To the shock of all our allies, “Vance told a series of misleading stories designed to demonstrate that European democracies aren’t democratic.” www.theatlantic.com/internationa... - ThreadSky

tribelaw.bsky.social • 1 day ago

To the shock of all our allies, “Vance told a series of misleading stories designed to demonstrate that European democracies aren’t democratic.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/02/trump-ukraine-postwar-world/681745/

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dianapet.bsky.social•1 day ago

😡

zomphlotz.bsky.social•1 day ago

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

Welcome to Wackyland.

oeishik.bsky.social•1 day ago

We must push back against this dystopian world order. https://youtu.be/odFG5YupiAE

helloblue75.bsky.social•1 day ago

When are they going to say LIES. Not misleading, not misinformation. LIES. He lied. He's a lying liar who lies. Thank you MST3k.

pmoreirapereira.bsky.social•1 day ago

We have long warned that capitalism threatens European values.

The idea of reforming capitalism is seen as a threat, as techno-capitalist greed undermines democracy and the common good.

The US admin. chose its enemy: Europe, human development social justice, education, ecology; the free world.

rosemmason.bsky.social•1 day ago

📌

bee1436.bsky.social•1 day ago

We have to let the rest of the world know, that only trump and his crew feel that way toward European democracies.

I know I value our European friends, I hope you do also

brentbradshaw.bsky.social•1 day ago

"You need to allow anti-democratic forces the chance to destroy your democracy from the inside or you aren't a good democracy."

dainty-bastard.bsky.social•1 day ago

It was so disgusting.
Vance was as vicious and dishonest as he is arrogant.
In one speech, he permanently bruised, if not broke a century of hard-won co-operation between longtime allies.
It's hard to take. That such venal stupidity is in positions of power, now.

lightspeedsara.bsky.social•1 day ago

Curtis Yarvin is to blame

clfulton.bsky.social•1 day ago

It was an embarrassing performance; he acted like he was speaking for all of us. The "far right" means something different than what most people in the U.S. think. Germany & other European countries know exactly what it meant when Vance said Germany should listen to voices from the far right.

dainty-bastard.bsky.social•1 day ago

That speech wasn't meant for the worthies in the room. It was a signal straight to the AfD and other extremists the the US now has their backs.
No words can describe how contemptuous and terrible this is.

bluesky411.bsky.social•1 day ago

𝔧 𝔡𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔯𝔬𝔱𝔢 𝔞 𝔟𝔬𝔬𝔨 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔱 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔱𝔬𝔱𝔞𝔩 𝔣𝔦𝔠𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫

veggieman801.bsky.social•1 day ago

I’ll give them one thing they’re starting to sound unified in their messaging…

nevergonnakneel.bsky.social•1 day ago

And they laughed and laughed.

gamedaywreath.bsky.social•1 day ago

I live in Ohio, where he briefly masqueraded as our senator. Nothing he says shocks me. #ShillbillyVance is another #PutinsPuppet.

golferjones.bsky.social•1 day ago

JD Couchfucker lied? Shocked I say shocked.

elizab1776.bsky.social•1 day ago

They want the U.S. to get kicked out of the NATO base at Thule, Greenland so they can have an excuse to attack like a marauding hoard of barbarians.

Our allies should not be provoked. Play along. Act stupid. Do not take the bait the morons are pushing.

socaislife.bsky.social•1 day ago

Isolate America.

jamest65.bsky.social•1 day ago

Fuck him, two faced prick

dermann51.bsky.social•1 day ago

"America is back" - Joe Biden, 4 years ago.

