Murray: "It is unlawful for a president to say 'I am going to decide where the money goes that Congress appropriated' ... you can't pass a law and then say, 'it doesn't apply to me.' That's what they are doing here."
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Unfortunately while it is illegal, the corrupt SCOTUS gave him immunity. And he will certainly pardon his henchmen unless he chokes to death on a hamberder or something.
Transparency and information about where the money goes, okay, but what she is saying is Elon Musk can't legally just stop money spent on things that Congress has written into law. It's Congress' job to decide how our money is spent. Do you believe in being a nation of laws?
Where was this mob violence you speak of? The right to protest is a cherished right in our country. They were exercising their right. I support elected leaders standing up for rule of law, not un-elected plutocrats trying to dictate their agenda to us.
Well Captain Obvious, FFOTUS's disregard for the law and paying no consequences is what has gotten us to this point. It's a bit late in the game to come to this epiphany now.
Everything according to the plan.
He told he was going to be a dictator.
He was a criminal but dems did nearly nothing to prevent him to be "president".
Enjoy.
Maybe we need to create some more School House Rock videos for the magats so they can learn some basics. Possibly the entire cabinet could benefit from some education on the laws of the country.
Then who is going to enforce the law? Whose job is it? Who are they?
Is it the FBI? The police? Or are these laws that just are metaphysical playthings for constitutional lawyers and podcasters to jack off to?
Laws are just words on a page if no one enforces them.
Both the Dems and Trump’s Cabel are going to force US to launch our own unpleasant government take back. I’d rather common sense and a little courage prevail, but there seems to be a shortage of both (on all sides) in Washington.
if it’s unlawful then do something about it!! It almost seems like they are conceding the rule of law. If so then are there any laws? Just those the president will enforce. It seems as if America as a functioning democracy is done
Ok dip. If you bothered to research anything about what the minority party can do. Not much when Republicans have a trifecta. Republicans can stop. Tell them. Pisses me off when you get nasty with the wrong person.
How in the world can you think that “stop it” is going to win the day? They had months to create plans to combat 2025. I’m sorry if you think helpless is okay. I don’t
Everybody keeps saying it’s wrong and it’s inappropriate but nobody can do anything because he has all the power because the American people are stupid as fuck
That is what they are doing because they are toddlers that have gotten away with this for decades bc they are rich white and have no shame. When you let grapists grape eventually it’s you who’s being graped. #capitalism
Why are they not removing him by force? Elon and doge have no authority. Essentially some rando just walked into the Treasury, hacked systems and isn't leaving. Why is this not treated like a heist/robbery and reported to police to remove him? What's the hold up?
Of course it's unlawful (in the pre-post Constitutional era. But this is the new POST Constitutional America. If you still think the Constitution governs this land you are simply deluding yourself. WE HAVE NO FUNCTIONING CONSTITUTION AT THIS MOMENT.
I went to prison for a year for the exact criminal charge Trump basically walked away from. Falsifying documents. I had to pay fines and restitution and rent for jail while I was waiting trial...ya I get that for real.
He wasn’t held accountable for those actions due to justice and Supreme Court decisions!
Now his second term he is trying to remove those checks/balances! GOP has been purged and the ones left are too weak to fight back! Our party democrats are just waking up and our courts are as well!
Trump has gotten away with a lot but he has been held accountable for something’s! He tried his best in the first term but our checks/balances were in place! There were republicans who still believed in the old GOP!
The old GOP believed in
Conservative principles
Individualism
Capitalism
Limited government
Lower taxes
Individual freedom
Strong National defense
Traditional values
That is what they were founded on!
They were able to compromise with democrats when it came time to pass legislation!
We're trapped in an MSNBC echo chamber. A lot of Republicans are abdicating their power and putting their seats at risk. We need to focus on breaking those folks and weakening their positions to make them vulnerable. Complaining about the rules when the other side could give 2 shits is hopeless.
It’s alarming that Republicans aint outraged over their personal data being accessed and manipulated. These unlawful actions don’t just target Democrats—all Americans are at risk. By ignoring this, they’re endangering their own rights and democracy itself. Musk and DOGE’s actions threaten everyone.
No, he can't be criminally prosecuted for crimes he uses his office to commit. But the courts can enjoin him or anyone else (Elton Musk) from taking unlawful actions (temporary restraining order/preliminary/ permanent injunction/writ of prohibition, and mandate obligatory actions (writ of mandamus).
seeing this just makes me more pissed at Senator Cantwell's complete and utter silence. Cantwell could be doing this but instead she's hiding from her constituents...
