My prediction: when this all hits the fan in the polls, Trump will shitcan Musk and blame all the unpopular effects on him - and maga will swallow it happily.
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Musk is digging in though. If he's canned he will take all his boys with him leaving a broken FAA, broken DHS etc etc which will make Trump responsible for them.
He can’t, Musk stole him the election. I’m begging folks to watch the “Dark Gothic MAGA” video and the Behind the Bastards eps. about Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel, & to finish with https://electiontruth.bsky.social letting folks know that votes were hacked & that this is all part of a technofascist agenda.
Agree. His patsy will be the faceplate for the destruction and corruption. When the rest of the US wakes up, Musty will be the fall guy. And he doesn’t have immunity.
He may, but I don't see it.
He'll make excuses to avoid clashes.
I imagine Musk already told him things are going to get rocky before they calm down.
He may raise an eyebrow if markets crater, but there's too much capital in the markets right now to trigger sustained down swings. (volatility? yes)
I tend to agree. I thought from the beginning that musk will, of course, outshine trump, and the trump ego would blow up and push musk off the cliff, BUT, someone pointed out that they both have so much filth on each other (Epstein, etc.) that they’re both trapped. It’s all so sickmaking.
I agree but it’s important to emphasize that Musk is acting under Trump’s authority, and by allowing this to happen, Trump is responsible for what Musk does
By allowing Musk to lead DOGE, Trump is essentially endorsing his methods and decisions, which is why it's essential to hold Trump accountable for the consequences of Musk's actions.
This is especially significant given the controversy surrounding DOGE's actions, including allegations of corruption and fraud, and concerns about transparency and accountability.
That's a crucial point to highlight - Elon Musk's actions as the head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) are indeed under the authority of Donald Trump, making Trump ultimately responsible for Musk's decisions.
Trump can’t shitcan him, but he can use his ability to shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose support and his presidential immunity to protect the country if he needs to.
He is stuck w Musk
Musk knows the truth about the election
He helped w swing states
Trump cannot ever say anything neg abt him
He has to swallow everything quietly
Musk's whole ass is hanging out in the breeze. Right now he's useful to Trump. If he ceases to be useful, or if he assesses too much power, he can be squashed like a bug.
I don’t think he can “shitcan” him…He owes him bigly! Something not right. Musk has something on him. Musk is essentially the President and Trump has to let him be
I believed that until I saw F47 twiddling his thumbs behind the Resolute desk as Musk's kid shushed him while Musk entertained the media. Musk is clearly in charge.
I don't understand this prediction. It's very obvious Musk owns him and is the shadow prez. There's no way Trump gets rid of Musk. There is a possibility of taking Trump out and installing Vance.
Elon no longer needs #StinkyMcFelon. Now that Tя☭mp has ceded his powers to an unelected non-native-born fascist, Donnie’s sole raison d’être is to generate fluff material (gulf, Daytona, etc.) to distract from Musk’s pillaging of our nation.
I don't know. I HOPE this happens, but a) that won't undo all the damage Musk has wrought, and b) I'm afraid Musk has Intel on Pappy Trump that Pappy is actually frightened of.
I'd love to be wrong.
My vision is Musk blunders into a huge irreparable mistake that gloms onto Trump so severe that he will leave office. MAGA will forgive him and project all blame onto Musk.
I wish I was as optimistic. 45 will say the polls are fake. EM is cover for 45. Until 45 is done with his revenge tour, has secured a site for his hotel in Gaza, allowed Russia to takeover Ukraine, passed a national abortion ban, dismantles the ACA and eliminates gov agencies, he needs EM’s chaos.
And I'm looking forward to that moment, because straight MAGA is less dangerous than Musk. My prediction has been that it will happen when we hit the debt ceiling next month. We'll end up with a year-long CR, Musk out, and a Congress that exercises some checks on executive power.
Oh of course MAGA will. Question is whether the "casual" Trump voter lets him off the hook. He's supposed to be Mister Business Guy, the Boss! And he let that crazy rich African guy or whatever run around for months??
If he's still alive by the mid-terms. I'm convinced there'll be a Putin/Thiel/Vance plan for Trump to have a convenient fatal 'heart attack' at some point.