JFC How un-self-aware.

jeannehoffa.bsky.social•1 day ago

He was our chance. People will be begging for those days and decency again. Even though humans find it so hard to admit they were wrong.

sunraa.bsky.social•1 day ago

Nothing original, old playbook

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

momma2024.bsky.social•1 day ago

karel.online•1 day ago

To American readers: this is what JD Vance tried to do in Munich and this is why it did not work here. Every politician in Europe knows exactly what this is, many of them lived it. He even marked the terms misinformation and disinformation as "ugly Soviet-era words". Of course he did.

karel.online•1 day ago

Musk and Trump are implementing "Active Measures". Originally "aktivnye meropriyatiya" it is a political warfare conducted by the Soviet Union from 1920s and then Russia, ranging "from media manipulations to special actions involving various degrees of violence", used both abroad and domestically.

dcslider.bsky.social•1 day ago

Since Trump became President everything is worse.

jeannehoffa.bsky.social•1 day ago

Gas is up 10%. If Biden was president Fox would hammer people with whining about that 24/7.

dcslider.bsky.social•1 day ago

Truth

rick-gi.bsky.social•1 day ago

Unsurprising. Unfortunately. This is the sh1tstain we elected. 😬

gordonvincent.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm remembering Churchill's line, "You can count on the Americans to do the right thing... eventually."

How long is it going to take?

jackleg-buster.bsky.social•1 day ago

Vance continues to show us he’s a fraud and a phony who will peddle whatever disinformation suites his needs. Clearly Vance is lockstep with Trump in their mission to discredit Europe and undermine Ukraine as they support Russia’s goal of expansionism across Eastern Europe.

simiansilverback.bsky.social•1 day ago

While I abhor Trump & his tactics, the Atlantic story ends with the same message DT has been pushing. "Europeans have to provide the deterrence themselves. . . They need to radically increase military spending, planning, and coordination."

Imagine if Trump can't give away Ukraine b/c of Europe!

milocity.bsky.social•1 day ago

Gaslight

Obstruct

Project

...repeat

eugenewjones.bsky.social•1 day ago

I’m hearing Putin loaned Vance his speech writer last weekend.

averypoorhandle.bsky.social•1 day ago

Nope. He is dictating and eyeliner boy is jotting down every single comma.

crazy4sherman.bsky.social•1 day ago

interesting considering their first month screams look at our democracy. 🙄🖕🏻

bjw7.bsky.social•1 day ago

vance the dunce is as dumb as dumb can be

davemc5192.bsky.social•1 day ago

Why would any European take any notice of his ‘counsel’ to Europe on Democracy

The EU is not gonna be lectured on Democracy by a cosplay christo-fascist who has abandoned his own democracy in his own country

His uttering was met with the silence it deserved

coconutlizard.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes he did.

bobcat4evah.bsky.social•1 day ago

Postwar world??? Was that b4 or after Vietnam, Cambodia, all the CIA coups, Afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza? Looks more like forever war world. #DefundMIC

jeannehoffa.bsky.social•1 day ago

No bots!

kbergstrom.bsky.social•1 day ago

Wht the f@$k are these morons doing (morons being Vance, Trump and the Republican minions)?

john-sup.bsky.social•1 day ago

...again, and like tRump, he is somewhat challenged, and may not comprehend the words he's saying... it could just be a case of transferent mis-speakery from being around tRump, an idiot's contact high💩🤣🙁

debralhd.bsky.social•1 day ago

And yet it's the US that was downgraded on the GLOBAL Democracy Index in 2016 from a "Full" to "Flawed" democracy not European nations.

danylwms.bsky.social•1 day ago

Do they think folks don’t know they are lying.
The world see him, Americans see him.
What arrogance to think he is pulling a fast one in m millions of people in front of their eyes.
I’m offended he thinks we are that stupid.
Hillbilly

tradingsmiles.bsky.social•22 hours ago

https://bsky.app/profile/tradingsmiles.bsky.social/post/3lipefxhzas2m

themetabaron.bsky.social•1 day ago

Vance meant his prior comparisons of Trump to Hitler as a compliment.

hapdadiii.bsky.social•8 hours ago

The end of America as we know it

voltairesrage.bsky.social•1 day ago

The billionaire class is destroying Democracy and the rule of law planet wide. This is a coup of the Western World.

