It makes me so angry that this brilliant exceptionally qualified woman could’ve been our next President yet many people chose a disgusting piece of shit criminal instead.
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Yeah man, Trump definitely it pro Islam and anti-corrupt-right-wind-dictator Netanyahu. I'm certain leopards won't be eating plenty of face over the next few years.
I voted for Kamala Harris. But the people who were offended and disgusted by her stance on the genocide didn’t vote for Trump. Kamala didn’t earn their vote and now we have Trump. That’s on Kamala, not the voters.
Actually, a lot of them did vote for Trump as a protest vote. Her stance on the genocide was that it should stop, but no politician in this country could survive by taking an Anti-Israeli stance, especially after heinous acts of terrorism against them. Hamas did not do their people any favors.
The numbers I saw showed that the protest votes were insignificant. Trump had the same number of votes in 2020 but Kamala had 10M less than Biden. It wasn’t just the genocide, and it wasn’t just the misogyny, Kamala ran a bad campaign. Like Hillary, she chose moderate Republicans over normal people.
Sure, but you logic is flawed. Most people jaded by her stance on Palestine didn't vote for Trump, they would be apathetic and simply didn't vote. That number we cannot possibly know.
We work with the politicians we have. They threw minorities in this country under the bus over their principled stance on foreign affairs. It is on them.
it's on Kamala and the Dems for funding and arming a genocide )not so simple as "foreign Policy")and forgetting their dem base, embracing repubs like Dick Cheney. She ran a historically horrible campaign.
That's partially on the voters too. They knew exactly what would happen if Donald Trump wins and now look what where we are now & they allowed it to happen
I’m talking about her stance on continuing the policy of giving arms to Israel that allows them to continue the genocide. Doesn’t really matter if she says she’s for a two-state solution and ending the “war”. It definitely was a mess, I agree with that.
We would have had to wait for her to take office, right? Biden gets the last word (sometimes unfortunately) as POTUS. Look at how many times Trump has had the last word, ordering his MAGAs around in congress, and he's still, at this point, a private citizen. Sick situation here in our good old USA.
Doesn't matter. Trump is going to be even worse and I even know that And it's actually Congress that holds the purse strings. So it doesn't matter that she was for a two-state solution.
You & me both Ricky. I can not wrap my mind around 53% of white women being so... uninformed. I felt joy going to vote for her, the first time since Obama & even then it wasn't this awesome.
Which made the results a gut punch. Women who look like me just blew it.
Many of us women vote on a candidates *real* history...not on race or sex...we don't vote on any kind of identity. #VotesAreEarned, and she didn't earn our vote. Her history is deplorable.
Has nothing to do with either of these things. Unfortunately she was going to be forever attached to Biden and his four years. Americans compared the first Trump term against the Biden term and said I’ll take more Trump and not more of Biden. Harris didn’t distance herself from him enough.
Prices were high around the entire world because of Covid not what side of government was in office. Biden has one of the best positive records for improving all outcomes. Harris would have contributed to that in her own way. Most Americans were too stupid to realize that or sat this election out.
The argument is that when Trump win (again against a woman) Covid hit. Cheques were flying out the door with his signature on them. The uneducated simply thought that it came out of his own pocket. Biden steps in and literally rescued America after Covid more than any other country. Continued….
For the second time, no less. We’ve had two outstanding female candidates but the people in this country are so misogynistic that they would rather vote for a pile of garbage than a qualified woman.
My biggest fear is that he would lose the election. The dems pitching a flawed candidate was going to be a close election at best. And we have seen that movie before
She lost because Musk ran a huge disinformation campaign that pushed right wing BS down the throats of the young white men who had know idea of the repercussions. They soon will.....
That's the American dream! Who says that people who couldn't qualify for military service due to low IQ shouldn't be allowed to vote. I think it's poetic that the uneducated and undereducated will be the end of the union and not some "evil" outside influence.
Genocide. The reason was genocide. Stop acting like helpless baby victims beset upon by the mean, mean patriarchy and own your mistake:
Unabashed, full-throated support for the most live-streamed genocide in human history. Just because you choose to look away doesn’t mean there’s nothing to see.
If both options are all-out fascism it is the responsibility of the electorate to tear the system down and build back better. It’s literally in your precious Constitution, written by 20 year old slaveowners who drank wine for breakfast.
The height of privilege is acting like the Democrats didn’t just kill 300,000 people, starve two million more, and full-throatedly support a genocidal maniac in bombing five countries at once, risking nuclear war and decades of instability.
*America* is a clear and present danger to everyone.
Just say STOP THE STEAL
at least once and you'll feel better.
