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mimi-in-the-sky.bsky.social
Jewish, queer, musical, neurodivergent. Just trying to escape the former bird app while still hanging out with all my birdie friends.
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Pro-Palestinian rhetoric is off the table because of how it’s received by Jews but invoking “jihad” a dozen times in reference to a Muslim candidate who has never ever invoked it is OK?
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Lander: "I want a mayor who will keep Jews and all New Yorkers safe, and I would not be supporting Zohran Mamdani if I wasn't confident that he would."
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Ahhhh I'm so happy to hear this!!! My best friend and I loved M3GAN and we're seeing the sequel this weekend.
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Still working on that Kabbalat Shabbat service.
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I'm Jewish too and I am well aware that the existence of people who say foolish shit doesn't erase the actual problem with the partnership between the IDF and the NYPD, which is what *Mamdani was actually talking about*.
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If you don't think the partnership between the IDF and the NYPD is something of concern, again, I truly do not know what to tell you. You're responding to things you think he's saying and not things he's saying.
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If your position is such that you are not able to actually address real issues like how the partnership of the NYPD and the IDF does, factually, create oppressive realities for marginalized people across communities, I don't know what to tell you.
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If you *actually listen to the words he says*, it's very clear that "state ties" is talking about particular partnerships. It doesn't seem like you're interested in doing that, though.
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There's a huge difference between "the IDF taught the NYPD how to oppress Black people" and "the partnership of these two groups has meant increased oppression of marginalized people wherever they may be," and the way you equivocate them DOES make it seem like you're just going off of vibes.
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He says the relationship between the IDF and the NYPD is an example of a partnership between an American & Israeli institution that mutually spreads tactics of oppression between those groups. This is true. As w/ the intifada thing, you're representing what he said poorly, which reads as bad faith.
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He does not say the goal is to dismantle "any state ties" to Israel; he talks about the goal of dismantling particular partnerships that contribute to oppression. He also doesn't say the NYPD and IDF are the same; he says they work in partnership to develop oppressive tactics, *which is true*.
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Again, guilt by association isn't my thing. He also has lots of different kinds of supporters, with different beliefs about Israel. You seem to be talking about them as if they all responded this way, which is not the case—and you have no evidence that he doesn't believe the words he actually said.
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I don't believe in guilt by association so this isn't a particularly persuasive point for me.
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Also, you haven't indicated the nature of what "support" for SJP/WOL actually looks like. SJP in particular is an incredibly widespread organization whose chapters vary wildly from place to place; the chapter Mamdani was associated with has no history with the slogan. 2/2
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It's disingenuous to describe what Mamdani said about "globalize the intifada" as "using Holocaust museum as a cover." He was making a nuanced point about how the Arabic language is demonized in such a way that has implications on things such as basic translation, with Warsaw as an example. 1/2
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Uncommitted is far more complex as an organization than just a group that helped "tank the election for Kamala." The Democratic party arguably failed voters here by not taking the concerns of Uncommitted seriously; their failure to act in the interests of what their voters wanted was their downfall.
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I don't think it's particularly fair to handwave the fact that he contributed to this 11 years ago—nor to ignore that even in this piece, the authors encourage the participation of individual scholars from Israel in the ASA, and only challenge their acting as representatives of Israeli institutions.
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Okay, maybe there’s something I’m missing. Will you tell me what specifically troubles you about how Mamdani personally engaged with BDS, and how you expect that would influence his position if he were to be elected mayor of New York?
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I'm sorry that your friends have fallen victim to fearmongering—everyone is capable of this—but there simply *is* no reasonable argument that he was "defending" the term, and your friends feeling scared doesn't change that
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I believe that your concern is real. I do not agree that it is reasonable, based on what we actually know about how Mamdani engaged with these groups. I encourage you to do a little more research beyond "I think BDS is bad and therefore anyone who has ever engaged with it in any way is bad."
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The "globalize the intifada" thing is an excellent example here, since any good faith person who actually engaged with what he said would recognize that he was not "defending" the phrase in the way people are acting like he did. Grateful for my fellow Jews who are smart enough to see through that.
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BDS, SJP, and [I assume you mean] Uncommitted aren't the boogeymen people make them out to be, particularly considering the context in which Mamdani personally engaged with them. Also, Mamdani didn't *just* form an alliance with one JStreet Jew; it's one example of his record.
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I needed to make sure I had the right sheet music for the Kabbalat Shabbat service that I'm leading, but this isn't quite what I had in mind.
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Went to a celebration of life last week for my SIL's dad and I really appreciated that people spoke openly about the fact that he was often a true asshole.
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