We made a deliberate choice as a nation, until now, not to have a police state. We siloed off federal data and put in place laws, regulations, policies and internal norms to prevent the federal government from putting together everything it knows about you into one place. Trump is ending all that. - ThreadSky

reichlinmelnick.bsky.social • 8 hours ago

We made a deliberate choice as a nation, until now, not to have a police state. We siloed off federal data and put in place laws, regulations, policies and internal norms to prevent the federal government from putting together everything it knows about you into one place.

Trump is ending all that.

Reposted from Phil Lewis

The U.S. Postal Service has quietly begun assisting Trump's 'mass deportation' effort, sources and records show

www.washingtonpost.com/business/202...

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kivascout.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Meanwhile, dem leadership thinks 1) a very strong letter from Schumer and 2) having Jeffries and Booker put on a faux sit-in is fighting for democracy. 🤦‍♀️

dropthet.bsky.social•8 hours ago

The plebeians will vote them all right back into office anyway. We had a 97% reelection rate in 2024 Congressional elections in spite of harshly negative approval ratings for those politicians.

They don't change because they don't have to.

kernighan.bsky.social•8 hours ago

And cutting funding for abortion providers by 55%.

https://bsky.app/profile/jezebeldotcom.bsky.social/post/3lnya4decmc2u

medievalhistory.bsky.social•6 hours ago

What can they do? This isn't their fault, this is the voting public's fault. Short of insurrection they have no cards to play.

magpie.tips•4 hours ago

So what do you think they should do? Fuck all?

jjinandtonic.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Draw more cards [act like an actual opposition party and stake out a strong alternative platform while opposing every admin proposal]

okiefrommuskogee.bsky.social•4 hours ago

And DOGE and Palantir will supercharge this effort in a very very dark way.

cogbarn.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Bank accounts are next.

cindymab.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I’ve been worried about this for a while. How do we protect against this?

clevelandbrowns.bsky.social•6 hours ago

No you don’t understand the forgotten people who voted for this didn’t know and we have to reach out to them.

minutesdrag.bsky.social•7 hours ago

This is fucking outrageous!! 🤬

sjoneswastaken.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Not sure where you live, but if it's in the US, you sound incredibly white and incredibly naïve. 🙄

erichluepke.bsky.social•4 hours ago

There is a huge difference between the state/local police state familiar to most Americans who are oppressed, and a federal police state. I don't mean to diminish how bad ICE has been in the past but there is a massive avenue open for things getting worse.

baddielynn.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Well that's ahistorical bullshit.

baddielynn.bsky.social•7 hours ago

This specific police state has been in the works for 30 years. The US loves being a police state and was during slavery, it was when national guards were shooting at striking workers, it was when the House on Unamerican Activities was in operation, and it was when the Satanic Panic happened

sassalesvonscales.bsky.social•7 hours ago

https://youtu.be/1xD2ItImFEU?si=pyLSIpVRS_YQs_K8

Again for people in the back, what are songs like this about again?

Fucking christ with allies like these erasing history who needs enemies.

oneoneder.bsky.social•7 hours ago

🙄

baddielynn.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Got some actual commentary on this?

conjurial.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Well, if it’s just same old, same old, why should I bestir myself opposing it?

This kind of soft denialism is support for Trump

baddielynn.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Because we can be better. We should be better. If we were stuck in a neverending basketball game and things only get better if we have the lead, not shooting because we've never had the lead isn't the way forward. But we have to be honest about what the score is or we'll keep doing the same shit.

sajallday.bsky.social•6 hours ago

So the response to learning of a existing injustice is to ignore it? What line of logic even is this?

kinokocat.transsexual.gay•7 hours ago

uh, because when you realize it and the injustice it represents your morals hopefully engage in a logical process leading you to move past your passive acceptance and ignorance of it up to this point, override them, and allow you to act and speak on the subject in a more moral manner in the future.

oneoneder.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Yeah, you're full of shit just like Trump supporters, see him as status quo because it's more comfortable and self-flattering

baddielynn.bsky.social•7 hours ago

No, it's horrifying and why I'm so fucking angry. He's not some aberration from some glorious past of peace and good times. He's a symptom that keeps flaring up because we look at the symptoms as aberrations instead of systemic.

oneoneder.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Like in the post above, you pronounce "the police state has been in the works for 30 years" then point to disparate things across centuries, none of which are from last 30
years.

boltsj.bsky.social•5 hours ago

This attitude makes you just as bad as any maga hat wearing nazi with buyers remorse over the tariffs. Fix your heart or die.