The reason you're angry is because in the back of your mind you know russian stole the elction through trumpuskutin and it sucks being told otherwise by ALL your media and seeing her laugh and laugh with a defeat and one billion in pocket
There is no Trump without Murdoch. You cannot win until you read yourself of Murdoch. Murdoch created the reality they live in. It wouldn't make sense for them to vote for anyone else except Trump.
I'm with you,this country rather have a white POS, racist, felon run the country instead of bright,brilliant,educated woman,it's disgusting! Goes to show how much this country believes in women. All they want is to keep them in kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
Wholeheartedly agree. We live in a country occupied by way too many people consumed by idiocy. It’s going to take all the creative free-thinkers working together to stand up & stay strong in the next 4yrs.
Really? Cuz it makes me SUPER angry that she isn't taking the fact that the election was stolen from her seriously. In fact, it makes me feel like she was never serious. Like she was a place holder. A distraction.
Let's not do the false equivalency thing. What is happening in Gaza is an abomination - I immediately called it genocide, and I was called unamerican & anti-Semite...but the truth is the truth...no matter how painful. But, trump is MASSIVELY more anti-Muslimism and a major terror threat to us all!!
Exactly ! I agree.. she missed the bus.. when she said there’s nothing she would like to change from Biden… that evening so called friends to say she’s crazy she’s lost the election..
I agree with you Tom, I’ve seen both Reps and Dems try to “outdo” one another on which is worse. Like c’mon. The pendulum swings in both directions, yet both sides perceive it as “it swings and hits our side, so we’re hitting the other side”. Horrible analogy but you get it.
It’s not genocidal imaginary thoughts, it’s a I voted to help save genocide with a candidate that would have been a better solution than Trump. It’s my frustration and ‘zero fucks given’ if you don’t want to help yourselves attitude.
It’s a I can’t help you if you don’t want to help yourself.
Are we really going to pretend Kamala would be better for Palestinians? Both her and Trump would support anything Israel does and they would keep sending them billions of dollars and weapons.
Both have sold their souls to the devil… the Jew One. The Criminal. Murderer. Netanyahu. Inviting him to Congress. Falling over to clap and cheer him. Both parties are slaves to Isreal lobby. They go to wars and de-establish countries on their command… like a trained Rottweiler .
He’s not going to be good to Americans let alone people sufferings a genocide in a place 70% Americans don’t know much about. But that’s the truth.. I regret her losing and terrified for most of us.. Dems need to be in fighting mode not speak conscience and policies.. he will railroad them…
Trust those of us who voted against him. We aren’t deaf to Palestinians plight. The signs were all there when he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. The fact he told Netanyahu to finish the job in Gaza.
Angry, is the US Palestinians who voted for him. 🤦🏻♀️
You absolutely are deaf to the Palestinians' plight, when you're willing to step over their dead and mutilated bodies to vote for a reprise of their suffering.
We don't trust you.
And Biden did NOTHING to undo Trump's anti-Palestinian policies.
You're okay with genocide-at-an-acceptable-pace and the fiction of a "two-state solution" which blames the indigenous people for resisting against the open theft of their land.
But how far could she have truly separated herself from Biden's policies though? Because the immediate question would be "well why aren't you doing something about it NOW? You're his second in command!"
The other option was to stop supporting Israel and Fox news calling her an anti-semite during prime time every day up till the election. It was a lose-lose and she did her best to navigate it.
Recall that Biden's (and Harris') support of providing Israel bombs despite mountains of evidence that Israel was and is committing War Crimes is a direct violation of US domestic law.
Her support of that violation of the law demonstrated she was not the alternative to Trump she needed to be.
While the 18-29 vote share fell from 17% to 14%, had Harris been more supportive of Gaza/critical of Israel, she probably would have lost a significant number of votes from pro-Israel voters.
The 30% of voters who said US support of Israel was about right favored Harris by 21 pts
And the 31% who said support for Israel was too strong and split 67% for the dems?
That's a larger percentage of voter a greater percentage of whom leant towards the dems.
2/ this was not an election about ideology -- it had nothing to do with "left v right".
it was about change -- 59% of voters disapproved of Biden's job performance, and by claiming she'd have done NOTHING differently from Biden, Harris promised voters 4 more years of the same. And they said NO.
I don't disagree.
I am saying that support for Genocide was an example of Harris proudly promising to do nothing differently from Biden. And it was a CRIMINAL example to boot, which removed the moral high ground when compared to Trump.
Especially to voters where Genocide was THE issue.
Dude, anyone who sat home because they thought it was better to protest and risk getting the 34 time convicted felon who will continue the genocide rather than stop it should have their head cracked opened so the rest of us can see the empty cavity. Now we'll have genocide here too.
