We gave up on them and they grew. We need to regain the art of talking to ppl. Dems will throw their hands up and walk away from someone forever. Meanwhile, MAGA will talk until the sun burns out if for nothing more than to hear their own voice. Talk enough and some ppl will listen.
It’s rare to get a dem at one of his town halls because he only invites supporters. If Dems find out about a town hall it’s by word of mouth or after it’s over. Logan county has 161 registered dems. Roger Marshall doesn’t even live here 😡 he makes me so mad.
Yes we have a 35K group of Kansas women for Kamala on facebook but I’d been boycotting facebook since markie z fawned up to Trump, but I was over there yesterday & I see they found out about it & some folks from that drove all the way out there. You have to because he never has town halls east.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM. Way back when Hillary lost I heard an radio interview with a Trump-voting kid working in a rust-belt ice cream shop. He said he didn't like Trump but picked him because he visited 5x. Meanwhile, Hillary came 1x, to a wealthy town nearby, for a $6k plate dinner🤦♀️. YOU SHOW UP!
Whoa whoa. Absolutely not. A lot of the "SAFE" districts have the numbers to overturn cockroach traitor R, it's just that the people in them can be so demoralized and think it's hopeless, which self fulfil
We need mass social triggers, like shit the moron in office is doing for us (firing everyone)
This is a state that voted to keep abortion in the Constitution. He could lose because of the farmers getting screwed by tariffs and cuts to veterans benefits and medicaid.
I agree to a point. However, when Democrat leaders get involved maga losses the objective and let’s rage and bias take over. It has to be the right time! People have to really notice who is doing what and this is the only way in my opinion!
We need a NEW party! Grab AOC, Raskin, Crockett et al & leave the stuffy corporate Dems behind & make Bernie the Leader! We can worry about a Presidential candidate later. And no, it can't be 1 that has already lost & absolutely not GN of Cali! No more Corp Dems! 😈
Maybe if their own lived experience differs from what their media continues to tell them a lightbulb will finally come on? At least for some, we can hope!
Even that ass-kisser Bezos is now telling the Washington Post what to write and that crazy DJ Vance is getting on stage in Europe and complaining that our freedom of speech is in danger, what do these idiots think they're doing, throw them out of the White House!
Will they accept the truth from the folks they have been told are the real danger to the country? There's a lot of damage to overcome, and it won't be possible as long as they are still engaged with those sources.
very true
it's a hard sell
since Dems can't offer a fix - and the only truth we can offer is ugly
the cult hated Biden even tho he fought inflation, created jobs, increased min wage & added Medicaid
there's poison in the well
I can only hope ppl wake up when they find out how screwed they now are
I think if we can get everyone to stop thinking of themselves as “Dem” or “Repub”, and instead focus on their values, we’d find more common ground than one would think.
Exactly! While the entire world is shaking their heads and feeling embarrassment for the utter reprehensible behavior of Trump and Vance, they are being celebrated on Fox News and right wing echo chambers. So all these peeps wouldn't even know about this or wouldn't even see it on negative light.
Some of them are waking up. If Trump actually won the election at all, he won by margins where he can't afford to lose even a sliver of his base. ...He's losing them in droves.
Assuming we can hold onto actual elections, maga is toast.
Buuut instead we have bobbleheads running the dems, soooo...
You should take a closer look at the subtext :) Yeah if Trump isn't removed from office within the first six months, American democracy is over. There were a lot of well-wishing "assuming" caveats in my post.
It’s so frustrating that No One From either the Democrats or Republicans has stepped up to Object.
Where the hell are the leaders? Why are you quiet and complicit in this.
He didn’t win, voter suppression won. 7 out of 5 swing states voted in a democratic senator, but still voted in a republican candidate for President? So 2 to 3% of those voters down ballot blue, but voted Trump. 10% of Nevada voters down ballot blue but voted Trump?
That's why it's crucial that progressives demand an actual candidate. If we can escape Putin's grasp, Trump will lose those voters. The question remains, do they turn to someone on the left, or do they turn to a more charismatic RW oligarch?
^ R's have plans in place for filling seats from school board up
^ they 4 for seats that are unopposed
^ they have phone trees
^ they're already registering voters
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^register when they do stupid sh*t?
^ catch the ones switching?
^ get more support from elected officials to help make some plans??
white girl sez I hate that orange fucker
I hate knowing people believed his lies & thought he gave a shit about them, not just their votes
he only cares about himself
he's a greedy, power seeking, sore loser, tantrum throwing a-hole w/ the emotional maturity of a 3 yr old
IDK why ppl can't see it
Unless it's a complete waste of resources. Their research tells them if there's ANY chance of making inroads. These people seem unreachable. They ONLY look for another Republican who's willing to tell them what they want to hear. i.e. LIE to them new and shinily..and BOOM, new dose of snake oil!