airplaney.bsky.social•8 hours ago

For those who have to explain to others what fascism is,
well, this is it...

jvarrige.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Hate this so very much.

aviagrafik.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I watched from afar in 2016 a non American in a small South Pacific nation when he won I turned and said to my wife “this will all end in a Fourth Reich and no one can stop it“ she said “don’t be stupid”…

hobogue.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Some day we will regret this

cathoderituals.bsky.social•5 hours ago

This isn’t untrue, but it needs to be said that cops and feds have been doing crimes, planting evidence, lying, murdering unarmed people, starting gangs, and other shady shit for years. Black and Indigenous people were always right, it’s just now white people are starting to fully contend with that.

dropthet.bsky.social•8 hours ago

There are people that don't want this, there are people that do want this, & there are the rest who don't care either way. And the lone way to get any of the latter 2 groups to change their mind is for some kind of calamitous impact on them personally.

thepissedoldlady.bsky.social•8 hours ago

You, my friend, are absolutely correct!! Sadly.

re2do.bsky.social•7 hours ago

👆🏾👇🏾”Hasta ahora, como país decidimos no tener un estado policial. Manteníamos la data federal separada, con leyes, regulaciones y normas internas que evitaban que el gobierno central pudiera juntar toda tu información en un solo lugar.

Trump está acabando con todo eso.”

rlab53.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Another group of decent people forced to violate the Constitutional rights of the public.

changegamer.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Nothing to see here except the assembly of apparatus of a police state!
They will ask to se your papers and won’t say please!
Plenty of maga law enforcement to staff your new gestapo!
Next stop martial law!

raflw.bsky.social•6 hours ago

He's ending it via E.O.s which, if Congressional Republicans gave even 1/16th of a shit about, would have little effect because they can't (usually) overturn a raft of laws.
But the system is fundamentally broken, so 🤷🏼‍♂️.

katelynstarrpdx.bsky.social•8 hours ago

This is very bad.

adamantiumant.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Trump ending all that is also a deliberate choice we made as a nation. Nothing will happen to this country that it doesn't richly deserve.

jonhelldriver.bsky.social•4 minutes ago

when we get our government back, we need to roll back the militarization and mission creep to pre-9/11 levels.

politicalpat.bsky.social•33 minutes ago

Federal databases may be firewalled++, but techs with privileged access who build AI frontends, provide systems integration, and monitor cybersecurity have great oversight.

Hint: Online internet access wasn't around in 1970. The stated plan and justification is false - an excuse for data theft.

joeypeters.bsky.social•1 hour ago

That's not true at all. We have been steadily building a police state my whole adult life and the democrats gladly went along with it the whole way. Sometimes they'd balk at the worst excesses, but they voted for the Patriot Act. They built Cop City.

kwalk2024.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Shame on them.

bobonthecouch.bsky.social•2 hours ago

But they couldn't find my lost mail!

lisamoran.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Weren’t the conservatives the ones that were so mad about the “patriot act” and that the government could get notice of what books you’re checking out from a library? How quaint.

uncommongrace25.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Reading Dream Hotel now/- the horrifying future awaits

icasttrish.bsky.social•7 hours ago

does this violate privacy laws or?

khwalz.bsky.social•6 hours ago

This Doug Tulino, acting Postmaster General, seems to be really bad news.

lfillingham.bsky.social•7 hours ago

The IRS was a five alarm fire for that, kept the most separate the most deliberately, it's really all downhill after that.

zetm.bsky.social•6 hours ago

When they finish with the immigrants the will start to devour the American people.

janicereynolds.bsky.social•7 hours ago

This is just plain wrong!! How do we fight this, bitch to,ect! That goes right to your local mail carrier WTF???

dodgeintercept1.bsky.social•6 hours ago

with assistance from weak men and women

poouliinhanawi.bsky.social•8 hours ago

And giving it to Palantir

silencedoogood.bsky.social•5 hours ago

On November 5, 2024, 68% of voters made a deliberate choice to have a police state. I'm under the impression that they are still happy with their choice.

