Why would anyone, even white europeans who you would presume these motherfuckers don't want to harass, ever want to come here as a tourist ever again? The risk isn't worth it. - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

lukeoneil47.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Why would anyone, even white europeans who you would presume these motherfuckers don't want to harass, ever want to come here as a tourist ever again? The risk isn't worth it.

Reposted from Lilly Irani

CBP is detaining german tourist for over 1 mo because they accused her of intending to tattoo for $$ while in US. In jailing her to deport, they held her in solitary for 9 days, also kept her from her return flight Feb 15. She's still jailed.

CoreCivic+CBP ⬆️ 💵

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compulsiveobserver.bsky.social•3 days ago

I’m a white Canadian artist/academic snd there is no way I’m going to the USA as a tourist or for work stuff. I have already had tons of crap experiences with US border patrol for no reason whatsoever. Going now seems like Russian Roulette.

alisonborealis.bsky.social•3 days ago

I got held in the airport border crossing for accidentally having an orange, grown in the USA in my bag (which I'd intended to eat on the plane) on a flight to the USA.

For hours.

Why on earth would I go now?

compulsiveobserver.bsky.social•3 days ago

I’ve also been held for having American fruit. Ive been held for hours having a valid working visa as a performer because the border agents didn’t know what a P2 visa was.

alisonborealis.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yeah.
I've been held up for stuff like that too.

I was being paid by Canadians, in Canadian money, from a Canadian bank (the job wasn't available to Americans) and they still held us at the border for hours.

That was 2003 I can't imagine it's better now.

alisonborealis.bsky.social•3 days ago

I don't understand how you employ people for roles that require specific knowledge and then ... fail to impart that knowledge.

compulsiveobserver.bsky.social•3 days ago

Its a totally mystery. And we are talking major crossings! Once going from Windsor to Detroit we got held so long we almost missed our gig. And thats with everyone having passed background checks and having (super expensive) work visas.

rwilks.bsky.social•3 days ago

Same here. I've been going to the states for work for over 20 years, to the point where one of the DOE labs feels like a second home, and now I'm genuinely reluctant to travel there. During Trump 1 I joked that they'd never let me in if they saw my social media posts. It's less of a joke now.

donbones.bsky.social•3 days ago

Travel plans to the US have been cancelled indefinitely over here. It feels legitimately unsafe

heldsteady.bsky.social•3 days ago

Given all this, there is no way the Olympics or World Cup should go forward with the US as a host nation.

deehellcat.bsky.social•3 days ago

ouch, good point, and LA is supposed to host the next summer games, aren't they? 😬

Of course, the yam might be fine with that if he thinks it'd hurt California. sigh.

scatteredwords.bsky.social•3 days ago

No, he wants the ego boost to play host to the Olympics.

naoarte.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sadly, there is. Nobody stopped the World Cup in Qatar…

intweed.bsky.social•3 days ago

White British gay person here. Ruled out any US trips during Trump’s first term and sadly can’t imagine when it might seem like a safe country to visit again.

dustinheron.bsky.social•3 days ago

Of course they finally decrease European tourism, but we can't even enjoy it, because they're going to destroy the national parks, too.

sopranospinner.bsky.social•3 days ago

For *intending* to do something? Umm...

scatteredwords.bsky.social•3 days ago

White German here. Visits to the USA have been off the table since Trump's first election. But even before that it was... not a priority.

US immigration is horrible. Saying this as someone who grew up in West-Berlin and had to deal with East-German border patrols who were brutal. US was worse.

sperplexitas.bsky.social•3 days ago

Is USA a rule of law country?
I have doubted it for long time. I never took the risk to visit it, in spite of its theoretical interest.

ea75.bsky.social•3 days ago

What is going on here, is this the efficiency they brag about? If she did break the law, deport her, if not let her be.

machtnichts.bsky.social•3 days ago

Her friend should have immediately called the German embassy. ICE is a disgrace.

tchize.bsky.social•3 days ago

It became a strong "no" year ago, when required personal data & biometric data to be sent to US govv and kept as long as they which for whatever reason.
Then climate change awareness added nails to the travel coffin.

