denialism syndrome!
Good thing the CDC can keep us aware and informed!
😃🔫
🤪🤪🤪
Also, California's economy is the 4th (?) largest on earth. We moved away in 1998, and I'm guessing that Big Tech drives a good chunk of that economy.
I would love to see California stop paying federal taxes to this shitshow government.
(Make Agriculture Great Again)?
Forget about eggs. It's now the entire food chain in danger!
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It’s never his fault
The idiocy is mind boggling
I want cheaper eggs, sounds nicer when someone is asking you why you're voting for Trump.
I think prejudice was the winner on the day, not economics.
I wonder how long will this nonsense last.
99D chess