What does it say about the American people and their system of government that they could elect this mentally ill fuckstick president—twice. Seriously, how?
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Exactly, but it is not the whole population and, probably, not even the majority. The problem is there is a large segment that is uninterested or believes nothing can be done. That segment has to come to the realization of the power of large numbers of engaged, active members of society.
I agree with you on your second point as it is precisely 100% true for far too much time. With Trump, his ineptitude, his ignorance & arrogance, & his malignant narcissistic sick sociopathy, we hit an all time bottomless pit.
The fact McConnell waived off impeachment after 1/6 and the Supreme Court delayed a reckoning until too late then (Roberts) wrote the completely extra-constitutional absurd immunity ruling shows the system basically gave this monster the checkered flag.
The Roberts “immunity” will go down in history as an “anti-democracy”, “pro authoritarian fascist” decision that may be the fulcrum point that ultimately destroys our democracy & our country. Roberts also gave us the “hanging chad” decision as the second worst decision ever.
Yup and repealed from the bench the voting rights act that Congress had just renewed, also let’s not forget swung the 5-4 Citizens United Decision. Just shows that the SC was a poor idea, appts. by politicians of judges with lifetime tenure and no accountability is nuts! Roberts is 💩
It says more about how corrupt they are. During the inauguration he said out loud “Elon has a way with those voting machines in PA” Elon stole the election because he knew he was screwed without Trump
Their system has deadly flaws which made it vulnerable. Lack of ranked choice. Politicians choosing judges. The Electoral lobby, President seriously overpowered-everything should go through Congress. Add lack of laws stopping corruption, lack of media ownership laws, lack of truth in the press laws
There are "laws" about many things. Trump is deliberately ignoring the "law" and not a single sworn member of the government is doing anything about. This isn't an unprecedented end to a Republic. France threw off the Monarchy to cheer while Napoleon crowned himself Emperor.
Felon rigged it and they stole it but no one would stand up and say so bc they didn’t want to sound like he did last time. They have admitted it several times how they rigged it.
We didn’t vote for this! It really was stolen !
It says... the the Republican long-game of creating an autocracy/oligarchy is in the final few minutes. American Democracy teeters on the edge of being fully and completely destroyed from within.
Because we've been told for decades it could never happen here, and we believed it.
It would never have happened with no electoral college. But yeah, our system is fucked. How many millions don’t vote because they feel their vote doesn’t count. I vote, but live in deep red Wyoming
We didn’t elect him. His gf purchased it. And as his gf’s child said publicly, he’s not the president. The only people who can do anything about it are awfully silent.
And why would ANY Canadian ever want to be a part of your country? Clearly the American people elected a “mentally ill fuckstick president—twice.” No thanks.
As a psychiatrist for 30 years. I never realized fully the depth of our collective depravity. Some (Bandy Lee, Mary Trump, John Dean and Bob Altmeyer) tried to warn about Trump back in 2016 but they were dismissed even by the APA (Goldwater rule). Now we’re a sick society ruled by the even sicker
Lol… no shit. That’s why Trump was so fucking convinced he won in 2020 because he cheated and “How is it possible for Biden to have won? We -should- have won…. because we cheated.
He has failed abysmally, put in the most woe-begone idiots, stooges, and crooks, and so in my view has embarrassed the country and should be regarded as an illegitimate ruler. I do. I do not acknowledge him as my president or his country as my country. ✊
It’s galling that if he “won”the election on Nov. 5, it was because of a confused, poorly informed and lied-to electorate, and that somehow that makes him high seigneur of the manor and all of us his serfs (John Roberts, thanks), instead of providing good gov’t and obeying the constitution. (Cont.)
Unfortunately there are way too many of them, and our ridiculous fossilized constitution magnifies their stupidity (EC, 2 senators per state so the shrill howling wind in yawning empty places gets more voice than people), the nefarious influence of religious rubbish (see: Court, Supreme)
I still think it could’ve been voter fraud and suppression and election interference in the seven swing states. These states regulate their own elections and could conduct internal investigations which might result in felony charges. PA was supposed to be investigating musk for this. What happened?
Trump and his ghouls sowed enough doubts in 2020 (stop the steal!) that people were simply worn down. Obviously, enough idiots in enough states did vote for him that no one wanted to look into the fine print. We have a completely corrupt system—and that’s why we’re cooked. We need to march.