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dorsetrachel.bsky.social•2 days ago

White Brit here. Absolutely no way am I visiting the US under the current regime (same was true 2017-21) despite having lots of friends in CA.

US immigration procedure has always been unpleasant (especially at JFK and on the southern border) but now - no way.

ismathers.bsky.social•3 days ago

Canadian and pretty torn (lots of friends and loved ones in the States)

jayslacks.bsky.social•3 days ago

They are just evil. They could just send her back home. So fucking stupid.

philipsherburne.bsky.social•2 days ago

I come back every 4 months to visit my mom, who's in assisted living. Once a year, my wife and daughter (Spanish citizens) come with me, but we are very strongly considering canceling their trip this summer.

kathrynesings.bsky.social•2 days ago

Myself, spouse, and child all carry US passports but live abroad. And I’m starting to worry if it’s safe for us to come for our summer visit to US family.

salarta.bsky.social•3 days ago

I mean, people visit North Korea, but the basic matter is entirely on point. Only people with no sense will want to visit America soon.

tkmodise.bsky.social•3 days ago

Your friendly reminder that the Football World Cup and Olympic’s will be hosted here in the next 3 years 💀

mattr644.bsky.social•3 days ago

Honestly I would have thought white Europeans (and white South Africans) would be the only ones that are fine, maybe we're just talking the Scandinavian countries...

someonegrandma.bsky.social•3 days ago

For-profit prisons

cntrtnr.bsky.social•3 days ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/snowbirds-list-vacation-home-in-arizona-1.7468998

north52.bsky.social•3 days ago

USA for profit prison system. Largest number of incarcerated citizens per capital in the world. Capitalism devolving into full authoritarianism yeah I’ll take a pass on travelling there until there is a revolution to overthrow the ruling class.

lukeoneil47.bsky.social•3 days ago

Eh I guess I should turn this into a blog. If you live elsewhere and are no longer considering visiting the US comment below or dm me if you prefer.

mrbutterchicken.bsky.social•3 days ago

The number of Canadians cancelling travel is ridiculous.

lukeoneil47.bsky.social•3 days ago

you ruling it out personally?

gabelerman.bsky.social•2 days ago

Canadian, used to go to Disney and baseball games and whatnot. Travel plans shifted to local spots and Europe this year, may still have to go to USA for work. For friends of mine who are now "too queer for the States," the boycott may be a permanent thing.

shadrachnorth.bsky.social•3 days ago

Seeing a lot of fellow Canadians commenting. Not taking the spring trip down to Florida and renting a condo on the beach.

rainbowdefault.bsky.social•3 days ago

Oh yeah, wouldn't risk it

goosetycoon.bsky.social•2 days ago

Canadian. Wife and i had to break it to our 11 year old that a trip to either Disney park isn't happening. Parents stayed home from Florida/South Carolina for the first time in 25 years too.

petewillis.bsky.social•2 days ago

Canadian

I can hold a grudge

a summer roadtrip into Montana and Wyoming that won't happen now

will the US economy collapse because we don't buy some gas and snacks and a few hotel rooms? no, but that's really not the point

vecede.bsky.social•3 days ago

I live in Buffalo and frequently go back and forth to Canada for concerts, restaurants etc and it has NEVER been easier to cross. Last Saturday we crossed at 6pm and there was zero line at customs, unheard of. Typically you wait for 20-30 min. Canadian tourism seems to have ground to a halt here.

zeebakermann.bsky.social•3 days ago

Im American but lived overseas in China and Japan and visited other countries in that time. I always hated flying back to the States because of the third degree I’d get from customs agents. Never a problem anywhere else.

p1t17.bsky.social•3 days ago

Canadian with family in the US. Will not be traveling to visit them for the foreseeable future and cancelled 2025 plans to do so.

p1t17.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'll add too that I (like a huge portion of our population) live in a town where cross border day trips were very common and the consensus among people I know is that no one has any interest in making those trips right now either.

mattkavanagh.bsky.social•3 days ago

I’m a Canadian academic and was planning on spending a few weeks doing research in Texas. Finding a new project now and I won’t be attending any conferences in the U. S. for the foreseeable future.

