If this is right, you can see Putin’s play, the outlines of which have been obvious for some time. Make a demand European powers (let alone Ukraine) will be extremely reluctant to accept. Drive an even bigger wedge US and Europe... www.bloomberg.com/news/article... - ThreadSky

lewisgoodall.com • 4 days ago

If this is right, you can see Putin’s play, the outlines of which have been obvious for some time.

Make a demand European powers (let alone Ukraine) will be extremely reluctant to accept. Drive an even bigger wedge US and Europe... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-18/putin-is-said-to-want-all-arms-to-ukraine-halted-for-trump-truce

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momsrule.bsky.social•3 days ago

🖕Putin and 🖕child rapist Trump.

darksatanicmills.bsky.social•4 days ago

If you can see it Lewis why can't senior US intelligence and military personnel?

steviestevew.bsky.social•4 days ago

I’m sure they can.

Seeing and caring are two different things.

pckenny.bsky.social•4 days ago

Trump needs no additional help for that! Europe really needs to strengthen itself and fast so it can tell both where to go!

dirkjanmoedt.bsky.social•4 days ago

Sounds like "Ukraine, Nuclear Weapons, and Security Assurances".
And we all know how that is going.

buchanan101.bsky.social•4 days ago

Obvious to everyone except Trump.

philt602.bsky.social•4 days ago

Whatever happened to the Republican Party?!

Have they been totally subverted, or was there just a garage sale on spines?!

alanf.bsky.social•4 days ago

One would hope that if that's the case then Trump just tells Putin he can go fuck himself.
However, if that's the case and Trump acquiesces to the demand then Europe looks Trump straight in the eye and tells him he can go fuck himself.

antony-bof.bsky.social•3 days ago

I fear that is what we will have to do. And Trump is a typical thin skinned bully, aggressively rude but appalled when he spoken to as he speaks to others

denistheman.bsky.social•4 days ago

Cunning plan. Not so cunning that it's not obvious.

smfbooth.bsky.social•3 days ago

Putin wants war between the US and EU.

beneandhot.bsky.social•3 days ago

foukou.bsky.social•3 days ago

Wait wait wait, so what you're saying is that the author of The art of the deal, is so bad at negotiating, he can't spot an obvious long term power play? Or can he, but he has to go along with it or his pal will release the videos....

richardmoody.bsky.social•3 days ago

He didn't write his book. It's possible he hasn't even read it.

foukou.bsky.social•3 days ago

Good point. It's possible he can't even read!

julian-can.bsky.social•4 days ago

Putin wants all of Ukraine, Trump's 'deal' will just decide the route he takes to taking it.

massimovl.bsky.social•4 days ago

How about getting the hell out of Ukraine once and for all and going back to your shitty country? Ukranians will never stop fighting after having tasted freedom for 30 years. Never. Putin, you can hide behind the mad king but you have already lost. Also, do not forget that you are old.

thgraf.bsky.social•4 days ago

The average life expectancy of a Russian man is 65 years.
So Putin is already 7 years overdue.

massimovl.bsky.social•4 days ago

Exactly...so fingers crossed!

richardmoody.bsky.social•3 days ago

Putin does want peace he wants surrender and this is what he is demanding here. The only thing he hasn't asked for is that Ukraine handover all their arms.

drdarkmatter.bsky.social•4 days ago

Nah. He cab fuck off

markliamb.bsky.social•3 days ago

Extremely reluctant is a massive understatement - Europe is about to tell Putin and his Poodle Trump where they can stick their bromance.

dhughe3.bsky.social•4 days ago

Of course

dd-prague.bsky.social•4 days ago

Fairly sure most European leaders will have anticipated this manoeuvre. Except the British who still talk about the U.S. as "most trusted ally", etc.

ellinst.bsky.social•3 days ago

They talk about it but they don't believe it.

deanm97.bsky.social•4 days ago

For there to be an end, both sides have to agree to the end. Putin has never indicated a desire for, and will never agree to, an end.

chrisb64.bsky.social•4 days ago

Trump is stupid enough to consider it.

motorthing68.bsky.social•4 days ago

Perhaps the time for "caring" what America and Ruzzian Allied Dictatorships think of Us and Europe has passed, and we have the power and duty to help Ukraine without being quite so spineless anymore.

antony-bof.bsky.social•3 days ago

I fear the US is no longer a democratic country and that it is allied with the autocrats. Europe Britain Canada Australia and New Zealand must circle the wagons.

fatraccoon.bsky.social•4 days ago

Make yourself defenseless, for peace. 🤮

lewisgoodall.com•4 days ago

If Europe accepts then Ukraine is left defenceless as Russia rearms. If Europe doesn’t, they can blame Europe for breakdown in negotiations, get even closer to Trump, create more NATO chaos and press on with the war.

arthurga.bsky.social•4 days ago

And once Ukraine has been dealt with to Putin's satisfaction, I fully expect the US and Russia to begin attacking Canada.

kuyvonbraun.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm surprised Trump isn't supplying arms to russia...