See you have to have a better understanding of who I am. These are my lifelong friends people that I thought I knew people that I saw were kind and considerate and loving, and all of a sudden I saw who they really were selling out our whole country so that they could get rid of immigrants no sorry
I know some well educated people, who I care for, but they have a “I’ll never vote for a democrat” attitude. I think they aren’t seeing the big picture, but I keep contact with them. I just feel Trump & his MAGA hounds spread hate & fear so we should not buy into those emotions. Take care 😊
The support for the fat orange conman that continues after all the atrocities he has committed is unforgivable and those people are not who we thought they were the level of hate cruelty crimes against America and violence makes it not about party but it’s about them they can’t be good people
Under 1/3 voted for this criminal. Much footage exists of Felon 47 & fElon Susks + little son speaking on the hacking job in PA & swing states. Enough voted for Shill Stein, just as in the Hillary Clinton election, to take #s from Kamala Harris. MORE THAN 1/3 of eligible voters STAY HOME.
Simple. 1: low information voters are idiots. They remembered that things were cheaper between 2017-2019 (memory holed the pandemic economy). 2: Propaganda. In conclusion. INVEST IN EDUCATION (wonder why they're destroying the DOE/etc). HMMM
The US is a deeply ignorant country that has been marinating in religious nonsense from the beginning. Brains are totally redundant when you accept the most farfetched nonsense as “truth.” To hell with all of it, hard pass!
That is why Elon has been right in the thick of the Trump regime although he was never elected to do anything that he has done. why would Trump put up with Elon taking the spotlight unless he had no choice, because Elon paid for his entire win hacking the voting system with his Starlink satellites
Easy answer.
In a 2-party system, the largest merged with the largest political espionage propaganda network.
...and no one can focus on the root cause due to all the distraction.
Ah, go ahead. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and we dropped from one of the branches of Great Britain (make Great Britain great again anyone?) The US and Britain were what Churchill smugly described as “Great democracies.” Well at least you have the “Great British bake-off.” We have nothing
Historically, money in US politics originated from domestic business interests. This shifted to include foreign investment with commercial aims, and more recently, has expanded to encompass foreign funding with explicit political objectives. Politicians are quite reluctant to fight corruption.
It boils down to the rich and the ignorant. The rich need the ignorant to take control. It's truly exhausting just how many of the ignorants there are in the US
Sadly Trump was telling the truth for one of the few times in his life when he said, I love the uneducated.
And our anti-intellectualism and marinading in religious tripe (TV preachers, Fox bobble heads) forever made it so. We are not a great society by any measure (sorry LBJ)
I know I sound like a crazy conspiracy person, but I honestly don’t think we did. I think there was a little fudging with the numbers in swing states. Don’t forget “Elon knows those computers”
Let's be honest, people in the USA are fucking dumb. The first step on fixing a problem is to acknowledge it
The education system is a joke, trashy reality shows are extremely popular, 1/4 or world's porn is produced in the USA, they have the most evangelicals
I stopped standing for the national anthem after the invasion of Iraq.
America have been (one of) the bad guys for as long as I can remember. Seems like people are starting to figure out that the "good people with different opinions" have actually always been bastards.
And we have his side kick Elon paying for votes because they know they can't win otherwise. Donnie will never help the American people because he only cares about himself!
This!! So many people are standing up FOR him. Not against him.
I keep hearing about how it's not all Americans and how most people didn't vote for him. Well, he is screwing the world so they better do something quick cause they are not immune either!
Did not elect him twice . The election was stolen the second time and, possibly, the first. It will come out. Elon may have NDAs with his operatives, but someone always gets disgruntled and says the heck with it and spills the beans.
It says that a total of 70% of the American people are either evil fascist cult members (the ‘MAGA’ crowd), or don’t care enough to show up for an election.
Only 30% of the American people voted to stop this madness.
Clearly there are enough dumb people in America who can be convinced by billionaires that their neighbours are the problem and not the billionaires. They’ve all been played.
This is on the GOP in Congress. They had two chances to stop this in the last term but put party first. This is on Joe Biden for running for a second term. This is on the 84M voters who sat it out in '24. This is on us all for failing to educate generations of our children about what really matters.
Because trump got his rich friends to raise prices on everything to make biden look bad then trump promised to lower everything once he got in office it was all a scam an the voters fell for it it's shows you how they manipulate everyone
Go to an account called This Will Hold & read the very long pinned post. Elon Musk rigged the vote tabulation machines used in the 2024 election. The reality is, Trump LOST the election.
That’s exactly what I think and why muskrat has been able to just go in and lie and destroy our decades old institutions that help
And protect all
Americans
I don’t think we did. even if the election wasn’t hacked, people are lazy & a tremendous amount of money poured into the effort to divide the Democratic vote. With the Democrats don’t understand is the Republicans don’t play by any rules. They don’t give a shit about decorum. They fight dirty.
Also we do everything possible as a country to suppress turnout esp. in Dem areas, allow gerrymandering, the whole money is speech thing, first Tuesday in November when many people work and the Esther is poor, electoral college…you couldn’t if you set out to do so come up with a worse system,
They got yonget off Fox “News”
And get off distorted social media platforms.
