Voted Labour? This is on you. Hope you can sleep at night. www.thenational.scot/news/2499255... - ThreadSky

andy-s-64.bsky.social • 4 days ago

Voted Labour? This is on you.

Hope you can sleep at night.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24992553.uk-government-slammed-amid-welfare-budget-cuts-reports/

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sovietcola.bsky.social•4 days ago

Didn't vote Labour and imagine I never will again. Shameful pack of jackals.

semaleena.bsky.social•4 days ago

I did all my life, absolutely did not in the last election

Disgusting traitors

ogredragon.bsky.social•4 days ago

accused... where is the Proof.. or don't bots know what that word is?

semaleena.bsky.social•4 days ago

What are you talking about

ogredragon.bsky.social•4 days ago

words " Accused" in some news paper doesn't equal guilty of the accusation

sammibunny.bsky.social•4 days ago

It was found in court that is NOT about getting people into work. It is purely and solely about cutting costs. That's it.

hollybrigstocke.bsky.social•4 days ago

The Green party are the alternative. I voted Green and got a Green MP. I'm very happy with her.

As for Labour? Starmer's a bully and a nasty man and a bigot. They're living out an unchecked Blairite fantasy. Blue Labour are conflicted Tories. Their guru Maurice Glassman is a far right nutter.

natbat71.bsky.social•4 days ago

I held my nose and voted Labour to get rid of a Tory, tactically it was the only vote where I live.

I never trusted Starmer, but I never envisioned he would do this.

But seeing as the Tories had been killing tens of thousands (500k?) with austerity and COVID mismanagement,

There was no choice.

ladyaranea.bsky.social•3 days ago

Labour have responded to those deaths by... expanding the austerity. They've taken Tories' policies regarding trans people and expanded on them. They've taken Tories' hatred of immigrants and run with it. They aren't even mitigating the damage; they're doing more.

natbat71.bsky.social•3 days ago

Don't worry, I'm absolutely disgusted by them now, I think Morgan McSweeney is the largest driver of this abhorrent direction they've taken, he's a cunt.

My father was lifelong socialist, he said he was glad he was dying when The Borifice was around, I'm so glad he's not here to see this now.

rosieanne29.bsky.social•4 days ago

Everyone knows people who play the disability card when they’re capable of working. It’s those people who’ll be encouraged to work not the genuine. I’ve a child, she’s suffered chronic illness from youth, we’ve always encourage her to work she’s almost 50 now and she thrives.

callie.rebelwrath.co.uk•3 days ago

You know people you THINK can work but aren't
PIP has a 0% fraud rate, according to gov figures, so it's extremely unlikely you're right

natbat71.bsky.social•4 days ago

Benefit fraud £1.7b

Unclaimed benefits £17b

Rich people avoiding tax £122b minimum.

I don't know anyone at the moment claiming benefits who can work, personally speaking, but I know they exist, just.

Most people trying to game it have found it's just far too much effort for what they get back.

callie.rebelwrath.co.uk•3 days ago

I'm on benefits, not getting disability yet (I applied 12 months ago, it's still getting sorted) I get 650 a month. My outgoings are about 900, I'm living on my credit cards and hoping they sort the disability money soon
I can work, pt only. I'm applying for every job in my area and getting nowhere

callie.rebelwrath.co.uk•3 days ago

I got sacked from my last job because I asked to be changed to part time

A lot of jobs won't bother doing reasonable adjustments, it's easier to just not hire disabled people

A lot of those disabled people who "can work" really want to work and are applying for tonnes of jobs

callie.rebelwrath.co.uk•3 days ago

Punishing us isn't going to change the job market

rosieanne29.bsky.social•4 days ago

Unfortunately after working in an inner city community I do. There’s no encouragement to help them join the workforce, no encouragement for them, they deserve a chance.

callie.rebelwrath.co.uk•3 days ago

Yeah, we do, but the biggest problem we face is employers

Cutting benefits isn't encouragement by the way

It's all stick, no carrot

ladyaranea.bsky.social•3 days ago

No they don't.

sylvia-suffragette.bsky.social•4 days ago

4+million people claiming disability benefits, with 56% of those doing some sort of work. So of the millions of people claiming disability, how many do you know who are ‘playing the disability card’? Because it is all claimants that will suffer not just the one’s you ‘know’

rosieanne29.bsky.social•4 days ago

Not if it’s done properly, some just need support and encouragement.

sylvia-suffragette.bsky.social•4 days ago

Because the DWP is full of support and encouragement (not)

rosieanne29.bsky.social•4 days ago

That’s why I fully support a different approach and hopefully it will happen. To many lives have been wasted by a look after yourself and victimhood mentality. We should be caring for our people without doubt, but not abandoning them.

jacklikesfilms.bsky.social•4 days ago

Why didn't you envision he would do this? He spent several years repeatedly telling everyone he would do this

natbat71.bsky.social•4 days ago

I don't remember him revealing himself to the extent you suggest I'm afraid, but I knew he was a snake.

So, who should I have voted for, given it was a two horse race where I live?