For those who voted based on genocide in Palestine, which is literally half the world away, why would they be morons and choose the option that was going to be both worse for Palestine and for America? One issue voting is the stupidest stance you can have.
I reject your dismissal of those who see Genocide support as a dealbreaker.
What is "moronic" is to support Genocide when Harris' base is begging her to break from Biden's policy. Especially when that support is a violation of US law.
🤦♂️If your options are blistering hot soup or freezing cold soup with cyanide in it, it doesn't really matter if you take the hot soup, it'll eventually cool down, the cold soup will have cyanide in it either way. By choosing not to vote or putting in a protest vote, the morons doomed us all.
Thank you for the wishes of good luck. And to you (well, us), if Biden/Harris and Trump were what was presented to you as a "choice" for national leadership.
Biden and Harris never said that they wanted to level the Gaza strip. I know they provided money to Israel to purchase bombs, but they provided some food for Palestinians. The Israeli PM was giddy when Trump won bc they knew he would be more extreme.
Trump had multiple bankruptcies and had to go to Russia for loans because the American banks stopped lending him money because he stopped paying back his loans. And he is a convicted felon, sexual assaulter and traitor to this country.
Then Joe Biden should have made her president, when his polling dropped in June. Thank Joe Biden for her loss and Joe Biden for Trump's rise. He's on vacation in Africa, right now.
It was really really hard to vote for the non-rapist it seems. Even with the "genocide" angle many leftist took on her, a literal rapist still seemed like a better choice to them. I don't wanna start saying that lefties don't give a fuck about rape victims, but holy fuck does it look that way
People with good conscience don't let a literal rapist into their highest level of government. Like full stop, let's stop protecting the rapist please.
Yep, and it’s only gonna get worse under Trump. But that’s just part of a bigger mess—healthcare, rights for trans people and women, press freedom, freedom from religion. This isn’t black-and-white; it’s grey, messy, and lives are on the line. Civic duty under capitalism? Still unethical.
This is why I’m not a Democrat any more and can’t take Dems seriously.
Have you SEEN Gaza?? How could it get worse? They get MORE money for bombs? They’re already bombing Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, and Turkey. What could anyone do to escalate more than Biden?
I know, everytime I see a picture of Kamala, I wonder what might have been. The first woman to be the President. It could have been such a proud moment for America, but it appears many of the voters would rather elect a 78 year old illiterate moron with no ethics or sense of morality.
Point is, they're both part of the same economic class that abandoned the working class. almost every poll to who didn't vote this election has the same sentiment. I know trump is a worse candidate than harris, but you need to understand the issues, not just find the least worse options.
Bingo.
Also part of the same class that happily participates in Israel's Genocide of Palestinians, in contravention to international law and US domestic law (Leahy Act/Logan Act).
And blind to how bringing the Cheneys on stage wasn't going to help them be seen as a real alternative to the slide of the American state for the average Joe and Jane.
‘Understand the issues’-ha! All who voted for lying tRump (and those who didn’t) are about to learn Americans will have greater issues very soon. FAFO-buckle up!
Many of us chose to trust the Republicans and generals like General Milley, chief of staff John Kelly, and the many other former Trump cabinet members, plus hundreds of other Republicans who said that he is unqualified after witnessing it themselves. I never heard anything like that about Harris.
Yes, so very true. Even with a decent staff he obtained the results we all know, now with the clowns he is picking let's see what happens. So far Russian media routinely reports on Putin being in favor of his cabinet picks.
Yeah brilliant is a stretch
She was a ruthless prosecutor who put away innocent people!!
• George Gage’s Case: Harris’s office opposed overturning the conviction of George Gage, even after it was revealed that prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence in his trial.
We can't make everyone happy. Some thought she was weak on crime; others thought she was an executioner. Striking the perfect balance? Where's the answer. Surely, not with Donald Trump. And since we had to have an election, and we respect the constitution, here we are with a very bad outcome.
What I can only be concerned about one thing? Do I have to list all my concerns to appease you or something ? I’m just so sorry my comment wasn’t up to par with your standards. 🤦♂️
What does race have to do with it? Is his opinion somehow less valid because of the color of his skin? Does his whiteness change the facts of the case?
Nope. Has zero bearing his opinion was my point. Someone’s skin tone makes no difference when making an argument, presenting and opinion or presenting facts.
The difference is a matter of one leader being willing to listen to protests because she has a vested interest in keeping the American people’s approval of her, and a selfish child of a man who has a cult that will approve of him no matter what he says or does.
