richardhans.bsky.social
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Time for Canadians to take a proper moral stand on this issue, indeed, stop coddling Alberta
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That person is literally reducing the lifespan of people around them
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Also on the original topic, what are new technologies going to do about Canada's oil exports? We need to export less oil, period. This just seems like obfuscating the issue
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although I sort of misspoke on "cheaper than the old ones" because we don't even do the things that are cheaper than the old ones like trains, plant-based diets, rooftop solar, heat pumps in most places, etc.
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that? Probably not. So if the plan is simply to wait until there are technologies that are clean and are also cheaper than the old ones, that still means that Canada will fail all of the the reasonable targets it agreed to with the international community. And that's the standard to hold ourselves
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potentially more than a decade until small modular reactors are ready for widespread use, meanwhile continuing to pollute (especially in Alberta and Sask where there aren't meaningful plans to even do tests). When's the country-wide heat pump/electric heater mandate coming? Is Carney going to do...
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Some magical technology might somehow reduce the emissions from animal agriculture eventually, but we need to eat less meat now, what's he going to do about it? Nuclear and renewables are great and reduce the amount of harm done from burning fossil fuels, yet the current plan seems to be to wait...
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Trains have existed for a long time, modern c-trains have existed for a long time and yet most people still drive. That's not because the technology didn't exist, it's because people don't care, and I doubt that Carney is going to try to make people do anything that they don't want to do anyway...
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expected to be sufficient. It's not enough to simply make some progress now when some progress is inevitable, we have a lot of catching up to do fast and I don't think that waiting for technologies to replace our old ones without any impact on our lifestyles will accomplish that.
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Canada has failed to utilize them whereas many other countries have no failed. The difference isn't in the technology, it's in the resolve to actually make difficult decision and do the right thing. So waiting for new technologies to be invented that are 100% convenient in every way can't be...
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To some extent that's true, but I think that this way of viewing things avoids uncomfortable realities about the morality of the issue and Canada's previous failures, and that will lead to future failures. It has always been the case that there have been new and helpful technologies, and yet...
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and we can't do that unless we make the conversation one of morality.
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to do what's necessary. It's because they ultimately don't care. I also think that more shaming and moral accusation would be helpful. The point isn't to convince someone to totally change their mind immediately, it's to plant a seed that eats away at them over time and eventually leads to change...
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and so cultural change is going to be necessary. I do agree that it's good to be able to talk to people who don't already agree with you, though in this case, that involves talking about values and morality more than anything. Even Canadians who believe in climate change are largely unwilling...
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the fact that the average Canadian causes far more pollution than the vast majority of people in the entire world, even in industrialized economies, suggests that while we can blame the fossil fuel industry, we can also blame our culture.
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Maybe the strongest opposition has been, I think it's safe to say that as a culture, Canadians don't care about how much harm they cause the world and care more about consumerism than anything else. It was a majority opinion that we should get rid of the consumer carbon tax, for example
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but in the long run it will be better if you do honest research and try to live ethically instead of pretending the the harms don't exist.
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So condescending, LMAO. Where have you applied any of that here? You're simply in denial and have no arguments and don't even address mine besides to make things up about forest fires. I know it's uncomfortable to come to terms with the enormous amount of harm and suffering you've caused the world
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can hold each other too and Canada has failed them and continues to fail them. It's not about whether or not you're doing *something* it's about whether or not the amount of *something you're doing is *sufficiently ethical*. In that, Canada fails on multiple issues and I'm simply not condoning it
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around the world are, and Canada's current path, while *acknowledging* the issue and *doing something* still hasn't put Canada in line with the bare minimum results according to international agreements. Those international agreements like the Paris agreement are a reasonable *standard* that we...
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to account in any meaningful way. Another example: people have the right to a healthy and safe environment, yet Canada's greenhouse gas emissions are some of the worst per capita in the world. The average Canadian is causing far more harm to the world than the vast majority of people...
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that you don't actually have any standards that you hold Canada to, in your mind, as long as something is being done or acknowledged at some level, then it's fine and not worth talking about further. Yet that's exactly what causes the problems in the first place, that people don't hold the country..
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Canada isn't sufficiently addressing any of its issues. Canada's oppression of homeless people is getting worse in most places, for example, Canada's lack of healthcare isn't getting meaninfully better, and go ask most indigenous people whether or not they feel compensated and supported. It seems...
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And now she's doing this to cover up her failure
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The crazy thing is that it wouldn't have been that hard or expensive to make the oilsands less polluting but Smith is also beholden to the gas industry which powers the oilsands. She failed to do what's best for the oil industry (clean up its pollution) because of her other allegiance.
