I had a girlfriend who was a very religious Christian and when people at her church asked her why she was dating me since I was a Secular Humanist she told them "Because you don't have to be a Christian to be a good person."
You don't have to love scripture to believe in a peaceful moral society. And the Right is cheating on their wives and then claiming they stand for Christian values. I can't believe any real true Christians ever got duped by this false idol. This Golden Quaff.
i agree, but also his name was removed from the comic. this exact comic strip has also just been beaten to death. i wouldn’t be surprised if the person who made it, or at least posted it had no idea who stonetoss is. with that said,
Atheists are always closer to Jesus' teachings than ANY of the religions because we don't look to make a profit off of being kind to others - we do it because it's the right thing to do. Truthfully it costs nothing to be kind, but according to religions, you should pay them to be kind anyway.
I know it sounds crazy, but I'm an Atheist that supports Christ's teachings. I don't believe the religious hooky, only that he was a man who showed us there was a better way to go through life.
Matthew 23:27-28, "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs..
In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness."
A lot of his supposed teachings are good but a lot are bad. He said he was not sent to bring peace, but a sword. He also ran around and solved problems through magic and rituals. Got a starving village? Here I'll magically replicate fish and bread for everyone.
Funnily enough Christianity used to be extremely leftwing and socialist (at least fiscally) until it was hijacked by neoconservative and neoliberal reactionary movements who made it a force of the bourgeoisie.
Conservative Christians worship an antichrist. Not like some personification of it, but they actually bow down to the concept of the antichrist. They’re just dumb and have too much hubris to realize how fucking terrible they are as Christians, let alone as people.
Yeah, I agree. As an atheist I know that those fake Christians are not following Jesus in any way shape or form. I'm more Christian. To me, the bible is an interesting fairy tale with some really fucked up shit, but Jesus was a progressive guy.
As a Christian, it really kills me that all these MAGA parade around acting like their doing God's work, when in reality, they are using it as an excuse to be racist pieces of shit.
Why are you disturbed? I bumped into that years ago, into some mild stuff that was spread around, then looked up more, and found out it was actually a far right shit. Year or two ago that guy was outed abd doxxed as an actual nazi. Thought Slime made a good bit about the comic as well, check it out.
Oh my god, shut up. First of all, you can't even see his name on the comic, second of all, there's nothing wrong with taking far-right propaganda and repurposing it, thirdly, mind your fucking business and stop trying to control what people post. If you don't like it, unfollow.
Please don't normalize his caricatures on the internet. Editing this doesn't make it better, because it still normalizes his artwork if a bunch of ppl are reposting it.
The far right had no issues picking up and twisting the abandoned counterculture era language once used by the utopian hippies, to push the opposite message.
The only thing directly sending people to the nazi original artist is the first commenter who mentioned their name instead of just that they are a nazi
I wpundnt use their art myself, but please join some irl organising instead of arguing about something this irrelevant
Or we could not prop up a nazis art? Let's not take lessons of the enemy just because it can be used to share a good message. Let's just share good messages and create our own art
If we leave everything they touch for them we get to the point where we cannot say "ok" with the hands, use pepe that was absolutely not a Nazi icon, drink milk, etc.
I'm tired of everybody instead of fighting back just retreating every fu£|ng time!
Jesus isn't real and I'm pretty sure the biblical advice on when to stone your neighbor and how to maintain your slaves falls squarely in line with the beliefs of MAGA acolytes. No need to pretend Christianity is right in order to show that MAGA is wrong. They're both terrible.
For everyone who is hyper focusing on the artist behind this comic who isn't even named in the edit: wake up we have bigger problems!! Stop it!! The house is on fire and you're complaining about dumb shit
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Atheists and agnostic are more moral than Christians as a natural consequence of what they are: We don't need an imaginary sky-daddy to tell us not to do terrible things or threatening us with eternal punishment. We figured it out on our own.
Two things can be true at once, and there are multiple axes of moral analysis. All else being equal, I prefer an atheist or agnostic over a religionist.
>I just said my moral analysis exists on multiple axes.
Per your comments above, it appears to primarily exist on a single hyperreductive axis, theist-atheist, which just so happens to be one of the least useful rn.
Remember that 80% of Evangelicals voted for this. It wasn't a secret. So, when they claim moral high ground and call abortion murder, remind them they voted to take away life-saving remedies from children already born around the world so they could help pay for a tax cut.
I follow the teachings of Christ, but I refuse to call myself a "Christian." The extreme right has pretty much made it a bad label. I'd rather side with the agnostic and atheists since they understand the assignment.
I feel like if we hit them upside the back of their head hard enough, like our parents did to us when we were being dumb, it would force a factory reset and cure the crazy.
Jesus was preaching against the hypocrisy that the Pharisees were doing in the synagogue Now the people claiming to be “Christian’s” aka the trump nationalists are the ones behaving the way that Jesus was preach against that was the point.
Just because someone doesn’t have Tue same faith or absence of faith doesn’t mean they can’t be an ally. You don’t need to believe in a higher power to help people
My brother shares the values our parents taught all of us, but he is unable to believe in God, thus is the only atheist among we 3 "kids." I often say he is more of a true Christian than Franklin Graham, Joel Osteen and the ilk.
