(I realize district court work is a different animal, but as an appellate litigator I would expire right on the spot if a panelist told me I was unprepared for argument by failing to read the record. Just dry up and blow away like I got Snapped right there on the spot.) - ThreadSky

gabrielmalor.bsky.social • 1 day ago

(I realize district court work is a different animal, but as an appellate litigator I would expire right on the spot if a panelist told me I was unprepared for argument by failing to read the record. Just dry up and blow away like I got Snapped right there on the spot.)

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sarahaverbeck.bsky.social•1 day ago

I used to litigate in district court (state & federal) & would have also died on the spot. Even my public defender friends with insane case loads knew the record!

thekilt.bsky.social•1 day ago

So... Is there any actual penalty for that, or are we counting on the lawyers to feel ashamed? Cos the GOP jettisoned any sense of shame a _long_ time ago.

painttherosesred.bsky.social•1 day ago

Probably depends on if they rely on the record in a signed paper to get something that isn't just embarrassing. Also, this would be a career DOD or Justice dept litigator, not a partisan appointee.

painttherosesred.bsky.social•1 day ago

I feel the same way as a trial attorney fwiw. What was the point of law school if not to train us to read hundreds of pages of materials in a coupleof days then promptly forget it all 24 hours after we are no longer responsible for knowing it

questauthority.bsky.social•1 day ago

It ain't that different a beast.

edwalker.bsky.social•1 day ago

Amen.

ravensophia.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I think the shame would have caused me to spontaneously combust.

duodenum.bsky.social•1 day ago

I am a district court litigator and I would also die on the spot

josalinger.bsky.social•1 day ago

It’s not THAT different. I would die regardless.

staceyryn.bsky.social•1 day ago

Same, my friend, same.

formertwtruser.bsky.social•1 day ago

Who is arguing for DOJ?

dairyqueen.bsky.social•1 day ago

trial or ct of appeal - same same same!

notthatproud.bsky.social•1 day ago

Nah, you'd eat shit for a few minutes and recover. It's the same for everyone.

sharonawrites.bsky.social•1 day ago

Same in district court tbh

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•1 day ago

Judge Reyes is now explaining John Rawls' Veil of Ignorance to the attorney, and I think my soul is trying to leave my body.

dankeevy.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm assuming this is not actual court, but some intricate Moot Court?

Please?

dhpljm266.bsky.social•1 day ago

military trans ban case

hurricanexyz.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm gonna need some further details on this one

crate.bsky.social•1 day ago

Will you be posting a transcript?

deadersesq.bsky.social•1 day ago

You can still resign to keep what's left of your dignity and bar license DOJ short straw puller

deadersesq.bsky.social•1 day ago

On second thought, these guys are so fucking incompetent they need to be disbarred immediately. Keep on going folks, let the Judge have their fun and you might get away with only a referral instead of contempt jail

robotclaw.info•1 day ago

I wish the judge could handle this like the police chief in some 80’s cop movie. “Alright Striker, you’re off the case! Turn in your law degree and gun.”

susanmct.bsky.social•1 day ago

It’s been a long time since I was in school, so I had to look that one up. I feel embarrassed for the attorney. AND I wish I could have been there.

helenangel.bsky.social•1 day ago

WOW! Thank you for the play-by-play. This is fascinating.

unmitigatedgaul1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Say what you will but this strategy of sending lawyers in who purposefully don’t even know what their clients are doing makes the lawyer look like a dumbass, but it also ties the system in knots. Not sure the court system is fully equipped to combat it. Delay, delay, delay.

atsnlg.bsky.social•1 day ago

I beg to differ. I believe the lawyers are actually dumbasses and are not being so purposefully.

unmitigatedgaul1.bsky.social•1 day ago

I guess by definition who else would agree to go in and get dressed down by a federal judge on purpose for not knowing what their client is actually doing.

parr.org•1 day ago

Who are these lawyers?

Are they boobs hired by the Trump administration? Or competent attorneys defending an impossible case badly?

rkfatheree.bsky.social•1 day ago

Maybe they prayed God would write their term paper.

thezuki.bsky.social•1 day ago

The problem is that to try and defend these actions, you have to already have no shame.

pcollirigger.bsky.social•21 hours ago

The MAGA movement is all about replacing brainpower with brawn. The courts are the last bastion of brainpower in our government.

alli-ward.bsky.social•1 day ago

This development alone makes me positively GLEEFUL

robin-hood.bsky.social•1 day ago

😂

teabelly.bsky.social•1 day ago

sorrykb.bsky.social•1 day ago

How fortunate for the government’s lawyer that he’s already sold his soul.

ruthbecker.bsky.social•1 day ago

😭😭😭😭😭😭

jaymarose.bsky.social•1 day ago

Via con dos equis, my friends spirit.

hairybusiness.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'd say I feel bad for whatever attorney got assigned this but lol nope. Incredible!

publiclandwonk.bsky.social•1 day ago

Do you mean to tell us that the DOD’s attorney hasn’t heard of Rawls’ veil of ignorance?!?!

wellsbe.bsky.social•1 day ago

Now that your soul has left your body, are you better able to recreate this thought experiment? Asking for a DoJ attorney.

introvertsanonymous.org•1 day ago

Just wow. I can picture the gov’t attorney crawling under his desk in shame.