It's always been that way here, thanks to a nuclear shipyard dominating everything.

jacklikesfilms.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's a two horse race because you keep accepting that it's a two horse race. The only way that ever changes is if you show those two options that you're not listening to them any longer.

natbat71.bsky.social•4 days ago

Labour = 18,537 votes

Conservative and Unionist = 13,213

Reform = 7,035

LibDem = 1,680

Green Party = 1,466

Party of Women = 290

That's what is here, it will be Reform next time probably.

jacklikesfilms.bsky.social•4 days ago

If Reform win it'll be because Labour voters keep telling Labour they'll vote for them no matter how right-wing they are.

ladybuzzard.bsky.social•4 days ago

As if we don’t suffer enough as disabled people, the government has to make it worse.

gerray.bsky.social•4 days ago

I don’t agree with what Labour are doing, but who are you saying we should have voted for instead? The Tories?

christhomas7.bsky.social•4 days ago

Pretty much every seat in the country had at least someone to the left of Labour standing. You can debate whether voting for them would've been sensible or not but thinking the only option was Labour or Tory is just silly.

gerray.bsky.social•4 days ago

What’s silly? Who is this party who is not Labour or Tory who could have won the election?

totr.bsky.social•4 days ago

Literally any party can win the election. You'll get 3/1 on Reform right now, you stupid flatulent cunt

sloanefragment.bsky.social•4 days ago

it’s not all about downing street.

if labour didn’t have such a massive majority they wouldn’t be able to implement some of their crueller policies.

gerray.bsky.social•4 days ago

That’s not how voting works though. You can’t pick the size of a majority. You can vote for someone else but you didn’t vote to take out the Tories then, you voted to feel good about yourself. That’s fine, but you don’t get to pontificate to the ones who sucked it up and voted to take out the Tories

fasterfizzier.bsky.social•4 days ago

We get it, it doesn't affect you, so you don't care.

totr.bsky.social•4 days ago

Hey, Gerry? Nobody needs your permission, nobody requires your approval, and what you're defending here is literal social murder, so you better be sure you're happy to be on the end of what you're advocating as pragmatism

forsardines.bsky.social•4 days ago

You got the Tories out and look what it got you. Congrats.

fritzdrybeam.bsky.social•4 days ago

Take out the Tories?
By voting for people that are more right wing, than the Tories?
What a master plan.

tgnprofessor.bsky.social•4 days ago

The Tories were never going to win the election, but there were plenty of seats where a less awful candidate could have won. Wes Streeting, one of the worst people in the cabinet, only won by about 500 votes.

laotianrockrat.bsky.social•4 days ago

Does your vote make you feel good about yourself?

thirteentwelve.bsky.social•4 days ago

"that's not how voting works though"

jacklikesfilms.bsky.social•4 days ago

And this is why nothing ever improves. Countless dickheads saying "But I had to vote for the shit thing or the shit thing would've happend"

Stop letting politicians know they don't have to earn your vote.

mamtor.bsky.social•4 days ago

Exactly. Even if your votes don't change government they can change policy. If there's a big push for left parties then it informs voter needs and why a party can be bleeding votes. Reform voters seem to get this. It's why Labour chase kipper voters.

hep5g.bsky.social•4 days ago

I believe other parties were available. Labour were quite clearly awful at the last election and if you voted for them you did actually agree with what they were doing.

offroadgoat.bsky.social•4 days ago

Turns out Labour are the 'nastier party'. I'm not looking forward to the next 4.5 years under them, with me being on PIP and also a full time carer for my partner. They can get in the bin with their 'works sets you free' vibes.

gerray.bsky.social•4 days ago

I’m not looking forward to it either but I don’t know why anyone should be losing sleep for voting for them. What was the alternative?

offroadgoat.bsky.social•4 days ago

Labour themselves killed the alternative.

gerray.bsky.social•4 days ago

What’s your point? The OP is telling people they’re to blame and should be losing sleep over making a binary decision in a two party system.

wizardcubes.bsky.social•4 days ago

they are and they should

wizardcubes.bsky.social•4 days ago

i'm not a political scientist but the alternative to "voting for labour" might bave been "not voting for labour" maybe

gerray.bsky.social•4 days ago

In FPTP it’s a coin toss Jamie. You can choose to go off playing with marbles instead but it’s still going to land on heads or tails.

wizardcubes.bsky.social•4 days ago

you say this as if it's wisdom but it's not

in any event, you voted for the continued murder of the poor and disabled and i didn't so my conscience is clear

frightfulhobgoblin.bsky.social•4 days ago

In an environment where three parties (Labour, Conservative, Reform) are all polling at more or less a quarter of the vote each, this is simply a lie.

frightfulhobgoblin.bsky.social•4 days ago

The electorate was split very nearly three ways this last election, and only produced a large majority for Labour by fluke. The argument that FPTP produces only two strong parties capable of government is less true now than it ever has been.

harlequinr.bsky.social•4 days ago

There were the Greens, plus the NIP (and some of the other regional parties, most likely) had better policy positions, or local independents if you liked what they had to say.

srtlw.bsky.social•4 days ago

You don't have to vote for anyone

jacqueblue.bsky.social•4 days ago

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/life-in-nazi-occupied-europe/oppression/disabled/

somewherecymru.bsky.social•2 days ago

roadwarrior29.bsky.social•4 days ago

Why go after the rich and powerful when,instead, you can target the elderly, the sick, the disabled, the disenfranchised...the Red Tory way.

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