That might be good for them as they probably have relinquished their freedom to make a choice.

clashingflannel.bsky.social•5 hours ago

I would be hesitant to send any money/remittance/money order to another country through the postal service.

thelifeofrifer.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Don’t worry, this is what all the 2A absolutists have been stockpiling their guns for. To resist the coming police state! Right? Right???

bloomlove.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Tampering with mail is a Federal Offense

cogbarn.bsky.social•7 hours ago

So is aiding and abetting a violent attempted coup against the U.S. government, and yet here we are.

sylviaulloa.bsky.social•3 hours ago

This is terrifying and if we ever get these people out, we need to put laws in place where this can never happen again.

bluebird1010.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Wow, he is forcing them I know but wasn't Dejoy let go also, new yes man in place, sad.

bershod.bsky.social•7 hours ago

To all of you who thought re-electing a twice impeached inciter of an insurrection convicted felon was a good idea-FUCK YOU

d8-n8h.bsky.social•7 hours ago

I second that! 🤬

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The Democrats bipartisanly helped construct the police state, it wasn't Democrats saying to abolish ICE, defund police, end cop city, rein them in.

defund-and-abolish.bsky.social•4 hours ago

If the Republican Party hadn't nominated him we wouldn't be here. This stupid fucking finger pointing is asinine.

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Guess who pushed them to nominate him? Dems.
https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

defund-and-abolish.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Yeah, it's definitely the fault of the Dems.

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•3 hours ago

At least 50% of everything happening, yes.

mjo2724.bsky.social•2 hours ago

A lot of Dem hating lefties (and bots) out here who are going to be useless in fighting fascists. They have no idea about the necessity of coalition building or how to accomplish anything serious in the political sphere. Either we all hang together or we hang separately!

aldercheems.bsky.social•1 hour ago

3 future Democratic presidential nominees voted yea on creating DHS and the Patriot Act. They helped build this.

dataportdoll.bsky.social•1 hour ago

As soon as a Dem acknowledges that Trump's an exaggerated version of what we've been doing since 2001, then they are an ally.

"Oh the state can't just arbitrarily strip money that they promised us!" is describing the social safety net and not acknowledging that is less than worthless.

mrobinson.bsky.social•52 minutes ago

The problem is that Dems are currently absolutely useless in opposing fascism. They have the overwhelming power compared to actual leftists and yet are doing nothing.
We don't need a coalition, we need Dems to do their fucking jobs.

mattpb.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Hey, GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU SHOULD'VE STOPPED TRUMP

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•4 hours ago

How do you want me to stop this?

mattpb.bsky.social•4 hours ago

With a rousing speech about the oligarchy!

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•4 hours ago

So true!

taylorgrayson.bsky.social•4 hours ago

You're confused. Saying "no" to a police state doesn't mean getting rid of the police. Only idiots want to get rid of the police.

janedough.bsky.social•10 minutes ago

Only idiots want to keep the police around.

maztr0n.bsky.social•4 hours ago

fuck you /srs

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Lol, who is it that is going to be carrying out all these Fascist orders, Lib?

thedarthlurker.bsky.social•8 hours ago

This is the danger the 'Small government' people never think about.

The large government was like a thick brake pad on authoritarianism.

Putin's MAGA has the pad squealing metal on metal

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The large government constructed the police state.

thedarthlurker.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The large government kept one guy from easily being able to gain control, forcing longer slower more obvious movements.

Trump and putin have worked to trim the resistance to their whims.

thedarthlurker.bsky.social•5 hours ago

No. He's dismantling the defenses. He wouldn't need to if it was already a police state.

I will agree we've been sliding that way for a while due to the 1% initiaves.

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Was the establishment of an entirely new agency for immigrations and customs expanding or shrinking government? Is building a network of detention camps you have to staff expanding or shrinking government? What about exapnding police agencies? Building fake cities to train against your own citizens?

thedarthlurker.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Cease fire.

I'm on your side regarding the horror of detention camps, but I know Trump has to peel up the existing big government so he can use what's there to devastating effect.

Thats WHY he's arresting judges and firing many doj folks

They are, were the brakes.

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•5 hours ago

No, you're not, if we were on the same side you would want the abolition of the American state and capitalism as a whole.

itsameowen.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Those things were bad, but you’re intentionally missing the point of the post. That’s ok, though, keep posting through it

infernatrixsophia.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I'm not missing the point, I'm approaching it dialectically.

coltranethedog.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Trump defines "efficiency" as removing every system of accountability between him and his personal quest for money and revenge.

lnygranny.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Next 🍊💩will gather voter rolls

sprint6864.bsky.social•7 hours ago

You honestly think Trump is magically undoing all this? The mechanisms were already in place and were already being used. He's just using them flagrantly. We've known Amazon was selling Ring data to cops and that protestors were being surveilled and followed. The black bagging in Oregon in 2020?

infrogmation.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The US Post Office Department was, in addition to delivering mail, the USA's original domestic intelligence agency. The Postmaster General was long a Cabinet position.
It was abolished by Nixon in 1971, with the new United States Postal Service tasked with delivering mail.

infrogmation.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Supposedly there's no official record of what happened to the USPOD intelligence files, but it's widely assumed that Hoover of the FBI got them.

