Ukraine was never going to join Nato under Trump.
Pete Hegseth has made reasonable assessments.
How would Ukraine take back Crimea without foreign intervention?
Why don't the EU get off their crumpet munching asses and send in their militaries to get rid of Russia in UA.
It's their backyard. Fix it.
it will only invite future attack, it will embolden China to make a move on Taiwan, Russia to test article 5 and Ukrainians in the future, because he will attack them again no matter what
Tbh and it’s just my opinion, we don’t have 4 years before they move on Taiwan, it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity with trump in power, I don’t think they’ll pass it up, but yeah we have time before Russians can do anything meaningful militarily again
Anxiety amped up all day
We knew this was probably going to happen- trump bowing to putin
But the dread of widespread (eu and usa)military conflict is more real to those of us on the backlines
I think so too. Especially with Trump, his words have no meaning. He talks so much nonsense and lies all the time. What he is saying currently sounds really bad but we have to wait and see what he actually ends up doing.
And we need to be with Ukraine, no matter what
I get it but still feels shit. Sitting here, right next to modern day nazis seeing the crash happening at slow motion for the past 10+ years makes me feel bitter and hopeless.
To cheer up just a bit, I just donated for a drone that will be deployed to Kursk. Money well spent! https://voidame.ee/en/
We're one step closer to the return of global colonial imperialism. Ukraine should not lament being excluded from NATO. Because NATO has today effectively died. Trump would not defend Poland or Finland or any other member. Ukraine should form new NATO. With open doors policy.
Things are going to get worse, much worse.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Ukrainian conflict becomes a wider war.
Trump will start a war with someone else and then he can postpone any elections due to it being wartime.
China will try to take Taiwan in the next couple of years if not this year.
I agree. But let’s try to remain positive since there is no alternative to Trump. He is notorious for creating an atmosphere of chaos to prepare the field for his ‘deal’. I pray every day that we- the US- does not screw Ukraine and let Russia get away with this.
Something that Trump, and to a lesser extent the US and world media forget, is that Ukraine gets a say in this. They don't have to do what Trump says. They fought for two years with minimal US help. The main help they need from foreign allies is to protect civilians and infrastructure from Russian/
bombing. Although this is something Zelenskiy desperately lobbies for to protect his compatriots, it's largely irrelevant to the frontline struggle, where Russia is again on the back foot now that European nations - not the US - have donated sufficient fighter jets for Ukraine to once again keep /
Ukrainian bombing runs were reported in the last week. Ukraine should have received over 40 f-16s by now plus the Mirages, reportedly 12. Total promised multirole & fighters is over 100. Ukraine's attacks on Russian SA air defence have been very effective which allows more latitude for UAF to attack
Right. don't underestimate trump's dunning-kruger effect. he could be trying to play off both sides to try to squeeze a "better deal" for the US out of Zelenskiy. also he is extraordinarily weak. tomorrow, with the slightest pushback from Waltz, Kellogg or Rubio, he could could reverse completely.
Just really sad about all of this. We squandered the last 4 years we had to achieve peace because we didn't want to rock the boat and now the boat and the harbor are sunk.
Even though Trump won the election, the American people are not "with" him on many matters of foreign policy (he is *starting* this term with sub 50% approval rating - lower than any other President in history and will only decline from here). Ukraine & allies just need to weather the storm for now
That's the sad thing about spheres of influence, it doesn't matter what those people want, it's about what the people pulling the strings on both sides want
It doesn't seem Trump got boodles of cash from Putin after his first term so he's probably a little bitter. He's going to see if he can enrich himself from Ukrainian rare Earth minerals via Musk or he can still cut a better deal with Putin.
I tried to warn folks...I've been shouting from the roof tops for months now. Trump is Putin's little bitch. Period. End of story. Be prepared. Cut off Intel sharing with America. Kick the US out of NATO and put nukes in Canada. America has fallen to Russian from the inside.
lol. Or maybe EU can stop acting like spineles cowards and send their militaries into Ukraine and finish the Russians off.
Keep complaining about Trump while EU is sitting back while crying about how Russia is an "existential threat".
I'm trapped in the States right now(Oakland at least)...trying to get back home to Norway to push things in that direction and to kick the 'Merikkkans out.