And Evangelicals are as Christian as the Soviets were Communist: they wear the skin of a religion they butchered, and faith is nothing more than a lever to manipulate wealth from the masses.
No he's right in order to be apart of any movement or group you have to follow the ideals of that group you can't call yourself a leftist if you're also a reactionary for example then you're just a nazi pretending the title.
I didn't confirm that but even if I had it wouldn't matter because Evangelicals are Christians. Same as Mormons and Catholics. You're going to have to accept that Evangelicals are one of the several thousand sub denominations of Christianity.
Something my friends and I noticed
Elon Musk is making a brain chip you can use as if marked, to buy food which is beastly
Annnnd the other guy is selling bibles and got shot
Dunno I'mma start praying 3 times a day now
Would you say the same about something depicting Jews put out by the Nazis in the 1930's? Probably not. The answer is no, you bury them, not whitewash them.
You give StoneToss way too much credit.
Outside of people as online as we are, nobody could determine who's kind of drawing this is and what it relates to. The meme explains itself and exists as its own entity.
Why does it exist at all? Someone made the choice to use his particular images instead of going elsewhere to make the same point. It is still propagation of neo-Nazi propaganda, which is ultimately it's only objective to begin with.
... Into places you can't go with swastikas and slurs. Neo-Nazis use irony poisoning to spread their filth. This is literally part of how they do it. So no. Burn it.
Not really. Normal people would see this, people would go "It's StoneToss, but he's a Nazi". Nobody would talk about him positively. The only people that like StoneToss are already Nazi sympathizers, so it's too late for them
We're talking about Nazi propaganda, it literally doesn't matter. If you know anything about Stonetoss in particular then you will understand that his primary tactic has always been about plausible deniability via the blandness of his art style which allows deeper penetration ...
The only reason that his name has any visibility here is cause you just said it, and it’s proven that taking their works and reframing it in our view is a great way to take power away from them
I’m naming and shaming a nazi, dunno what you’re talking about. Using a nazi’s comic as a meme is, however, giving them a platform even if their name is erased from it. You wouldn’t make a funny postcard from Hitler’s artistic vault would you?
I would to mock him and spread love against his views yes, it would take power away from him and his name. It would show not being afraid of tyrants and bullies, and that it’s good to stand up to them
What's really astonishing here is the number of people who can name the apparently neo-nazi source of this "art", and want to make sure everyone knows that name. I wish I didn't but thanks for that.
First of all, you can't even see his name on the comic, second of all, I'm for giving visibility to far-right psychos if it means fucking on them or exposing them for their vile worldview.
My mama said something to the effect that our beliefs were basically Christian, it's just that we don't believe in magic in our family.
It blew my mind for a minute, but she's not entirely wrong
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Because we have the same values.
When will we stop letting Nazis have power over our ability to call Nazis evil?
punch nazis
Today.
Right now.
Here.
And witches. Witches are cool.
MAGA hats, fffuuuuu
It smells like...victory
In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness."
That's not a reasonable approach🤦♂️
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Use it for good, use it against them.
I wpundnt use their art myself, but please join some irl organising instead of arguing about something this irrelevant
I'm tired of everybody instead of fighting back just retreating every fu£|ng time!
Famously they are atheists!
Many atheists call out Christian hypocrisy for not following Christ's teachings
There's even a saying, "there are atheists more Christian than some Christians"
Here's how: https://bsky.app/profile/jesscraven101.bsky.social/post/3lhazbw6zhc2l
In both cases I can admire them and take strength from both their words and their example without them having to be real.
Please leave the 2006 mindset,it doesnt work that way.
Everyone ive ever known who put religious orientation first when judging people was a fedora pos
Whether someone believes in god or not just isnt very important currently, and the outdated Bush era lens you’re using is positively useless rn
Dont center useless divisive stuff, focus on the important.
Per your comments above, it appears to primarily exist on a single hyperreductive axis, theist-atheist, which just so happens to be one of the least useful rn.
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/stonetoss-doxxing
Shop it the fuck away
Note: my autocorrect actually tried to correct this properly for once, I had to try to get those words wrong.
JFC. It's not that hard.
Can I be on the rope between Jesus’ teachings and the atheist? I’d like to pull with both of you.
And Evangelicals are as Christian as the Soviets were Communist: they wear the skin of a religion they butchered, and faith is nothing more than a lever to manipulate wealth from the masses.
Elon Musk is making a brain chip you can use as if marked, to buy food which is beastly
Annnnd the other guy is selling bibles and got shot
Dunno I'mma start praying 3 times a day now
StoneToss is a piece of shit, I think reusing his stuff like this is a net positive
Outside of people as online as we are, nobody could determine who's kind of drawing this is and what it relates to. The meme explains itself and exists as its own entity.
Is it edited? Is it a cartoon?
Jesus would not be at all surprised. He is very clear about the dangers posed by the rich and fake Christians alike.
It's easier for a cammle to fit through the eye of a needle then a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Christian nationalists better hope atheists are right
Atheists: "lol no, gOD is not real"
Yeah, I don't think they're on the same side at all...
It blew my mind for a minute, but she's not entirely wrong