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that alone wouldn’t equal that, yes. but many people in their team have worked with people who hold the same opinions as amazon. both in mind, especially when they’re taking a deal with amazon right now with what’s happening, is pretty worthy of saying “maybe they should say something”
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again how is saying you support trans people and don’t think countries should be bombed “walling us off”? what a horrible way to think
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noo that’s not how that works. well sometimes it depends on what “problematic belief” you’re letting slide. ex: bill murray & naomi watts, you should make someone leave after that but damn, how hard is it know everyone on the team thinks people shouldn’t be bombed and trans woman AND men are humans
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that doesn’t work if you’ve worked with people who think the same things as amazon. you can have the benefit of the doubt for at least one without the other, not both and especially not with what’s happening now thats how you build up people who maybe made a mistake, but this situation has both
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see, this is what a drive for success without looking out for other people does to how they think not knowing who “benefits” from acknowledging that you don’t agree that people should be killed because of who they are, in any capacity. damn
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also i said this in another comment but we all know that. it’s always weird to me when people try to say this when asking people to acknowledge something obviously other companies support these things. saying you don’t support them ONCE is saying you don’t agree with it all. why wouldn’t it?
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can you explain what exactly would be isolating about acknowledging to your audience that you’re against the actions/donations of a company they’ve partnered with?
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there were people on the creative teams who worked with other artists who hold opinions similar to amazon as well with that in mind, do you think, especially in this current situation, no one would have said anything about an amazon partnership? that sounds unlikely
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you do realize “bickering” happens because there’s some who don’t think certain VERY important things are important art and the people who make it are vital to creating accepting spaces, why exclude people by staying silent on the tragedies happening to them financed by the corp you get money from?
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i think that kind of mindset is actually what’s making this happen. silence continues to be complicity in every bad action people take, and that’s why people think this way. gross to hear, but as someone who supports glitch a lot i can only hope they don’t think this way. ugh
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people are missing what’s being said i think if amazon were not participating in killing people, why would anyone have anything to say about it? everyone wants glitch to succeed. what’s being said is “maybe they should succeed while saying they don’t support the death of targeted groups of people”
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of course it’s optional, just like people’s support for them would be optional if they were to continue down a silent rabbit hole while their audience of (at least) queer people get jailed or killed, right? silence is a important factor in letting actions continue
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is saying you don’t support genocide in countries and also you think trans people exist “burning bridges”?
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we all know these things. it’s always weird to me when people try to say this when asking people to acknowledge something yes, of course other companies support these things too. saying you don’t support them ONCE means that you’re going against them all. why wouldn’t it?
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another reason why glitch should say something, some of the people the creative teams in glitch have worked with have the same opinions as amazon.
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that wasn’t really what i was going for but i will say my qrt has a bit more of my scorn showing than my replies under the post it could have the potential to be shameful, though. with the audience they have, taking money from a corp that doesn’t like the audience might bring them shame
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well my whole thing has been “they can take the money but why would they do it without saying these things” so why comment if you don’t think it’s a big ask?
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i do remember that. and i donated as much as i could in that moment. but seriously, do you think i’m saying that glitch taking bigger steps is a bad thing? these comments are made cause i want them to succeed, and i want to support people who support people. does that make sense?
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you know you can do that AND say you, as a company, are against the actions of the corp you take money from how is that a big ask? it’s an announcement, just like the one they just made. one image, pin it for a while and they’d be done
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damn i guess genocide in a far away place is worth it if a show can exist with full creative rights? OR they could say “hey we are against these things” as they take the money
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and the consequences of that without saying you’re against the stuff they do is people saying “hey amazon donates to some really bad shit for people as a whole, you should be against the stuff they do” which is what’s happening
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i know it’s the distributor, just like netflix for tadc. what i’m saying is, when receive money from a corp that does evil shit and some people on the creative team have worked with people that also hold those opinions, would it not be beneficial to say you’re against those things as a company?
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of course it’s a good thing? but it’s amazon, people are gonna talk about the evil shit that company does when partner with them. and a lot of the creatives on that show have worked with iffy people who also believe these things is it a “high horse” to ask for some acknowledgment of actions?
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yes and on youtube it’s easier to support them directly
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ai generated images isn’t donating to genocide in other counties. so while that is horrible and puts jobs at risk and the planet at risk, it’s not paying for the dropping bombs on people right now
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i’m not saying we should watch these for free. in a great world these companies wouldn’t do weird shit and maybe youtube would pay glitch a livable wage. but that seems far off, and people are still going to say “hey amazon sucks because of these things” and they’re allowed to say that
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yes, that’s true. and now, i’m saying it. thank you
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i didn’t say youtube is too much better morally, i’ve been saying it’s easier to support glitch directly on youtube. because their links to merch, patreon or passive donations are under the video
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saying amazon is shit is “throwing a tantrum” now apparently. damn these chronically online people anyway, people WERE talking about it. but netflix isn’t the big conglomerate that is amazon, friend
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yes yes, we all know YOU think it’s dumb, bud. maybe if you had a thought or two, you’d know everything is kinda “that deep”… especially in creative spaces. you must not be too well versed on this or something
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well donations isn’t buying merch, you can do whatever amount you can. and the people that can afford it WILL buy it, people who want to support the show will find a way. we all want these shows to exist
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yeah, i noticed. so again, WHY is that your reaction to someone rightfully voicing that they wouldn’t want to watch a show on a platform that uses its money for evil shit? at least on youtube, it’s easier to just support them directly
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i think the point is you don’t HAVE to pay for youtube and it’s easier to directly support just them (with links to merch, their patreon, and other donations more available on youtube)
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why is this people’s reaction to someone rightfully voicing that they wouldn’t want to go on amazon prime, which has used its money for so many bad things for people in its country, to watch indie animation? does amazon prime and indie animation NOT seem like water and oil to anyone else?
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that being said i got to know them after :3 which is nice but i wish we hadn’t had weirdos to deal with beforehand