For heaven’s sake get the Capitol Police and haul Muscovite and accomplices OUT and arrest their asses - I am sick of this BS MUSKY has NO authority none nada zip
Dems DO SOMETHING NOW! The longer we don’t the worse will be
Exactly. The problem we have here is the media is treating this more like a curiosity than the five-alarm fire 🔥 it is. And if the people of this country don’t pick up a sense of urgency from the media then they will stay tuned out.
Exactly! Congress has the power of the purse and war powers. Any exceptions in law to that have NOT been met by President Trump, BUT INSTEAD, his Administration has failed in its Constitutional duties and service to The People and has become a severe National Security Threat To The United States.
Everyone, please call your senators right away. Tell them Senate business should come to a halt until it holds hearings on what Elon Musk now has access to. See https://indivisible.org
Additionally, DOGE is unconstitutional!!!
The executive branch does not have the authority to just start a new department on a whim; it must go through Congress making Musk and his band of boys with undeveloped frontal lobes civilian thieves.
Yet none of this applies to executive orders or a rogue billionaire grabbing up the fed and all of our info. Called Cap Police they said no, called metro PD and they said it's a federal thing. We know where the DOJ stands. Military is watching it happen and congress is as useless as one can be. 🙁
They'll do none of that. They're spineless and want to play nice with the Rs who are destroying our republic. I guess the constitution doesn't mean much to either party. I'm extremely discouraged.
God bless her. I know she's been fighting, but they have to do more than that. They have to show the Republicans. Especially in the senate, they have had it, & they are willing to do whatever it takes to stop this & if that means to shut the senate down, then so be it. @schumer.senate.gov
I want know why Senator @amyklobuchar.com helped fast track a Trump nominee on MONDAY. Yesterday. All the Dems on the Ag Committee unanimously voted for a climate denier with no experience to lead the Dept of Agriculture.
It certainly was, and it's not just for us.It's for all the poor people down there that work in those buildings.
This truly is just awful.They are the ones that are trying to overthrow the government.
While I very much agree with you that the time for decorum has passed. The escalation in rhetoric and Republican behavior within the past day suggests they want to say Democrats are trying to cause an insurrection. If that happens there will be no resistance and nothing will stop Elon or project2025
Absolutely! It's amazing to me how 4 yrs. later, we are still explaining the difference in a coup and inserection to people who have real-time information in seconds of they simply Google and read.
I agree that it's not an insurrection. Republicans are creating a coup to circumvent Congress' power. The tricky part here is Republicans are building groundwork with rhetoric to make it appear as an insurrection. Elon tweeted about Raskin's press conference earlier calling it "insurrection-y".
Elon can only send his minions on x the rhetoric. We need to stay strong and keep screaming that our media explain the differences in government take overs. Tonight I finally heard CNN Lawrence and Rachel explain the two types of takeovers. I was so happy to finally see media start standing up.
Yes, they should have been denying, delaying, blocking and absorbing all floor time since day 1. Trump was very clear what his plans were. And even those he denyed, like project 2025, was bogus where he nominated creators for positions. Democrats knew what was coming and allowed it to happen.
Where is the democratic leadership? Why aren’t they fighting back?
Why do we believe that these checks & balances are still in place? They are not! Law & order went out the window on January 20th.
Oralè Resisters
Thieves broke into our nations most sensitive information in the US Treasury system:
They were not government classified clearances employees: they broke the law. I would have been fired and prosecuted for accessing private citizens information when I was a Social Security employee!
Oralè Resisters
Thieves broke into our nations most sensitive information in the US Treasury system:
They were not government classified clearances employees: they broke the law. I would have been fired and prosecuted for accessing private citizens information when I was a Social Security employee!
Call out the National Guard! For God’s sake put a stop to this madness. You are the senior Senator from my state and I need you to step up and get forceful! Please! Aren’t there any Repugnicants who are ashamed and alarmed about this?
And yet, the Democrats have done nothing substantive. Lots of ‘it’s illegal, it’s unconstitutional, we need to talk about doing something’ and no real doing anything. They’re all the same, the Republicans are just up front about it.