Bottom line is Trump admires dictators. He wants to become first like Orban, then like Putin. Putin & Trump are basically mob bosses-cheating, self-dealing, developing a deeply corrupt cabal around them. Why don't Americans see their own country's origins in Ukr? We've lost what freedom means.
Alas, no NATO member can be kicked out by other members - that's why we still have Hungary and Turkey. They are of course free to leave whenever, but they can do more harm from the inside 😒 I suppose the same now applies to USA as well.
You can still cut them out of Intel, get their troops out and prepare in case the invade Canada or Greenland still falls under Article 5. Or just scape NATO for a new Alliance without Russian controlled America.
Sure, but up until now it has been the US that has mostly provided intel to allies (though not much longer with FBI & CIA gutted). Or when a bigger army is your guest, you can ask politely for them to leave, but forcing them could be tricky.
They Americans would leave as Trump wants to leave anyway..and if they attacked instead...they are all surrounded and they'd be wiped fast. Leaving all that gear not destroyed for their use against the real enemy Russia.
A Russian conquest of Ukraine is an existential threat to European security. I hope European politicians realize this and up the stakes. If it takes our blood too, then so be it. Better to spend it now when Russia is weak than later when Russia is strong.
I’m hopeful that the US turning away from Europe will galvanise European countries to work together and to increase their defence spending and capabilities. We need it.
Enough with what the orange "messiah" did here or there. The exact expression is America's gift to Putler. This crime has tens of millions of accomplices.
Hoping against hope for continued aid packages and support cause that's what matters imo.
Despite all the political niceties of the previous admin I didn't really think they supported 2014 borders or post-war security guarantees either.
Saying it out loud might be a stupid choice tho...
What did I warn you about last month?
DO NOT TRUST TRUMP!
Europe should ACT if Ukraine is to remain sovereign: REMEMBER WHAT TRUMP DID IN AFGHANISTAN, and now many of the translators and those who helped find Bin Laden are dead BECAUSE Trump ignored the Afghan govt and dealt w/terrorist Taliban.
I *AM* an American, and I am saying this: I have lived with this anti-American and anti-Constitution asshat infecting my beloved country for almost a decade, and I *ASSURE* you that he does NOT GIVE A 💩 ABOUT UKRAINE or any other democracy, even OURS (look how he's violated our Constitution over and
over and over again until our Judicial Branch finally stepped in to preserve our democracy).
EUROPE needs to act, NOW, while Putin is on his back foot and his economy is imploding. TerroRussia cannot fund an army of orcs if it has NO MONEY: PLEASE, EU, SURGE troops and equipment to Ukraine NOW to
defend UA territory so that AFU can go on OFFENSE and wedge from Donetsk to Rostov creating a wedge to isolate Crimea and Zaporizhia from reinforcements/supplies and let the orcs choose surrender, starvation, or freezing to death.
But WHATEVER you do, DO NOT EXPECT HONESTY FROM TRUMP.
U know better.
Well said and my sentiment exactly. The US have shown that they can't be trusted to fulfill their promises, Europe should act accordingly and promptly.
Not under Don Trump's regime, and not NEARLY enough under Biden (but I think Biden feared starting WW3 or nukes, perhaps).
I pray that America will return to democracy: most of us want it, and the ONLY reason we are here is that 1/3 of voters DID NOT VOTE. That should change in 2026 and 2028. 🙏🤞
Basically Ukraina got the special offer: get screwed over by three nuclear powers and get one extra for free 💀
I really need EU and the rest of NATO to give the USA the finger and tell Trump to eat a bag of dicks instead of meekly looking the other way while screwing continues.
We need a new Defence institution without pro-Russian members.
US, Slovakia and Hungary will never leave NATO voluntarily. Inside the walls they have a much higher chance of disrupting any NATO actions against Russia or helping Ukraine.
The real problem in NATO and EU is not that members have disagreements and conflicting agendas, all that is to be expected. Or should have been: we assumed that everybody acts in good faith so decisions require consensus. This allows one bad faith actor to paralyse the entire organisation 1/
Both NATO and EU could be fixed by adopting majority decisions, which would be a fair and democratic way to operate. Unfortunately, in both cases this change requires consensus, and there are members who would not give up their veto.
So in the end, maybe we do need to establish new organisations./2
The veto is a relic from the old days where Europe were mostly on the same track.