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•1 day ago

They're taking a 30 minute break so the gov't team can read two of the studies the anti-trans policy cites.

So far Judge rejected DOD's suggestion that Trump v. Hawaii (Travel Ban) means Sec. Hesgeth's anti-trans tweets should not be considered in determining what animated the anti-trans policy.

400trix.bsky.social•1 day ago

Reyes is making a strong case for taking away gov’t officers social media accounts.

guitarmoog.bsky.social•1 day ago

I thought this was going to say “They're taking a 30 minute break so the gov't team can read ‘A Theory of Justice’” 😆

aaronhuertas.bsky.social•1 day ago

@michaelhobbes.bsky.social judges making them do the reading live lol

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•1 day ago

This one is back, fyi. Judge Reyes is going through one of the studies cited by the DOD trans ban policy with the gov't lawyer.

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•1 day ago

Judge Reyes is now explaining Newtonian physics to the gov't attorney. No, I am not kidding, but I have no idea what is happening because I had to handle something else for a minute.

peteypolo.bsky.social•1 day ago

At what point does the judge say ‘get the fuck out of my courtroom and don’t come back until you’re prepared. Summary judgement for the plaintiffs.”

jamesjimmmy69.bsky.social•1 day ago

Forcing them to spend a whole day of hearings fumbling and failing sounds far more humiliating and miserable tho, tbh.

rinewithoutacat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Talking about how things need to be understood in relation (she's talking that you can't pick one bit of data about trans servicemembers but not compare it to anything else, that data is relative, as she slowly goes through the study the policy relies on but that the lawyer clearly hasn't read)

rinewithoutacat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Related to the DoD policy pulling out numbers from this study, and she also noted that there's limited data, so we're comprising two specific kinds of cohorts, but that comparison means something to figure out relative meaning vs slapping a number on things and calling it a day

robertrodden.bsky.social•1 day ago

📌

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•1 day ago

OMG, she's such a nerd. She knows the theory behind warp drive travel in Star Trek.

doctorscience.bsky.social•1 day ago

I now want her on SCOTUS

oldandcranky.bsky.social•1 day ago

I love her unconditionally.

speroka.bsky.social•1 day ago

Judge Reyes was a year ahead of me in high school and she has been a bad ass nerd for decades.

pykeredrock.bsky.social•1 day ago

We need to get her on the Supreme Court immediately.

professorethical.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thanks for the updates, very entertaining.

awardedlime.bsky.social•1 day ago

I had a legal writing professor that was a Fed Magistrate, dude knew more random things that he had learned while prepping for cases. It's amazing the breadth of knowledge needed to be a competent judge. Also, this is why elected judges are terrifying.

ewanm89.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm liking her more and more :D

sdiver100.bsky.social•1 day ago

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

jons253.bsky.social•1 day ago

Star Trek warp drive, or Alcubierre's warp theory? (Alcubierre was inspired by Trek, but they're completely different - Trek's involves a hypothetical subspace, while Alcubierre's warps normal space around its bubble and requires matter with negative mass, which may not exist.)

dianecheyanne.bsky.social•1 day ago

@georgetakei.bsky.social

framplings.bsky.social•1 day ago

Wow! Is she single?

tempus.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think I love this judge my wife said she does as well

ashokhotnik.bsky.social•1 day ago

Geeks.
We're everywhere.

jcubed.bsky.social•1 day ago

teabelly.bsky.social•1 day ago

I love her!

burtonini.com•1 day ago

How on earth did the case pivot to this?! I desperately need to see a transcript.

dannybyersii.bsky.social•1 day ago

🤣🤣🤣 TBH 💯 I’m trying to piece this whole thread together so I know what to research, but this made me pee a little 🤣🤣🤣

sybilltrelawney.bsky.social•1 day ago

Reyes was my maternal grandmother’s name. Maybe we’re cousins!

justafrenchcat.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm well aware that it's really not the stake of this hearing, but will there be transcripts available? (Idk the us court system). Really sounds like an exchange I'd love to read.

justafrenchcat.bsky.social•1 day ago

🖖🏻

pennicat.bsky.social•1 day ago

I have no idea what the fuck is going on at this point in proceedings but I’m here for it.

jennvg.bsky.social•1 day ago

Dude. I already liked her.

zuma888.bsky.social•1 day ago

👀

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•1 day ago

Judge Reyes "skips to the end," says that DOD relied on the same report in implementing trans service under Biden that it now is using, she says misleadingly, to ban trans service under Trump.

She asks who she should defer to, the 2021 DOD report or the 2025 report, which she says is misleading.

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