nvgg.online
Makes figures out of plastic, tables out of wood, food out of passion and a mess out of life.
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You mean the one that has 3000 cars on it and only 70 are actual EVs?
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You mean exactly the same as NIO already do? Not being able to leave the car is actually a disadvantage.
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Is that the one carrying 70 EVs as well as 2930 cars with an ICE engine in them?
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Interesting article though all those incentives were discontinued in 2022. I would also note that Norway is over 1000 miles long, has mountains running through the middle, is full of snow and covered in trees so infrastructure is not so easy to build.
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I now have a Chinese car and it is better than the model X I used to have but winter has not been a problem for either.
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I've had Teslas in Norway since 2017. They work fine. I sold my Teslas this year but not because they were bad in the cold. I sold them because the driving controls became as insane as the leader.
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Ridiculous article. Norway, where over 90% of new car sales are full EV knows a thing or two about driving EVs in the cold. Yes, there is a reduction in range but nobody cares because range isn't the issue any more.
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The owner says it started in the battery but couldn't determine the cause and only guesses. He was on board at the time. The fire report in Danish is here. soerenekelund.dk/wp-content/u...
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Bright tulips in bloom,
Colours splash the springtime air,
Nature's soft embrace.
Full disclosure: I didn't write that.
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In fact only one ship fire has conclusively been proven to be started by an EV. That was a Scandinavian ferry in 2010 and the car was found to be a home converted to electric Nissan Qashqai.
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Did you try to use the windscreen wipers? To be fair, the charging is very convenient if you own the car and regenerative braking is fantastic. All your other points and more (try opening the glove box) are completely valid.
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😂😂😂🤣🤣
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You can chart Musk's mental decline with each refresh of his cars. They were almost sensible in 2017.
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They are just as safe as any other EV.
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Ionity in Europe is better. Not quite as many of them but they are much faster, about the same price if you don't drive a Tesla and just as reliable.
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NIO ET5 Touring. An excellent station wagon.
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"little Dickie Tice" 🤣
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Not a great advert for The Register. That is not the ship in question.
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"Defends free speech" 😂🤣
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You MAY understand how a database works but a national identity does not need to store any data about you apart from perhaps a reference number and your private key. It CAN contain personal data which is still subject to GDPR so you can look at it by law. Implementation is the issue, not the eID.
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You don't think "full of" is a bit of an exaggeration? There are about 800 EVs in there and around 2,200 non EV cars.
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That can happen :)
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I am working with the concept of "digital identification" as described in the article. I used to be responsible for the infrastructure running the Norwegian version. People in the UK don't understand what a digital ID is which is why so many are afraid of them.
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The database already exists and doesn't need an ID. An eID can not be read by anyone, even you. It is only a key that can unlock something you personally have and is the only key that can do that. If the key works you must be you.
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Your ID is a row of numbers and letters. It doesn't mean anything to anyone. It ONLY guarantees to only be accessible to you and therefore can prove you are you. It doesn't need a phone, you can use an OTP device that only requires a button. If you can't use that you can't type a password either
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passwords are not secure and don't prove you are you. They only mean you are probably you. An eID confirms you are you. Can you sign for a new loan at the bank with a password?
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All I can tell you as a Brit who moved to Europe, the electronic ID makes dealing with anything where you have to sign something or log into something so much easier. Nobody ever asks you for the third and sixth letter of your password.
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Plug it into a charger or use a PC and a OTP device like banks send people. The actual ID is not stored on the phone but at a hyper secure location with no access to the internet. You will only need to use it when you need to authenticate to something.
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I would suggest there is no card. Absolutely no point in having a card.
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Ok fine. You can find out what a digital ID is or you can quote a page showing you what an NI number is.
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This isn't a card.
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She is such an idiot.
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I do understand that and probably would have felt the same had I not worked with electronic identification.
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The database is not what the discussion is about though.
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Except with a digital ID you can sign documents, log into your bank, order a new driving license, get your tax details all without using a pen or posting anything to anyone and nobody can pretend to be you.
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It doesn't. You get a number and a card but anybody can use that to pretend to be you. A digital ID is incredibly hard to falsify.
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How is it the government? People have passports, driving licenses all issues by the government. The police can still demand to find out who you are if you break a law. An ID system doesn't take your privacy away.
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You currently have a phone that can already be tracked. The police can already track where you purchased things and what you bought. People have fridges attached to the internet so it is possible to track what they eat. The dystopian nightmare you describe has nothing to do with electronic ID.
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A passport has a lot more information about you that a digital ID. The same data CAN be added to a digital ID but then you haven't lost anything.
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You wouldn't get any data because nobody has access to any. These systems are MUCH more secure than say credit cards (I have worked with those systems too) or money.
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Yes but that's because they or the article don't understand what an ID does. It can't help anyone find an "illegal" but if they try to open a bank account or access a government form without the ID it won't work. Much like you can't get a bank account without a valid ID now.
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Physically impossible to read and are just a load of numbers and letters if you could. The keys can not even be decrypted.
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It doesn't matter. An electronic ID doesn't have to hold any data about you at all. It only has to to confirm you are who you say you are.
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Yes and I 100% support everything accepting a digital ID but I don't support having to have one if you really, really don't want the convenience.
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I used to be responsible for the servers of Norway's eID scheme. Getting to the servers was like launching a nuclear missile and once there you can't read the data anyway. It isn't compulsory in Norway but is in Denmark but it only says "Yep, that's who they say they are"
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Doesn't matter if they are evil incarnate, you can't access the data to read it.
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If they were smart they would use the EU wallet and eID although which current system the EU choose to use is not yet clear.
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You don't need a physical card. An app on your phone is fine or if you don't have a phone a small OTP device such as some banks hand out that just give a number when you press a button.
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That isn't a digital ID though. You can quote your number all you like but it doesn't prove it is you.
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Why? It provides nothing they can't already get. If you open a bank account you need ID. An eID scheme makes this really convenient.