Shouldn’t you be on X rather than here? How is it explicitly untrue? Just because you said so? Genocide is the crime of crimes. Harris has been a willing participant in a government that enabled it fully. She doesn’t deserve many tears.
She said she would secure the border and provide a path to citizenship. She did not say she would build detention camps and engage in mass deportation.
Nah. White Men who voted for Biden in '20 dipped on Harris in '24. That's THE story and... No, it's just fucking silly to think those White Males 35-65 years old ever gave two shits about Gaza or M4A.
Hard Core Lefties and Progressive Policy had almost zero effect.
Listen to the Daniel Pinchbeck interview with Thom Hartman posted today on Daniel's substack to understand the multiple reasons behind Harris's loss. Hartman provides insight from the point of view of the last 200 years of American history. https://danielpinchbeck.substack.com/p/the-state-of-disunion
Give Americans a choice between smart and idiot and the media will suggest that intelligence is elitist and out of touch so that most Americans choose the idiot.
That’s because it’s easier to believe a lie than the truth lies can be dramatized as the truth. 🇺🇸 is so much into drama that they don’t know the difference between reality and fantasy.
I'd say inheriting a billion bucks and shitting in a golden toilet and never ever working a regular job is elitist. But somehow Don has convinced people that salt of the earth just means being a bigoted rapey asshole.
That's exactly what happened on November 5, 2024 and the days prior to the election cumulated with all the misinformation propaganda lies was put out onto social media about Kamala Harris by right-wing conservatives conspiracy theorists MAGA cult followers
Yes, they elected a person that will sit longer to have his face sprayed ORANGE then pay attention running a country. Buy stock in adult diapers and MAGA hat drool cup attachments for the sake of the Orange Old Fart.
She was helping kill Palestinians! What is so 'brilliant' about a genocidal maniac, who said we will continue to support israel in killing Palestinians. Fack. 🤦♀️WHERE THE FACK IS YOUR HUMANITY?! this is why the US is going in the shithole.
I think the thing that bugs me the most,is that the Media was such a big part of making Trump’s insanity look normal,while attacking the kindness & goodness of #KamalaHarris & #JoeBiden! It’s infuriating!
harris's campaign pretended that everything was fine and good while people are suffering just to get by. every politician in this gods forsaken world is a corporate shill and y'all need to wake the fuck up to that. capitalism needs to end.
Yeah and totally gaslighted the plight of genocide strikes Gaza. And kept supporting with ammunition and support to Israel govt for literally killing 40 thousand innocent civilians and babies in the name of khamaas
Because white supremacy is a helluva marketing scheme and it is the last bastion of privilege that has a death grip on this its last century. Something is trying to be born. But it’s going to take more than anger to birth it. It’s going to need revolution.
And equally pathetic, or even worse, is that approx 1/3 (or roughly 90 million) eligible voters, didn’t even f’ing vote!! That’s a spit in the face of every veteran and servant of democracy…whether they be dead, alive, or wounded. Makes me sick.
But it doesn’t explain why the majority of white women voted for Trump, a convicted rapist and felon, not including those with 4 year college degrees, who overwhelmingly voted for Harris — college educated men also overwhelmingly voted for Harris.
We can cry about the injustice and the possibilities lost for the next four years, but that will do nothing. The only option is to push back on the attacks on the environment and people, as well as the other nefarious plans the new regime has up it sleeve. We'll prevail, it will take work. Together.
Eh I only voted for her because she wouldn't dismantle the US and I'd get to vote again, she's still a puppet of iSSrael and genocide among other things.
There's an illogical part of me that wishes the Dems should run a competent black woman every election cycle just so conservatives keep putting their dick in a bear trap every single time.
"...exceptionally qualified..." for what? If Biden's brain is addled, she has not demonstrated any functioning brain at all. In consequence, her supreme qualification is for a cabal of shadowy 'advisors' to run the Presidency in her name. Is that what 70 million Americans voted for?
She stood for election under the rules, and lost. When you have an two-candidate election, one of them will always lose. Get over it, and be grateful that, at least, you live in something approaching a democracy.
Not for long, we won't. That's what is so infuriating. We had an incredibly qualified candidate who would work FOR the people to make things better for the vast majority of our country. Instead, we got Satan who wants to be a dictator just like his master, Putin.
Qualified. Would have been a perfectly good president, holding back autocracy...but I don't need umpteen photos of her beaming ear to ear right now. Yeah, I'm grumpy.
Or we could have had a primary! How many presidential elections have the Dems won since superdelegates were installed? Both parties work for the same big donors and people want change.
Why?
Why did people prefer a convicted criminal, a rapist with a bright orange spray tan and verging on dementia?