They are waiting to purchase villas in Gaza Mar-a-Lago. The republican party is DEAD, replaced by king Trump's MAGA movement which threatens, terrorizes, and replaces any that get out of line.
Yada Yada
The job you guys get voted into is not a book recital club or poetic society
It’s lawmaking so maybe time to move them soft flabby behinds of yours ….!!!
Republicans don't care. They still "officially" have their precious seats, which is apparently much more important than the Constitution and our way of life. What do they think will be left standing when he's done burning it all down? They're so dumb.
It's a violation of the Constitution, that's what makes this a Constitutional Crisis that requires unanimous opposition instead of senate @democrats.org siding with cabinet secretary selections.
It's funny when a politician, who is actually in the position to do something about it, goes on TV to waste everybody's time saying: "Someone should do something about it". And that's why nothing will be done.
It’s only illegal if someone charges him with a crime, in court, and he is found guilty. Otherwise it is just your opinion versus those who will support him no matter what.
This is important. We need more people explaining to "normies" what exactly is going on and why it is a hair-on-fire situation. Not the "we need these programs" stuff, the GOP will message that away. We need screaming about how they are illegally cancelling laws they dont like
Trump doesn't care if it's unlawful. Trump doesn't believe laws/ethics/standards apply to him or his oligarchs. Trump will continue to do whatever he can get away with.
Neither the Administrative Procedure Act nor the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 have built-in penalties, eg fines or prison for violations.
So if TFFG etc ignore the courts and defy Congress, the only recourse is impeachment.
And we couldn't make THAT stick for a violent insurrection.
Thanks for the rational explanation to NMP irrational decrees. He believes, like a crazy person, if he thinks it, it must be so.
The first time he stole the election from Hillary, I prayed that some other country would build him a monument so he would just go away.
They are banking on their “hostile takeover” being complete before any court process can or will stop them. By then it will be too late. They will have complete control of government. This is going to come down to citizens taking back their country/government if congress doesn’t stop it.
Since nobody is actually doing anything, how about bombarding the NSA with calls about unauthorized traitors? https://www.nsa.gov/helpful-links/contact-nsa/ @chuckschumer.com is displaced and totally unknowledgeable about how IT works while Musk is taking him and the country out.
Trump is impounding congressionally appropriated funds and that is 100% against the law. He's done it multiple times now and it's only been 3 f*cking weeks.
I don’t even listen to their pronouncements anymore. The Democrats are so disappointing. At this point all I want to hear is GEN Milley was sighted at the head of a column of tanks headed up I-95.
Not true. We have to rely on courts and massive backlash from the people. Dipshitler doesn't want to be unpopular ... or mocked. It consumes his brain. His sh*t will disrupt and hurt but it won't work. Wait till you see the global reaction from his Gaza vomit.
It's great how hugely optimistic you are! How delightful, to believe the court he owns will disagree with what some of them have clearly said are their personal goals, and that there will be effective social movements. The large BLM protests certainly got him to change his mind and support it!
Yo, don't be an ass. I'm not being as much optomistic as realistic. Constitutional law is not getting overturned & a dictatorship does the GOP Congressional majorities & SCOTUS zero good. It eliminates their power, their protection & their money-making abilities. But yes, we're in stressful times.
I do hope the optimism from you and all the "our checks and balances are fine and everything will be fine" newspaper writers pans out. I'm just not personally there at this time.
If not the check and balances approach, then what do YOU propose. What's your alternative plan? Violent revolt? That's exactly what he wants so he can enact martial law. Once that happens, things really get dark and bleek ... and much harder to stall.
This is important because the banking Lobby is huge and if they believe that enough of us are going to start pulling money out of banks because of Doge , they're going to start putting pressure on the Republican Party.
In fairness, getting in front of the camera and saying these things IS part of what she can do about it, and she is doing that.
I wish she'd use more forceful language than this. More direct, emotional appeals. Something like "WE ARE LOSING OUR COUNTRY HERE PEOPLE. THIS IS SERIOUS."
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All official presidential duties, according to SCOTUS, no doubt
I work very hard and don't want the money taken from me to be stolen or spent frivolously.
Funny how Democrats aren't at all interested in oversight and exposing misappropriation. Why is that?
Legally. Like you said.
And that doesn't include standing on the street inciting mob violence against Elon and his staff like Schumer, Pressley, Waters and Crockett.
He told he was going to be a dictator.