So yes we do actually need new security institutions and a new upgraded EU 2.0 with majority decisions as you mentioned above👆
Anything is possible if there is enough political will. This is best generated through the instinct of self-preservation. We are facing many threats now.
I think Nordics and Baltics are a natural block within EU, so are JEF members. The seeds for new orgs are here, should we need to grow them.
Ukraine, and by extension the rest of Europe, ultimately have a veto on whatever garbage Trump’s deranged senile mind comes up. If it comes down to it I cannot imagine that the complete stop of all US Aid was unpredicted by the parties involved.
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Pete Hegseth has made reasonable assessments.
How would Ukraine take back Crimea without foreign intervention?
Why don't the EU get off their crumpet munching asses and send in their militaries to get rid of Russia in UA.
It's their backyard. Fix it.
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Fuck US
EU should stand up
We are close to defeat fascist ruSSia and putin
"Army of the willing"
Without USA
Without Hungary
Without Slowakei
We knew this was probably going to happen- trump bowing to putin
But the dread of widespread (eu and usa)military conflict is more real to those of us on the backlines
All the public statements are a theatre and lying from all sides
Our job is to stay with 🇺🇦
Keep calm, donate, support the people and defenders
And we need to be with Ukraine, no matter what
All true
Trump bounces around a lot and his words are almost as meaningless as russia’s
Getting too fixated on Trump’s tweets is dumb and useless
But collectively whining about it isn’t helping anyone or anything, it only reduces energy and motivation
We all have to ask, what can I do right now to help
And then do that thing, instead of whining
To cheer up just a bit, I just donated for a drone that will be deployed to Kursk. Money well spent!
https://voidame.ee/en/
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Ukrainian conflict becomes a wider war.
Trump will start a war with someone else and then he can postpone any elections due to it being wartime.
China will try to take Taiwan in the next couple of years if not this year.
Keep complaining about Trump while EU is sitting back while crying about how Russia is an "existential threat".
3 years of atrocities and I'm over concerns of "escalation".
In short, it's fucked and complicated.
See for yourself: https://bsky.app/profile/miskanuutinen.bsky.social/post/3lhza2czmxk2s
Spending on the American arms industry and this stinking lobby, it won't be.
America has 340 million people. 78% are voting age. That’s 265 million people. Minus the 74 million who voted Harris. That’s 191 million traitors!
Despite all the political niceties of the previous admin I didn't really think they supported 2014 borders or post-war security guarantees either.
Saying it out loud might be a stupid choice tho...
DO NOT TRUST TRUMP!
Europe should ACT if Ukraine is to remain sovereign: REMEMBER WHAT TRUMP DID IN AFGHANISTAN, and now many of the translators and those who helped find Bin Laden are dead BECAUSE Trump ignored the Afghan govt and dealt w/terrorist Taliban.
EUROPE needs to act, NOW, while Putin is on his back foot and his economy is imploding. TerroRussia cannot fund an army of orcs if it has NO MONEY: PLEASE, EU, SURGE troops and equipment to Ukraine NOW to
But WHATEVER you do, DO NOT EXPECT HONESTY FROM TRUMP.
U know better.
The US of A won't come to our rescue.
I pray that America will return to democracy: most of us want it, and the ONLY reason we are here is that 1/3 of voters DID NOT VOTE. That should change in 2026 and 2028. 🙏🤞
It s about benefits for Trump (America first) and for the War Pigs. Not for ukraine.
It was always what was on the cards...
Trump is no different to Putin. They both want to get things by force. The world needs to decide when enough is enough. You still have options.
I really need EU and the rest of NATO to give the USA the finger and tell Trump to eat a bag of dicks instead of meekly looking the other way while screwing continues.
We need a new Defence institution without pro-Russian members.
US, Slovakia and Hungary will never leave NATO voluntarily. Inside the walls they have a much higher chance of disrupting any NATO actions against Russia or helping Ukraine.
So in the end, maybe we do need to establish new organisations./2
So yes we do actually need new security institutions and a new upgraded EU 2.0 with majority decisions as you mentioned above👆
But that is not happening in near future.
Forgot about them. Thanks for reminding me.
The road ahead of us is going to be one of the defining moments in European history with no room for mistakes.
We need Ukraine and they need us.
I think Nordics and Baltics are a natural block within EU, so are JEF members. The seeds for new orgs are here, should we need to grow them.