Stop blaming people for voting for him and start asking why the Dems were considered even worse.
Look in the mirror...
It was never about policy any more than it was about emails or national security. This country will literally take any sick pos man over any woman, no matter how qualified or great her policies. This country hates the shit out of women.
Hey don't say the quiet part out loud like that. you might be a topic on a bro centric podcast where they all talk down to their wives and think they're all alpha or some shit.
Couldn’t agree more. I went to several Harris/Walz rallies, the energy and mood was positively brilliant! I really thought we were going to win this. Sadly, I ignored the population of stupid, selfish, racist, misogynistic morons, who faithfully vote against their own interests.
You can already do one for the 1,500 children they separated and didn't give back to their parents plus the preventable Cov deaths. The people that died because Biden had to follow tRump's Afghanistan withdrawal. The women that are dying because of the repeal of Roe v. Wade.
We should demand a recount.
Elon helped steal the election. That's the only reason Trump allowed Elon to get to any position of power in his cabinet. Trump owes it to Elon as well as the Russian oligarchs who helped steal the election.
Let's demand a recount. https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked
Has nothing to do with either of these things. Unfortunately she was going to be forever attached to Biden and his four years. Americans compared the first Trump term against the Biden term and said I’ll take more Trump and not more of Biden. Harris didn’t distance herself from him enough.
The brainwashed lefties and their party mates know this, but choose copium since that's what they do best IRL. On the other hand, American workers, taxpayers, and hard-working citizens saw right through the blue facade of corporate shills and sexist bigotry. They tried to be Trump, and failed
This repugnant individual has turned his ugly face on the UK. To those with half a brain, the bilge he spews is laughable but we have more than our fair share of fuckwits who become dangerous when fed nonsense.
The green party explicitly said they wanted Kamala to lose & it was their job to ensure it. So they did everything they could to tear Kamala down within the progressive movement & that helped Trump.
She was the lesser of two evils and not a good pick.
More centre-right economics. No campaign finance reform. No Medicare For All. No plans to substantially challenge Israeli genocide. The list goes on and on.
Legislation can't be passed without the party on the other side of the aisle. The MAGAs were only interested in kissing Trump's ass and obeying his every whim, which will always be self-serving. The MAGAs thrive on chaos through Trump. We're headed for a theocratic oligarchy here in our USA.
Anyone who thought she'd win in America was dreaming. Has nothing to do with her capability. Our culture hates women/hates non-whites, so what do you think we'd do with someone who's both? HRC was 1 of the most qualified candidates ever, we still allowed her win to be stolen. 🤷♀️
"many people" is an understatement. It's the vast majority when you include people that didn't vote to prevent this. What does it say about a countrie's citizens when they allow a felon, rapist, con-artist and insurrectionist to become president?
It's also important to remember that 14-16 million Democrats couldn't be bothered to get off their asses and vote. Had they done their civic duty, we wouldn't be here.
Same here. I can't understand it. We have early voting, absentee ballots, & several states do mail-in voting as a choice or by default. There was no excuse. My daughter & her twins work every Tuesday. They voted using absentee ballots.
Non-voters are at least as responsible as the cult.
All because we've arrived at that place where too many people gave up the right to think for themselves. They accepted the propaganda as truth. We are facing real life Orwellian America. And we need to turn the "believers" into "verifiers" and fact-checkers. Otherwise...
2/ instead of defending his decision to pardon his son?
What kind of IDIOT takes the focus off of the horrorshow that is Trump's plans for the next four years, and puts it on HIMSELF and his broken promise not to pardon his son?
Biden should have pardoned Hunter -- on Jan 20, at 9AM.
She does a photo op in a library, the book she is holding is prob upside down and you pillars of mental fortitude eat this crap up and actually think she just happened to be in a library and that this photo is candid. Oh, and yea, your comment is more toxicity you claim is all over on X.
He does a photo op outside the cathedral in DC, holding a bible upside down, (think Satan at an altar) asking the military to shoot protestors in the legs! And he was POTUS at the time. He's POTUS-to-be now. I'd say we're in a heap of trouble real soon. She's experienced, having been elected 3x.
Stop believing everything you hear. Trump lied about FEMA corruption in NC. Every US POTUS has encouraged congress to continue to fund FEMA. The MAGAs in congress voted against it.
Is anybody still in a denial stupor about Trump being president again? Wouldn't be cool if mosad hatched one of their plans on a few bad men? Just like the beepers. McD's burgers??
Was it a corrupt election? Was it because she is a woman? Is there an extra-terrestrial gray civilization that has created the outcome in order to make it painfully obvious that person with no morality, no decency and lacking all empathy and compassion should never be a leader of a nation?