Shouldn't this be hitting the polls already? Or really soon? Fully agree that'll be the tipping point that eventually turns Trump on Musk - that NEEDS to happen
Trump has no more elections to win. I don’t think polls are that important to him anymore. Staying out of prison was the goal this time around and he accomplished that.
What if Musk just lied and said he fixed them? Musk lies about what he can do all the time. Trump is fool enough to believe it. I mean, the result is the same. He's Musk's bitch, but maybe he figures it out at some point.
There are thousands of things to go after Trump and Muck for without resulting to baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election. Unless you like being a left wing version of Mike Lindell….
Though I did see speculation that Musk TOLD Trump he rigged it for him. Trump would then never go against Musk because he’s afraid his secret will get out.
Ha, I saw that too. I forget who it was. But the idea that they tricked Trump into believing the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen FOR him. I don't believe this but it's a hilarious notion.
In real life though, if you told Trump that he just wouldn't believe you. There was no way he could lose if it was fair. He's the best! He'd forget you ever told him that as soon as he could.
Pssst…Bomb Threats, voter roll purging & gerrymandered districts are not conspiracy theories. I do question it. And, I have questioned three, thus far. 32% of eligible voters did this. Not a sweeping mandate.
Not sure the polls ("fake!") can matter this time. The true cultists won't leave him no matter how bad things get. They'll just demand Trump get more power and exact more retribution on the people he blames.
Not the polls it is going to take us the people a massive uproar in the streets to take the the country back but we’re not there yet but it will come within a year
I think trump is too stupid, too senile or both to know what's going on around him. I mean, listen to his answers when some polite journalist has the nerve to ask him a question: "we'll see what happens ', 'we need peace'.
No shit, Dick Tracy
Other way around. Musk will bring the 25th down on Donnie's head as soon as he stops cooperating. The situation of privatizing all of the US and getting to be a trillionaire is way too alluring for Musk to allow Trump to stand in his way.
His voters are passive to other people’s lives being destroyed by the mass firings. They want to “give him a chance” to “make changes” and fix the country
I think there is at least a possibility that Musk consolidates enough power by then that Trump’s attempt to purge him fails. No idea what happens after that.
I hope it’s still as simple as that, but we’re already off in the “hic sunt dracones” corner of the map. About the only thing I can say with confidence is that whatever ends up happening will be very stupid.
I don’t see why Trump has to worry about the polls. MAGA has two years to institute voter disqualification and suppression, and they will certainly introduce a board of review that certifies or rejects election results from the states.
Its likely that legitimate elections are over in this country
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He'll make excuses to avoid clashes.
I imagine Musk already told him things are going to get rocky before they calm down.
He may raise an eyebrow if markets crater, but there's too much capital in the markets right now to trigger sustained down swings. (volatility? yes)
Musk knows the truth about the election
He helped w swing states
Trump cannot ever say anything neg abt him
He has to swallow everything quietly
Best case scenario is Donald does leave peacefully after his term ends. He doesn't need to face the voters again.
He's not the dried age roadkill carcass or a bimbo that Kellyanne Conway was.
He comes from money, is a genuine generational nazi.
Elon no longer needs #StinkyMcFelon. Now that Tя☭mp has ceded his powers to an unelected non-native-born fascist, Donnie’s sole raison d’être is to generate fluff material (gulf, Daytona, etc.) to distract from Musk’s pillaging of our nation.
I'd love to be wrong.
Though I did see speculation that Musk TOLD Trump he rigged it for him. Trump would then never go against Musk because he’s afraid his secret will get out.
No shit, Dick Tracy
trump has a history...
My read was always that he delights too much in humiliating his enemies to just have them quietly whacked.
FAA will be the first one. He's there today.
Unless Putin has the pee tape, there is no one on this earth with more Trump kompromat than Elon. And that makes Elon extremely valuable to Putin.
Trump has no leverage to get rid of Musk and both are well aware of it.
You actually think poll numbers will stop these insanely greedy amoral pigs?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/business/musk-irs-doge.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
Trump has the leverage here if/when he decides to use it. Musk has no real power and no one likes him enough to defend him.
Its likely that legitimate elections are over in this country