lisapierce.bsky.social•1 day ago

Elon should pay you for defining his goals so succinctly

delcodick.bsky.social•1 day ago

There is a reason why The Trump/billionaire alliance are pushing the far right so hard in the UK and EU. A united European market with 500 million consumers is a serious threat to the US economy and the dominance of the USD as a global reserve currency.

ansonmac.bsky.social•1 day ago

🎯✔️

madpotter.bsky.social•1 day ago

The Guardian is soliciting comments from Americans about Trump’s betrayal of Ukraine and Europe and embrace of Russia. You can share as much or as little as you want with them. I kinda feel like letting them know not all Americans are turncoats is useful.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/20/people-in-the-us-share-your-views-on-president-trumps-foreign-policy-towards-ukraine?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

adamarket.bsky.social•1 day ago

My fellow Brits call things “pants” when they’re crap, so I assume they are referring to the VP as “JD Pants” back in the UK.

enricoilleone.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think that he tried to argue, that immigration is against our common values.
Is he from a native American origin, and/or does he want to return the Americas to the native Americans?
"Dutch" people (3000-2000 BC) originate from Russia/Ukraine.

cowgirl52.bsky.social•16 hours ago

JD Vance is a pathetic human just like the rest of the Republican Party! 🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠

desertiguana28.bsky.social•1 day ago

Europe…GO GET JD VANCE!!!

desertiguana28.bsky.social•1 day ago

I’ve been to Europe, and I know them over there 👉—they can be MEAN 😈 when they want to be!

jofromeurope.bsky.social•1 day ago

We in 🇪🇺 are concerned about freedom of speech in 🇺🇲

spicybrowngenxmom.bsky.social•1 day ago

The dude fucked a couch, I can't believe ppl. Are this stupid.. education is critical if this country is to survive. We are doomed

guwonder.bsky.social•1 day ago

In Germany, Vance claimed Europe’s “enemy within” are those in democracies who follow the rule of law with restrictions on incitement to violence, Nazi salutes, and hate speech. Meanwhile the Musk-Trump-Vance plan sells out Ukraine and Europeans to Russia. Vance is the enemy within for democracies.

thatlostsockk.bsky.social•1 day ago

Wake up. It’s Curtis Yarvin. Musk is enacting his 7-step plan to dismantle democracy and replace it with a dictator.

4legsrgood.bsky.social•1 day ago

Vance is an asshole. A self important, self obsessed power hungry little wanker.

daggydame.bsky.social•4 hours ago

They certainly are!

rangeman77.bsky.social•1 day ago

It’s exactly the same as targeting all these government employees for dismissal, trying to turn them into the deep state as a waste of money and at the end of that Trump and President musk will hand themselves a $5+!trillion tax cut that will never be paid for. Bankrupting America underway

alv134.bsky.social•1 day ago

Enough!!!

the constitution does not give anyone the power to violate the constitution

remove these assholes now

flynavy77.bsky.social•1 day ago

Telling lies is what he does best.

mc2727.bsky.social•1 day ago

We don’t have allies anymore….

desertdane.bsky.social•1 day ago

shulamitlahat.bsky.social•1 day ago

"The End of the Postwar World.Trump and Vance are sending a dark message to America’s allies"
This message is not only meant for America's allies; it's also aimed at America's former adversaries in autocratic regimes, telling them team Trump/Musk is ready to emulate them and join their global agenda

bluefishercat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Unfortunately all they need to do is lie and amplify it, then it becomes “I heard…”and then did you hear…

averypoorhandle.bsky.social•1 day ago

This will get very serious soon and Europe will have to cut ties with America. It is time for all the deluded Atlanticists in both sides to wake up: There is no inherent statemanship in the guy, the Abraham accords were successful only because it was a corrupt deal for the benefit of corrupt estates

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