She’s a pig who put people behind bars for missing school.
As bad as trump was I’ll never understand why libs think this product of our for profit prison system was anything but a pig.
We began to normalize the MAGA Messiah’s behavior, which was emulated by his minions, that was normally considered grotesque, cruel, vicious, immoral, threatening, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, bigoted, seditious, heinous, cowardly, narcissistic, corrupt, criminal, despicable and destructive.
Agreed, people is going to lose lots of public money that's going to go the pockets of the rich, time will he lost for policy advances, the missed opportunities, and of course the lost capabilities in the agencies that are going to be less prepared for any troubles coming in the future.
Yes. But economic power, money, greed, plus lust for the power to express hate and bigotry, are powerful incentives for many voters in the USA, who likely just didn't care how exceptional or qualified the lady was, or what a disgusting pos criminal their own candidate was.
We, America and the whole world, perhaps even the solar system, is heading back in time where
1) men own women
2) women can’t vote
3) mandatory motherhood
4) can’t work
5) bible reading, no math, science, facts
6) death by murder, childbirth, illness, injury
Where in America
1) can a man own a woman?
2) women can’t vote?
3) is motherhood is mandatory?
4) people can’t work?
5) where public education doesn’t teach math, science, and facts?
This is what those of us in swing states were subject to. You honestly couldn't tell the difference between republican and dem ads. I said she would lose if they didn't stop pandering to Republicans.
That campaign was a failure of epic proportions. Blaming voters ain't it
i think what they mean is that she didn't appeal to more left leaning people. keep in mind that America's "center" is many other countries far right. she's a moderate Democrat and took care to target moderates instead of the more left leaning people. yeah, democrats are kinda just republican lite.
92% of black women, 88% of the Jewish community, and 85% of the LGBTQ+ community had no problem doing what needed to be done. If some idiots on the left need to be coddled to into voting to protect democracy, they might as well vote for Trump.
I'm part of that majority of the LGBTQ community. and I agree, the idiots that didn't vote because she's "just as bad" as Trump are a lost cause. I'm just saying that America's right is so far right that our left is viewed as center or right by much of the rest of the world
Tim Walz was the only good thing about her campaign. She was up by 7 points when they were using him. But they put Walz on the shelf and started parading around Liz Chaney because the Democratic Party is just Neo Liberals and don’t care about you. I voted for her but her campaign sucked.
Oh yeah sure, let's stick our heads in the sand and say it's all just because of hate... Abandon the working class, appeal to moderates only, and provide only the milktoast-iest policies, and wonder why we keep losing votes. Why selfevaluate our position when we can just blame it all on hate right?
Do you actually believe she would have had more votes if she were more leftist? You don’t mention the economy once & you’re overthinking the obvious to fit your bias.
Well yeah. Most Americans want healthcare, access to abortion, revamped infrastructure, etc. but Harris's campaign was just too weak. The Dems only really promised more of the status quo, whereas Trump and his sycophants promise radical change. Change is what sells, not pandering to moderates.
It doesn't matter how she ran her campaign or who she picked for VP. They wanted that ignorant, lying criminal to be their president. They're in a cult. Full stop.
Her campaign was fine. Low-info swing voters went to Trump bc they viewed him as an outsider who would fix all of America’s economic problems and make China pay for it. Tough to compete against that level of ignorance and gullibility.
The economy after we have breaking records on Black Friday and people flying everywhere for the Thanksgiving holiday. Go tell that to somebody else. Lol.
Seems that way. I’m privileged enough to have confidence that I’ll make it through the next 4 years without much too much hardship. Theoretically, it’ll be harder for non-voters to stay home on Election Day after they’ve lost their homes. Silver linings.
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The turkeys voted for Thanksgiving.
I'll be blaming anyone who didn't vote for Kamala.
'brilliant and qualified' Genocide Apologist
..america deserves what it got
Which made the results a gut punch. Women who look like me just blew it.
They chose possibly the worst ever candidate over possibly one of the best ever.
Unabashed, full-throated support for the most live-streamed genocide in human history. Just because you choose to look away doesn’t mean there’s nothing to see.
“Lesser evil” voting GOT us here. Stop doing it.
*America* is a clear and present danger to everyone.
at least once and you'll feel better.
The reason you're angry is because in the back of your mind you know russian stole the elction through trumpuskutin and it sucks being told otherwise by ALL your media and seeing her laugh and laugh with a defeat and one billion in pocket
It’s bigger
But she couldn't hear the voices begging BEGGING her to separate from Biden's policies.
Genocidin' Biden and Killer Camilla.
And yes, Trump is awful. Both support Genocide.