He's certainly handing all Western intelligence directly to the Kremlin

soderbrod.nafofellas.com•4 days ago

This is where the rubber hits the road for 🇬🇧 and 🇪🇺. They likely knew this was coming so hope is their response is strong and resolute for 🇺🇦

alexcharles.bsky.social•4 days ago

Let’s see. The other question is Trumps staying power and outrunning Congress, the Judiciary, the electorate and other mutineers when they see their country becoming an economic basket case and fascist enterprise…

sisbromcdudeho.bsky.social•4 days ago

The endgame of breaking NATO is in sight. I do wonder if Trump would commit troops to fight alongside Russia in Ukraine…

nicktheinventor.bsky.social•4 days ago

I would add that it is speculation that ONLY Russia is trying to create the picture that it is Europe who is war mongering… versus an active joint strategy

malcreed.bsky.social•4 days ago

But surely the master deal-maker can find a way through this?

kuyvonbraun.bsky.social•4 days ago

Whatever happens will be heralded as his masterplan all along.

lucyarnold.bsky.social•4 days ago

Or Europe could accept on the basis that there is no movement of armaments and troops within Russia within 100km of the front line.

awheatley24.bsky.social•1 day ago

Politicians should refuse and make known Putin's likely tactics, as you have just done. Putin will manipulate whatever. We can only offer him a peace plan which will disadvantage him if he fails to recognise Ukraine's wishes.

iammrsdrake.bsky.social•4 days ago

And Trump completely lacks the wit or wisdom to see that he is being played like a fiddle.

bringthenoise.bsky.social•4 days ago

He’s following the Putin playbook at home, no reason not to bow to the master abroad…

alherix.bsky.social•4 days ago

You can be sure that Trump will fall for it

kuyvonbraun.bsky.social•4 days ago

He wants it...

robin.bobin.uk•4 days ago

Time for EATO!

Including Canada and Australia.

European Area Treaty Organisation. Let's go 💥

minghowriter.bsky.social•4 days ago

Best not to humour Trump then. Acknowledge that he and Putin act as one, and treat them accordingly.

debnicktom.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm hoping preparations are quietly going on to isolate the US and for Europe and Canada to become the de facto leaders of the democratic world. Such preparations should have been going on for years but it doesn't look likely that they have been.

antony-bof.bsky.social•3 days ago

When I asked GROK, Musk’s AI tool, what the likelihood was that Trump is a Russian asset it said the probability that is the case is 75-85%

debnicktom.bsky.social•3 days ago

Presumably the 15%-25% is the likelyhood that Trump is a brainless fool. Because it's one or the other.

doppyfuker.bsky.social•4 days ago

I think either way, it confirms the US is no longer reliable partner.

monkeymanmiggins.bsky.social•4 days ago

Good lord that’s a bleak outcome! I can’t help but feel we are going to just have to accept that the US is not going to come to our rescue here and do the best we can. Putins demands were always going to be one sided, so it’s not really too surprising if this happens!

urukhaiofisengard.bsky.social•4 days ago

Putin has Trump on toast, as already said he's already conceded the biggest levers he had in any negotiation ! He's an emotional and intellectual pygmy and will probably end up giving Putin everything he wants, perhaps without even realising it !

andrewcrompton.bsky.social•4 days ago

Just accept it: Europe, Canada and the rest of free world need to take on or surrender to the genocidal, oligarchic Russia/USA/Israel fascist axis. And the UK under Starmer will pick the wrong side.

ellinst.bsky.social•3 days ago

Au contraire. Starmer has been nailing his colors pretty firmly to Europe's mast. Just because he hasn't been openly hostile to Trump doesn't mean he doesn't realize what the stakes are.

somersetchris.bsky.social•4 days ago

On the day that Putin and Trump will divide the assets of Ukraine between them, Netanyahu bombs Gaza to divert media attention from what Trump is doing, and he also told Trump in advance of the bombing. Coincidence?

peterjbangert.bsky.social•4 days ago

Netanyahu has to keep his pet idiot informed so he can appear all-knowing and all-powerful.

topcatollie.bsky.social•4 days ago

Trump will agree to whatever Putin wants. Then he'll announce he has made a great deal, possibly the best deal ever. It'll totally shaft Ukraine. Trump then blames Zelenskyy for not wanting peace and cuts off support. Putin will be as happy as a pig in shit, because his bitch followed his play.

irishdreamer.bsky.social•4 days ago

That’s what I think as well.

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