Disordered discourse isn't just false info—it’s a self-reinforcing system of belief that overrides reality and forces compliance.
It doesn’t need leaders. It sustains itself.
Even those who appear to control it—Trump, Musk, or others—are also shaped by it.
https://bsky.app/profile/eliothiggins.bsky.social/post/3ljbezuggwc2k
It doesn’t need leaders. It sustains itself.
Even those who appear to control it—Trump, Musk, or others—are also shaped by it.
https://bsky.app/profile/eliothiggins.bsky.social/post/3ljbezuggwc2k
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Eliot Higgins
What we’re witnessing in America is what happens when disordered discourse captures a political party, then the state itself. The Republican Party was the first to fall - abandoning truth for conspiracy, ideology for grievance, and policy for performative outrage.
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This is where we have failed, both in Ukraine and at home. We must stop Russia while putting ourselves at 0 risk. We must criticize trump but only when it doesn't hurt my career
We need to change to help Ukraine and save ourselves
But it'll still eat your enemies...
- Staying silent
- Tiptoeing around criticism
- Reversing their positions
Not because Trump commands them—but because the system forces conformity.
Disordered discourse doesn’t persuade. It coerces.
Disordered discourse doesn’t persuade. It coerces.
you are underestimating the fear of personal animus and reattributing from trump. the system works sort-of-ok with other presidents - yet very different with this one
YOU ARE PROVIDING PUTRID WITH SATELLITE TARGETTING DATA.
YOU HAVE DIRECTLY KILLED THESE PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE THE BLOOD OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN ON YOUR HANDS.
YOU WILL ROT IN HELL FOR THIS TREACHERY!
CLEAN HOUSE OR GO TO HELL, MOTHERFUCKERS!!
Doctrine Enforcement - A mandatory loyalty test. Dissent = exile.
Fear of Retaliation - Critics risk harassment, threats, or humiliation.
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So the truth is irrelevant—obedience is mandatory. Stray from the doctrine and you'll find hard times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamut_(Bartol_novel)
From that point of view z there's nothing new. Only now it's official.
This however is on steroids.
Forget freedom of speech, perhaps we should start the fight now for freedom of thought.
And betrayal has consequences.
Hypothesis- it will be the death of US technology leadership.
The future is based on machine learning mechanisms. The #Trump&Musk system is based on obedience and Distrust.
So no one will trust any AI the more this continues....
They can’t just abandon narratives their base demands.
They can’t admit mistakes without consequences.
They are as trapped by the system as anyone else.
This isn’t strategy, it’s capture.
The only instance I know of him, kind of, self-censoring is on the issue of CoVID vaccines, but even on that he claimed credit, even as he said "they don't want me to say this, but ..."
Which means for all intents, they are immune to it
has a more visceral feel to it.
Disordered discourse doesn’t just distort truth, it creates an alternative reality that enforces itself.
Not through control. Not through strategy. But because it’s self-sustaining.