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Unfortunately a significant percentage of every country are like "I don't like how things are going, it must be the federal government's fault, gonna do fascism now" Lack of understanding what's going on in the world or how anything works
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I literally went through every sector of the economy and shared facts about why Canada does poorly on reducing emissions from all of them. Now you're pretending that I couldn't be swayed by facts when you're the one with your head in the sand.
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Land use means either humans destroying vegetation or adding vegetation, it doesn't mean forest fires that just happen. America's emissions are slightly lower mostly because the Alberta Oilsands are much more polluting than the way oil is extracted in the US
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on indigenous communities that didn't want them with the Transmountain expansion. That fact that technically they're supposed to be consulted is one thing, but actually respecting their rights to their land is where Canada falls short. It's mostly talk
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indigenous peoples indiginews.com/features/for... I also noticed that you didn't once speak about the actual material conditions of indigenous people in Canada, how long they live, their living conditions, rates of illness, etc. That's Canada's shame. Also the federal government forced pipelines...
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Most of that has nothing to do with human rights. It seems like you're just trying to feel good about Canada and deflect from valid criticism. You mention the environment but the average Canadian causes far more harm via greenhouse gas emissions than the vast majority of the world and is poisoning..
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also worth noting that this is is precisely an example of not owning up to issues. In general, I've found that Canadians pretend that the issues don't exist for the most part, or if they don't, they espouse non-solutions and engage in the kind of dishonest propaganda you are.
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I said that Canada is worse on human rights than a lot of European countries and your response is that we're better than the US, which I even said. You didn't even read what I said. Wonder why.
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If there's actually away that they can then maybe but I think it would be best for Canada to distance itself from the Post-British Empire in general, its noxious cultural influence of greed is the problem, and if Canada keeps identifying itself with the US, Australia, the UK, etc, it won't improve
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How could Canada possibly be a human rights leader when it abuses its indigenous peoples so severely, abuses its homeless, and doesn't even provide proper healthcare? Isn't that a human right? Canada is wildly inferior to a lot of European countries when it comes to human rights. The US is worse
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Vancouver used up most of the land on low-density sprawl and now there's barely anywhere left to build. Efforts to facilitate more density have only begun recently. So we can blame him for that. And his recent comments
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Seeing as Canadians don't really have a conscience about pollution, he will probably cave in order to maintain power. There's no indication that he particularly cares about it or understands it. So we have to hold him and the country to account
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pollution controls in Canada are generally a joke. It's not common to include forest fires as part of emissions. The truth is that Canada is an utter moral failure on this issue and most Canadians have caused far more death and suffering than the vast majority of the planet
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refused to clean up their electricity production. Buildings are far more likely to be large houses than the vast majority of the world, whereas building apartment buildings creates less pollution. For waste, Canadians are generally very wasteful. Heavy industry is poorly regulated and...
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very heavy on meat and cheese, which disproportionately cause pollution. Transportation is far more likely to talk place via car than the vast majority of other countries. Electricity is accidentally a low source because of all of the hydroelectric, but laggard provinces like Alberta and Sask have
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The sources of Canada's emissions www.canada.ca/en/environme... It seems obvious that when it comes to oil and gas, the oilsands and the enormous pollution they create (which could be greatly reduced but nobody cares about that) are a major contributor. For agriculture, the Canadian diet is...
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I'm not sure that it includes forest fires, where does it say that? The main reason why Canada and Australia are so high is because of industry and car-dependent suburban sprawl. Neither country does very much to address their emissions and both have picked the most polluting lifestyle
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Canada and Australia, partners is destroying the environment and causing far more death and suffering per capita than the vast majority of the world
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That's not an argument, I would like to see Canada cause less death and suffering to the world, and I'd like you to be honest about it
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yep Canada + all of the countries that pollute less than Canada = about a third of global emissions and if we don't get rid of those, we're fucked
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That makes sense. If most of what people are hearing is propaganda and they don't know how to tell it from proper evidence, then they'll just believe the propaganda. It seems plausible that this accounts for a lot of people
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and what kind of a monster even thinks that way? A monster who doesn't care, I think. They're just saying anything to avoid the moral reality. And propaganda about the existence of climate change is part of it. But again, if they were more intellectual at all, they'd have a harder time maintain this
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I think it's the more "practical" arguments that give it away too. A very common one is something like "Canada only produces 1.5% of global emissions, we have no impact" and it's obvious bullshit because 1.5% of emissions is an enormous amount of death and suffering for 40 million people to cause...
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Wouldn't the simpler answer be that they don't care? Look at the Trump administration's rhetoric on...well basically everything. It's easily debunkable, and the lesson is that they don't care, they know that all they need to do is say some things to obfuscate. But yes, probably not smart either