Wackos on X aside, the majority of Trump voters from these constituencies voted for him because they were lied to. They are key to getting rid of the bastard. The Dems need to go, listen, show compassion & pull them back to reality with some face to face talks. Show them they care more than MAGA do
Doesn’t matter how much pain they feel. They’ll still hate minorities and people who live in cities and love manly men who push around gays and the like.
They’re not our people. They won’t vote for anything different.
Let those fuckers rot out there in their own hatred and ignorance.
They're only a lost cause if we do absolutely nothing to reach them. If they're pissed and hurting from all the pain being inflicted upon us all, they may be more open to a new face who shows up and actually addresses their concerns.
I understand your sentiments on some level, but gerrymandering, people's inertia and their short memories are the reasons we are here in the first place.
And propaganda. Tons of progress and disinformation from many sources, including ones formerly trustworthy. A constant stream that defies fact checking because fact checking requires more time than making up a lie.
A lie travels around the world before truth has its shoes on.
Glad you're not a campaign strategist. Giving up before you even try, delegating whole swaths of people as others and "lost causes..." it's cowardice. It's revenged centered mindset.
I am absolutely glad tlas well. I neither have patience nor the desire to deal with morons that vote against their own interests because of idiotic things like God, religion, good old days and other such BS. You are welcome to reach out to these people. They are dead to me.
No they haven't. You're just making stuff up and following the RU talking points that have been creating division for about 2 years now. Stop being part of the problem.
It’s a poor strategy to reject people who could be potential allies because of our shared grievances. And we’re all grieved about veterans despite what you may think about the people who said it now is the time to capitalize on things that unite us.
They're not a lost cause. There's no active Democratic Party in many of these counties. For inspiration look at the work @piperformissouri.bsky.social is doing.
Are they? When Republicans are royally fucking up, that's the time to reach out. Will everyone of them change their political party? No, but some will.
As a Kansan, we are much more purple than most of the country realizes. We regularly elect Democratic governors. Presidential elections are not landslides. We voted down the abortion ban when it mattered. A bit more support, and some of these seats might be able to be flipped.
Kansas hasn't voted a Democrat in presidential elections in forever. Kansas has voted for trump over Harris, Biden and Clinton. Voted for dubys twice, voted against Obama twice, against gore, against Bill Clinton, against even Carter. Not sure how that makes the state purple.
You can’t just judge us based on the presidential. We’ve had multiple female governors. Since the 60’s we’ve elected a Dem gov more times than a Republican one. We were the first state to protect choice after Roe fell. The majority here are for Medicaid expansion, legal weed.
Honestly, these areas have been too poisoned against the dem label. It doesn't matter what Rs do. We need to run Independents that will support democracy in these places to have a shot.
This is way too defeatist. The DEMs abandoned these districts decades ago. Support insurgent independents who will not have the stench of the Democratic Party.
I live in Kentucky which I think is the only red state with a Democrat governor who is very popular. If national dems came here - not just Bernie- and LISTENED to people, I believe they could have a stronger presence here. The DNC has written off so much of the country.
I wish we had a Democratic candidate in the audience who could have stood up, empathize and then tell them how Dems would have handled things differently.
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We need mass social triggers, like shit the moron in office is doing for us (firing everyone)
but people who make the effort to tear themselves away from their tv sets to attend a Town Hall
are looking for answers
GOP is selling us out
maybe Dems can't fix
but a dose of truth is where it starts
it's a hard sell
since Dems can't offer a fix - and the only truth we can offer is ugly
the cult hated Biden even tho he fought inflation, created jobs, increased min wage & added Medicaid
there's poison in the well
I can only hope ppl wake up when they find out how screwed they now are
The GOP have always been selling you out ever since Rush Limbaugh and New Gingrich days.
The problem simply got worse with Russian-agent Rupert Mudoch's Fox Propaganda Network.
It betrays them right to their faces.
Assuming we can hold onto actual elections, maga is toast.
Buuut instead we have bobbleheads running the dems, soooo...
Trump said it before he was put in place and you should take him f...ING serious
His Russian friends and Elon Minions will find a way to get you from winning votes.
Where the hell are the leaders? Why are you quiet and complicit in this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j4p_RgeuuJc
^ they 4 for seats that are unopposed
^ they have phone trees
^ they're already registering voters
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^register when they do stupid sh*t?
^ catch the ones switching?
^ get more support from elected officials to help make some plans??
* even if that were true, these are top level diplomats. the only way they know to respond is like kindergarteners?
we go FOR them
it's on us to figure out how
Not my Black Job
I hate knowing people believed his lies & thought he gave a shit about them, not just their votes
he only cares about himself
he's a greedy, power seeking, sore loser, tantrum throwing a-hole w/ the emotional maturity of a 3 yr old
IDK why ppl can't see it
weird, deluded, cultish & insane
cuz he is such an ass
& clearly a snake oil salesman ... don't have a clue why anyone's dumb enough to trust a word he says
They’re not our people. They won’t vote for anything different.
Let those fuckers rot out there in their own hatred and ignorance.
A lie travels around the world before truth has its shoes on.