Apparently Trump is restoring domestic spying to Post Office functions.

khwalz.bsky.social•6 hours ago

And has a lap dog, Doug Turino, to carry it out.

sassalesvonscales.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Ummmm

sassalesvonscales.bsky.social•7 hours ago

What? No we haven't.

gardenia-38.bsky.social•52 minutes ago

I think differently about that.

mspeggyhill.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Another new awful low

hensk.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Mail gets lost, mail persons assaulted, PO boxes robbed overall USPS can't be trusted and they're helping to illegally remove people from the country. Hopefully they'll do that as badly as they're serving us.

magadauthan.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Fuck me, the postman is supposed to be a person in your neighborhood, per Sesame Street. Not the bad guy.

cooljenim.bsky.social•7 hours ago

I can't get USPS to stop sending SSA, ICE, CBP mail addressed to the previous occupants of my house after YEARS of notifying USPS that me/my husband and NOT these people are on the deed, title of the address. Now USPS working WITH Trump Admin to locate suspected immigrants?! We're gonna be raided

dizzer.bsky.social•6 hours ago

And the GOP is all in

docmcdoom.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Also, DON'T BUY A FUCKING RING DOORBELL

taylorgrayson.bsky.social•4 hours ago

But then how can we post blurry videos on NextDoor?

plankysmith.bsky.social•7 hours ago

It's terrifying and so very dark

ascotrose.bsky.social•7 hours ago

What is the standard here? You mail a package to a Latin American country and have a Hispanic last name, so ICE snatches you while you're walking your dog?

jelainemc.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Who thought you'd cave sooooo easily???

andrewd1.bsky.social•50 minutes ago

Yes, and Trump is doing all this and it is one continuum. The insurrection didn't stop in Jan. 2021, it just went underground. The election was rigged so that he won all the swing States at a billion to one probability, considering his share of the vote.

jmgannon.bsky.social•6 hours ago

And then there's Musk. His Doge operatives likely had petabytes of storage in their black backpacks. I imagine every database has been copied, to be fed into Grok for dossier generation.

conservativedem5.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Its a blooming police state. Can't wait until we have soldiers on every street corner. Our beautiful sons and grandsons should not be signing up right now.

nookum.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Papers, please

joshuacasey.net•2 hours ago

fantastic video game, 10/10 recommend.

hopeyy84.bsky.social•6 hours ago

sandrathesailorman.bsky.social•3 hours ago

What??? Should I stop defending the USPS?

zebrajen.bsky.social•6 hours ago

At least our privacy is safe
😑

nerdma.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Also planning to use the military to enforce his idea of the law.

I love yall smart lawyers but I think the plan might have to be... something else.

oldunreliable.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Here are some low-information swing voters interviewed by the NYT who could not care less about this.

joshuacasey.net•2 hours ago

umm...the US has been a police state for quite a while actually. Go look up the Patriot Act FFS!

artemidorus.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I knew it, the mailman is a spy!

monkery.bsky.social•6 hours ago

panopticon

bryonyreads.bsky.social•7 hours ago

👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾

arrozconhalib.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Local law enforcement has been buying shit like bearcats for funsies at auction, attending “the people are the enemy” workshops, and stealing cash from traffic stops for decades. They have been beating the shit out of and imprisoning PoC on dubious charges for centuries.

arrozconhalib.bsky.social•3 hours ago

If you live on the border, being pulled over, questioned, searched, monitored, and detained without cause or warrant in the modern sense has been here since the establishment of the first Border Patrol station in 1917. They used to spray people crossing with Zyklon, which inspired the Nazis, and DDT

arrozconhalib.bsky.social•3 hours ago

The whole point of the 2020 actions was to finally address local policing and border “enforcement” for what it is. Dems wanted to soften the tone, not thinking that it would ever be used against them. Well guess what.

dinosdonteathorses.bsky.social•7 hours ago

The mail covers program isn’t new. It’s always been controversial though

maraleia.bsky.social•7 hours ago

It's so fucking terrifying for all of us who have ever voted for Democrats.

dcharlie.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Throw in Zuch and Xfanny and how soon before historical anti-trump sentiment is an offense ?

First gulag trip for a "fuck trump" post in 5... 4...

happyhulk.bsky.social•7 hours ago

I think this needs to start showing up more.

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