No wonder Democratic base stayed at home rather than vote.
It’s a I can’t help you if you don’t want to help yourself.
Angry, is the US Palestinians who voted for him. 🤦🏻♀️
We don't trust you.
And Biden did NOTHING to undo Trump's anti-Palestinian policies.
Just like the kids in cages at the southern border.
You just going to pretend and ignore the clown that’s coming in who believes in one state solution?
But he won't.
2. I believe in a one-state solution; PALESTINE. Israel is a genocidal settler-colony and we need to close the chapter on colonialism.
she could have promised an Arms Embargo and won the election
America deserves what they got
But not because of Gaza Had she spoken out about it, she would have lost more votes than she gained.
(and before you have a hissy fit -- I didn't cast a vote for President because of Gaza.)
You sure about that?
But that graphic is meaningless. I mean, Biden wanted a ceasefire and an end to violence in Gaza. And "peace" will always poll well.
The issue was US support for Israel, and in the election, only 31% of voters thought it was too strong.
Also paul:
https://bsky.app/profile/paul-lukasiak.bsky.social/post/3lcftp5rim227
you provided something meaningless (support for a ceasefire when BIden supported a ceasefire) as if it was a measure of support for Biden's policies.
I provided evidence of where the public actually stood on support of Israel under Biden.
I don't agree. The youth skew heavily against Genocide, and they were the vote that she needed to come out in droves. They didn't.
Furthermore, regardless of where one stands on Palestine, it was indicative of Harris' unconditional support of Biden's rightward policies.
Her support of that violation of the law demonstrated she was not the alternative to Trump she needed to be.
While the 18-29 vote share fell from 17% to 14%, had Harris been more supportive of Gaza/critical of Israel, she probably would have lost a significant number of votes from pro-Israel voters.
The 30% of voters who said US support of Israel was about right favored Harris by 21 pts
That's a larger percentage of voter a greater percentage of whom leant towards the dems.
https://bsky.app/profile/losturuk.bsky.social/post/3lcftimh7us2w
Biden was in favor of a ceasefire at that point. He's always been in favor of an end to Gazan violence.
But on Israel's terms.
Support for Israel has always been the question. and only 31% of voters felt US support was too strong.
it was about change -- 59% of voters disapproved of Biden's job performance, and by claiming she'd have done NOTHING differently from Biden, Harris promised voters 4 more years of the same. And they said NO.
I am saying that support for Genocide was an example of Harris proudly promising to do nothing differently from Biden. And it was a CRIMINAL example to boot, which removed the moral high ground when compared to Trump.
Especially to voters where Genocide was THE issue.
For those who were voting based on Genocide in Palestine, Harris v Trump was like choosing between cyanide flavors.
I reject your dismissal of those who see Genocide support as a dealbreaker.
What is "moronic" is to support Genocide when Harris' base is begging her to break from Biden's policy. Especially when that support is a violation of US law.
Thank you for the wishes of good luck. And to you (well, us), if Biden/Harris and Trump were what was presented to you as a "choice" for national leadership.
And yes!
Second, “lefties” (people with a conscience) stayed home or voted third party. Learn the goddamn difference between that and a Trump vote.
We don’t have third parties because the “Two” keep it that way.
They. Are. Doing. A holocaust. They’re doing it right now, Biden is still president. Right tf now they’re trying to send another $20 bil.
Have you SEEN Gaza?? How could it get worse? They get MORE money for bombs? They’re already bombing Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, and Turkey. What could anyone do to escalate more than Biden?
This your “lesser” evil we’re talking of.
Biden Harris are in effect liberal Republicans.
But Trump is so bad
Also part of the same class that happily participates in Israel's Genocide of Palestinians, in contravention to international law and US domestic law (Leahy Act/Logan Act).
???????
She was a ruthless prosecutor who put away innocent people!!
• George Gage’s Case: Harris’s office opposed overturning the conviction of George Gage, even after it was revealed that prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence in his trial.
Burn down the white patriarchy.
And this is why we have Trump. Again.
You can’t get out of your own way.
Like, yeah buddy you did it. They’re WAY better off now, you really made a point, there!
Nah. White Men who voted for Biden in '20 dipped on Harris in '24. That's THE story and... No, it's just fucking silly to think those White Males 35-65 years old ever gave two shits about Gaza or M4A.
Hard Core Lefties and Progressive Policy had almost zero effect.
https://danielpinchbeck.substack.com/p/the-state-of-disunion
we must make our own wall
But it doesn’t explain why the majority of white women voted for Trump, a convicted rapist and felon, not including those with 4 year college degrees, who overwhelmingly voted for Harris — college educated men also overwhelmingly voted for Harris.