And young people need to start paying attention to where the future is heading…
Too many i talk to are not interested!
rilly ... with everything that is so seriously wrong with the stain in the white house, there are so many more just as morally vacant who put him there ... even considering the significant efforts to cheat him into office, droves still voted for his empty-headed sadism
Agree; we have to start with the admission that the US has been a very sick society for a long time. Covid and our response to it was an apt metaphor. It’s likely that now—with the multi-organ failure of all 3 branches of gov’t. and the poor shape of the electorate—-we’re at terminal stage
Aided largely by having vast swaths of people marinating (tax free) in superstitious religious nonsense (“open your biology textbook to Genesis chapter 1”)
Fox News and X propaganda + incels young and old who think Trump is going to get them laid + many Americans being literally physically unable to enter a vote for a non-white non-male candidate.
Don't forget it could easily have been 3 times. Would've wiped his orange ass with the 22nd amendment and ~%40 of the country would've cheered while he did it. Hell, that might still happen, we'll see won't we.
I truly believe that the American people did NOT elect him - either time. Though I admit that a disturbing number of Americans really did vote for this.
It's beyond my comprehension. I can still barely believe he was elected in 2016 - his 2024 election win will be a mind-boggling mystery to me til I die.
It certainly was a touchstone of depravity. There have been so many. A moment like that reveals a people’s character; the fact that guns matter more than people—the perverted decisions of the Supreme Court—the rotten culture in so much of the US. You have struck a nerve with me.
We're workin' on it, Bill! But it's probably the biggest unanswered question of our lifetime and young democracy! I admit to being late on this one--just NOW read "Hillbilly Elegy". I must say, there are some possible ANSWERS here, coming from a professed R who thinks, imo, like a D.
Recently a friend and I spoke about our life experience.
We agreed that both of us did the best we could in difficult, sometimes painful, times.
I suggested it is possible that some people are so overwhelmed, frightened that they need more support to see them through, a crutch like t****p.
??
The median American is the most heavily propagandized, individualistic, incurious and apathetic form of human being on this planet. Everything happening now is the natural trajectory of a country founded, sustained and led by sociopathic opportunists. (You seem alright though)
The big thing all Americans have to admit is that there are clear problems with our system of government, and we are going to have to fight very hard to recover what we've lost to even begin to fight to fix it
By winning all seven 'swing' states.
Nothing unusual there.
Repubs being allowed to mess around inside voting machines last cycle.
Nothing unusual there.
Richest prick on the planet 'Helps' his buddy with more money than most of us will see in a lifetime.
Nothing unusual there.
the 2024 election was stolen with the help of sleeze-on muskrat . most of us did not vote for tRump and the chaos he brings. he's putin's bitch and has sold out america 🤢🤮
Become? No. That’s par for the course. Showing how “above politics” one is by either “both sidesing” or “not getting involved” is a virtue. I don’t get it, but that’s how we roll. Furthermore, Trump is a symptom of a two party system which is unresponsive to its citizenry’s needs.
Yeah, I think some of the stats are quirky but, bottom line, not even 50% voted for this misfit. The lazy non-voters better get off the asses before it's too late, and don't even get me started on the damn 3rd party idiots! 😵💫
Because Democrats and Republicans did not do the things necessary to maintain an evolving democracy. They let it fall into disrepair so they could keep their talking points and culture war issues. Then fascists were able to exploit the holes in our democracy which brings us to this moment.
Also, Biden fucked the whole election up for dems by not allowing a primary, and then defacto handpicking Harris. Biden not stepping down meant only Harris could take over his campaign funds.
It was the inflation that was due to COVID-19 and supply chain issues and corporations taking advantage of the situation and overcharging customers and people who’ve never taken Economics 101.
We have been bombarded by right wing propaganda and foreign disinformation for YEARS. A large percentage of the U.S. population lives in a fantasy completely divorced from reality; they're completely mired in false narratives and conspiracy theories. Social media, the internet, and podcasts - beware
Nothing because the American people didn't vote for this, Maga did, which means that not even close to half of the country voted for this shit... 31% Max. Blaming the other 69% isn't going to help anybody.
And even now where is Kamala and where are the Dems laying down when was again saying only we can save you and once again I am not a trump supporter just an American who feels he has no real representation in this country but the constitution
Well Bill I am not a maga fan great question what does it really say about the Democrats they could not beat a 34 time felon is the question the American people and Democrats should really work on
They need to make clear what they stand for. Tax the rich, stand firm for women’s and civil rights, etc. Get rid of the insiders and collapsers like Schumer and that old sorry lot and get behind those with real passion—Ossoff and Buttigieg have done well lately, Sanders and A.O.C., Pritzker.