He was a criminal but dems did nearly nothing to prevent him to be "president".
Enjoy.
Is it the FBI? The police? Or are these laws that just are metaphysical playthings for constitutional lawyers and podcasters to jack off to?
Laws are just words on a page if no one enforces them.
Please
Now—are you going to do ANYTHING?
Anything at all?
The truth is that the Idiocracy ceased officially to be a rule of law nation when Biden got sworn in and set about avoiding justice.
The "justice" system is bulltrump.
ELON MUSK AND HIS LITTLE BOYS HAVE COMMITTED THIS ACT.
Nothing anyone SAYS means shite to the GOP NAZI's.
Now his second term he is trying to remove those checks/balances! GOP has been purged and the ones left are too weak to fight back! Our party democrats are just waking up and our courts are as well!
When they stood for something?
Conservative principles
Individualism
Capitalism
Limited government
Lower taxes
Individual freedom
Strong National defense
Traditional values
That is what they were founded on!
They were able to compromise with democrats when it came time to pass legislation!
Dems DO SOMETHING NOW! The longer we don’t the worse will be
Voters must fund their opponents with a national organization #target18 to stop the illegal behavior.
Stop them.
Please.
But I’m not the law
Oh wait! That doesn’t work either!
What can it mean?!
The executive branch does not have the authority to just start a new department on a whim; it must go through Congress making Musk and his band of boys with undeveloped frontal lobes civilian thieves.
IMPERATIVE EVERY DEMOCRAT
DOES THIS NOW
@schumer.senate.gov
@amyklobuchar.com
@hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social
@murray.senate.gov has been attacking Musk's thievery extra haed the past few days. We need to send ger office coffee.
I want know why Senator @amyklobuchar.com helped fast track a Trump nominee on MONDAY. Yesterday. All the Dems on the Ag Committee unanimously voted for a climate denier with no experience to lead the Dept of Agriculture.
This truly is just awful.They are the ones that are trying to overthrow the government.
I don't mind explaining further, characters are super limited here and I try not to comment multiple posts as a response if it can be helped.
The MAGA Republicans and administration are causing a coup and trying to overthrow the governmental powers.
WHO IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?
Where is the democratic leadership? Why aren’t they fighting back?
Why do we believe that these checks & balances are still in place? They are not! Law & order went out the window on January 20th.
Talking is not going to do a darn thing.
What is the red line for this country?
Reject the Constitution, there is no Executive nor is there a president.
A rope and a sturdy oak might het their attention.
Thieves broke into our nations most sensitive information in the US Treasury system:
They were not government classified clearances employees: they broke the law. I would have been fired and prosecuted for accessing private citizens information when I was a Social Security employee!
Thieves broke into our nations most sensitive information in the US Treasury system:
They were not government classified clearances employees: they broke the law. I would have been fired and prosecuted for accessing private citizens information when I was a Social Security employee!
The shoe is on the other foot, the tables have turned.
Question is, what do we do about it?
Spineless cowards.
The job you guys get voted into is not a book recital club or poetic society
It’s lawmaking so maybe time to move them soft flabby behinds of yours ….!!!
Meanwhile America is being taken over. FFS
Or whatever these people have become? We need to call the senators as well. And thank you for stepping up Senator Murray.
So
He will continue to break the law
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lhevbg5atb26
How about if he can't do something, maybe you stop him from doing it then report that you put a stop to it. That would be a little more helpful.
It’s a constitutional emergency!
Don’t be polite! Keep up the fight!
Proud of our Washington senators.
https://www.ngrippel.com/ngr-politics.html
This is where they want to take us. Evil.
https://bsky.app/profile/yodelingfish.bsky.social/post/3lhepln2ubs2a
So if TFFG etc ignore the courts and defy Congress, the only recourse is impeachment.
And we couldn't make THAT stick for a violent insurrection.
Every day Trump proves that he is a Nazi.
We are now deep into the "What are you going to do about it?" phase.
The first time he stole the election from Hillary, I prayed that some other country would build him a monument so he would just go away.
The Supreme Court has already said that any official act by Trump as president is immune.
Well, it doesn't, does it?
He's the first convicted felon to become POTUS.
He IS above the law.
America, you created this problem.
I wish she'd use more forceful language than this. More direct, emotional appeals. Something like "WE ARE LOSING OUR COUNTRY HERE PEOPLE. THIS IS SERIOUS."