It's something education and critical thinking - something demonized in the US - helps to counter.
Including the liberal arts that have slowly been removed from each generation as they get younger.
Why did people prefer a convicted criminal, a rapist with a bright orange spray tan and verging on dementia?
Stop blaming people for voting for him and start asking why the Dems were considered even worse.
Look in the mirror...
Til my dying day.
Elon helped steal the election. That's the only reason Trump allowed Elon to get to any position of power in his cabinet. Trump owes it to Elon as well as the Russian oligarchs who helped steal the election.
Let's demand a recount.
https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked
(For those who don't follow UK politics, if Blair was bad his friend Miliband was SO much worse...)
That bs you green party nutsos spout is why we are no longer a democracy.
No matter how much we beg of you to choose democracy you refuse to and thus we no longer have one.
And it wasn't just about the votes.
The green party explicitly said they wanted Kamala to lose & it was their job to ensure it. So they did everything they could to tear Kamala down within the progressive movement & that helped Trump.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/a-big-seattle-name-is-in-the-election-battlegrounds-helping-trump/
The electoral college.
Plus there was concentrated effort by the green party to demoralize Democrats and keep them home or skip the race.
On top of the bomb threats in every swing state, it was enough.
More centre-right economics. No campaign finance reform. No Medicare For All. No plans to substantially challenge Israeli genocide. The list goes on and on.
Shitlibs are the reason for your own downfall.
You think her plans were centre right? Republicans called it socialism.
M4A needs a payer system. It doesn't have the votes in Congress to pass.
What f'ing plans can ANYONE do to force Bibi to end the war & go to prison?
Her plans were centre right. The Republicans call anything to their left socialism. That's not fact.
A successful campaign on M4A would have delivered the votes in congress to pass it.
Withdrawing US support would have forced Bibi to halt.
No. She is a pragmatic liberal progressive.
No, M4A doesn't have the votes to pass the Senate. You need 60.
BS. Bibi faces prison. He needs the war.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/dnc-election-2024-harris-walz/card/gop-knocks-kamala-harris-s-economic-ideas-as-pure-socialism--PnpHxmWTccr9dQ77b8VS
The USA has been an oligarchy for centuries already, and has been heading towards theocracy for decades now.
These are not new developments, though I'm glad it's on more people's radar now.
Constitutional law says that everything that has to do with THE BUDGET has to go through The House first.
It is why some bills pass Senate then go back to House then Senate to POTUS desk.
You cannot run the govt on EOs.
You ever read her policy plans?
It was extremely progressive.
She was a liberal prosecutor. She created reforms that went nationwide.
Do you even know who she is and not the bs you were lied about?
And now you have a fascist and no more democracy. Proud of yourself?
I'm a leftist not a neo liberal. That means not a pro capitalist, pro war, pro genocide, pro employers, pro drug war, pro border, pro jail, person.
These are all her reactionary policies from her website.
You go to war with the army you have, not the one you want.
You choose to be an idiot who won't make some compromises for the greater good.
We are a center left or even right of center nation. In order to get elected you need a coalition.
Or a sharp-as-a-tack businessman.
But no.....
Non-voters are at least as responsible as the cult.
Propaganda is major contributor
At least not without leadership that understands the problem, and how to address it.
Progressives need to focus on the PREREQUISITE to the change they want. And that is a change in leadership.
I mean, imagine if Biden was fighting against Trump's nominees,
What kind of IDIOT takes the focus off of the horrorshow that is Trump's plans for the next four years, and puts it on HIMSELF and his broken promise not to pardon his son?
Biden should have pardoned Hunter -- on Jan 20, at 9AM.
As bad as trump was I’ll never understand why libs think this product of our for profit prison system was anything but a pig.
We, America and the whole world, perhaps even the solar system, is heading back in time where
1) men own women
2) women can’t vote
3) mandatory motherhood
4) can’t work
5) bible reading, no math, science, facts
6) death by murder, childbirth, illness, injury
1) can a man own a woman?
2) women can’t vote?
3) is motherhood is mandatory?
4) people can’t work?
5) where public education doesn’t teach math, science, and facts?
SHE NEEDS TO START A KAMALA HARRIS PAC!
We need something other than the DNC.
What do you think Musk was doing with X?
How'd that work out for her?
That campaign was a failure of epic proportions. Blaming voters ain't it
Btw, I voted for the dumb bitch. Did I have a choice?
It’s a job for people who know better to educate without contempt or hostility
I don't think you are making the argument you want to make.
SELF-EVIDENT should be obvious to all. Yes it's really upsetting & disgusting.