Hay bill al gore should of been president if the Democrats cared about us and Bernie would have been president if the DNC let the American voters speak and who knows what would of happened if the American voters had a choice for president this time instead of Biden is sick just vote for her IMO
And Al would have made a great president. But remember the hanging chads and Supreme Court deciding to put Bush Jr in.
I will vote for Dems no matter what; the alternative is incomprehensible
Of course I do just like I remember Bernie would have destroyed trump for president not a smear against Hillary more like a point the DNC did not let the voters speak hard to just for get that cost American people their lives and freedoms
It was a fatal mistake to try to run Hilary but hey, it was her turn! And no one imagined Trump could win. But there were too many stupid ill informed voters in red states who thought “Apprentice” equaled good businessman and Fox News said it too. In retrospect Trump was inevitable—he IS America
It says half of the country is full of hate, is greedy, lacks the ability to love, respect, or attach to anyone.
They hate women (internalized Misogyny for women who hate women), PoC, LGBTQ+, immigrants, Vets, elderly, disabled, poor. They hate their children, are destroying their future.
Unfortunately we have a stupid system thanks to the Constitution and the corrupt way it’s been interpreted (money is speech), and yes, by and large we have way too many total ignoramuses (exhibit A; Mike Johnson, 3rd in line to be president). We’re going down, badbuff, we’re going down!
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That’s how.
But I suppose that’s what we’ve always been.
We didn’t vote for this! It really was stolen !
B) They're scared
C) They're evil
D) They're greedy
E) They're angry
I am going for a combination of the above.
Because we've been told for decades it could never happen here, and we believed it.
How the FUUUUUUUK…
Putin
Republicans
Billionaires
Misogyny
We don't need ableist excuses for them. People with disabilities are under attack right now and most mental illnesses are covered under the ADA.
And it says that he lied to them and they were too busy trying to live to do their homework and know he was conning them the whole time.
https://youtu.be/AwSVN_dgio8?si=pP0Bb7ud_FBi3Pd1
We already knew that the USA was one fucked up never-come-down land.
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
—Buffalo Springfield
That’s the problem right there.
FAITH without reason is the root of this evil!!
In a 2-party system, the largest merged with the largest political espionage propaganda network.
...and no one can focus on the root cause due to all the distraction.
lies, propaganda, psy-ops and corruption are incredibly powerful forces
So we can’t really say anything derogatory about the USA.
But I’ll still fight you to death over the fact that the UK is a bigger basket case than America.
2. Fraud
And our anti-intellectualism and marinading in religious tripe (TV preachers, Fox bobble heads) forever made it so. We are not a great society by any measure (sorry LBJ)
Too much honor system in our governmental rules.
Too much propaganda masquerading as news.
The education system is a joke, trashy reality shows are extremely popular, 1/4 or world's porn is produced in the USA, they have the most evangelicals
America have been (one of) the bad guys for as long as I can remember. Seems like people are starting to figure out that the "good people with different opinions" have actually always been bastards.
I keep hearing about how it's not all Americans and how most people didn't vote for him. Well, he is screwing the world so they better do something quick cause they are not immune either!
Only 30% of the American people voted to stop this madness.
30%.
Or is this a rhetorical question?
Honest question.
This formula is especially advantageous when NOT an incumbent. Because then there’s no record or current sense of policy.
And protect all
Americans
And get off distorted social media platforms.
And young people need to start paying attention to where the future is heading…
Too many i talk to are not interested!
We agreed that both of us did the best we could in difficult, sometimes painful, times.
I suggested it is possible that some people are so overwhelmed, frightened that they need more support to see them through, a crutch like t****p.
??
Nothing unusual there.
Repubs being allowed to mess around inside voting machines last cycle.
Nothing unusual there.
Richest prick on the planet 'Helps' his buddy with more money than most of us will see in a lifetime.
Nothing unusual there.
Along with the apathy of those who couldn't be bothered to vote.
It could have been so “normal”
Harris/Walz
Musk bought the election in PA.
Also, Biden fucked the whole election up for dems by not allowing a primary, and then defacto handpicking Harris. Biden not stepping down meant only Harris could take over his campaign funds.
WE THE PEOPLE ARE RISING UP!
@electiontruth.bsky.social
I will vote for Dems no matter what; the alternative is incomprehensible
They hate women (internalized Misogyny for women who hate women), PoC, LGBTQ+, immigrants, Vets, elderly, disabled, poor. They hate their children, are destroying their future.
Look up Russian tails, and check this out:
https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f
Rules? Sportsmanship? Honor? Fair play?
Nah.
“Lol ha ha loosers (sic) we
PWNED U!”
This is that.
Political party as Home Team.