tpshea.bsky.social•3 days ago

Canadian. Had a great first visit to Philly last summer (Green Day on August 09, pancakes at the Reading Market every day) and was looking forward to exploring more great American cities in 2025 but fuck that noise. Now I'm even reticent to fly _over_ America en route to places farther south.

gabelacques.bsky.social•3 days ago

Those Reading Market pancakes are so good.

tpshea.bsky.social•3 days ago

Was seriously considering a repeat visit to Philly just to eat more pancakes. Luckily there are plenty of good Mennonite pancakes in Ontario too. Spending my dollars close to home for the foreseeable future.

thehomeworkogre.bsky.social•2 days ago

Cancelled a trip to NYC a month ago -- between potential border issues, not wanting to deal with wags making annexation jokes, the very real possibility of Hydro Quebec turning off the power, plane crashes, and general instability, it seemed like the smart idea

jessswear.bsky.social•3 days ago

Moving to the Netherlands in 2 weeks on an entrepreneur visa. Going to miss family and friends but so relieved to be leaving all *this*.

alexkirshner.com•3 days ago

making the "i should just blog this tweet" pivot without an editor forcing you is an unheard-of level of self-discipline in digital media

lukeoneil47.bsky.social•2 days ago

lol i didn't have much else planned

doctormcbrown.bsky.social•3 days ago

I am an American expat who left in 2023 seeing the writing on the wall. I have no interest in ever setting foot in the US again. In fact, after yesterday, I have cancelled my last business ties to the country.

dixon1999.bsky.social•2 days ago

My son left almost 10 yrs ago to teach English to Vietnamese school age kids and except for two visits home, one a vacation 3 yrs ago and last year just B/4 his dad died, will never live in country again.

doctormcbrown.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yeah my brother left in 97, moved to Singapore, and has never seriously considered returning to the US.

andyhhh.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm Canadian. We cancelled a family trip to Maine for the spring break.

wvv.bsky.social•3 days ago

don’t know if this is relevant exactly but I’m Australian and extending my (first) trip to the states soon a few weeks longer because I don’t know when/if I’ll be going back

melarune.bsky.social•3 days ago

White Brit with a white Norwegian wife, here. We have completely ruled out visiting the US for the foreseeable future. It simply isn't worth the hassle

lawrencewpg.bsky.social•3 days ago

Like all the other Canadians commenting, I won’t spend a cent in the US for at least the next four years, probably longer. It sucks, many past trips and good memories there, but the relentless annexation threats make you quickly reorient your priorities

davegrapes.bsky.social•3 days ago

I’m mulling over whether to still visit my friend in Seattle as I did last year. But places I’d previously longed to see like Nashville or New Orleans are right out. Is it due to actual safety concerns, or some form of spite, bitterness, or distaste? Not sure. Does it matter?

tattooed-thornback.bsky.social•2 days ago

I was planning to go to Vegas in Jan '25 for my bday. I cancelled that after the election. Given what I've seen since it's no longer a free country that's safe to travel to. I don't travel to Saudi Arabia or Russia due to their human rights abuses. USA is now also on that list

mikefriesen10.bsky.social•3 days ago

Canadian. Most of our travel plans were to the US: down to Minnesota for twins games, Arizona because the wife loves the desert. Invasion threats make you reconsider things.

jjofbc.bsky.social•3 days ago

I am a Canadian and even tho I haven't changed my gender markers and could pass as a butch "woman" without much more trouble than shaving my face, as a trans person I do not feel safe crossing the border

clairemarz.bsky.social•3 days ago

I live in a place that relies on tourism, and many of those tourists are Canadian. There are indications a lot of them won't be coming this year.

madnessgrill.bsky.social•3 days ago

Ngl as a trans person, the US for me is in the same category as Saudi Arabia or Russia, which is "do not go there ever*"

*could change if new, better policies pass ofc, but right now, absolutely not.

scatteredwords.bsky.social•3 days ago

Haven't you heard? You can no longer go. You wouldn't be able to get a visa for the US. Trans people are no longer welcome in the US.

Not sure how it's within the visa waiver program, but not something I would recommend anyone under the LGBTQA+ umbrella to test out.

madnessgrill.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yeah yeah I know, which is one of the reasons why I wouldn't travel there.