There’s going to be a point when having a vacation in China and purchasing a computer as a souvenir, will be cheaper than buying said computer here in the US.
Just been speaking with a family member who works in China. He tells me everything there costs just 20% of what it does outside China, including all the tech. So, yes to your point - it's already the case, actually.
My job which had to let us go bc of Elon’s DOGE and now rehiring us, sold us our computers. Well now, they aren’t able to purchase new ones for the rehires so they’re buying our computers back from us! I know. Sad.
In other words we are in a merry go round of crazy with this mad nut-job in chief.
And his North Korean style suck-up cabinet of clowns aren't helping.
🚬😎
You never know how good you had it, until it goes away. Yes. Hopefully we can change it for our children, and the planet.
It calls on all of us to be heroes in our own way.
🚬😎
"In a kleptocracy, corrupt politicians [or their buddies] enrich themselves secretly outside the rule of law, through insider trading, kickbacks, bribes, and special favors from lobbyists and corporations, or they simply direct state funds to themselves and their associates." (Wikipedia)
The New Reality by CEO-Dictators:
1. Install a CEO Dictator
2. Purge the Bureaucracy
3. Build a Loyalist Army
4. Dismantle Democratic Institutions
5. Seize Media and Information Control to Maintain Power https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-…
You fail to consider the prime difference between normal dictators and Trump. There are more guns in America than any other dictatorship. Those guns will be used against the MAGA goons before they complete that list.
Do they choose to serve a corrupt master, as with Hitler?
Nuremberg Principle IV: A person who refuses an unlawful order faces the possibility of legal punishment at the national level. But a person who accepts an unlawful order faces the possibility of legal punishment at the international level.
Yarvin knows it cannot be done because once the dumbass techbros started losing money, he realized he was also going to lose his meal ticket. So ..he's gotta bullshit his way out of his authoritarian fantasy. The best way is to just say "they suck at this!" He table flips and leaves the game room.
It's cool because we do manufacture electronic devices here, they just tend to be very specialized high cost devices. Now the already expensive devices are going to become so expensive, there's going to be motivation to offshore that manufacturing, possibly to the EU.
Well I’m thinking that with all the cuts in funding, especially in science, those specialized American computers will not be needed for at least four years.
There is no logic here with the clowns. It's all about quid pro quo. What will you give me if I spare you. What can we negotiate that is favorable to me. And make no mistake. We build zero computers and cell phones here, zero. We may modify or ruggedize a computer from Taiwan but we build zero.
What's incredible is that no one is questioning Apple's famous inbuilt obsolescence that makes the iPhone market so huge to begin with. If a phone lasted 10+ years, you'd only need a quarter of them.
I bet to get this exemption for the China tariffs, it has cost him much more than $1M. He must have had to make a nice under the table deposit into trumps’s crypto accounts
This is a massive manipulation of the stock market because he wants a lot of attention and affection, (and money), from people who will come to him begging for help.
So totally destroy the reputation of the US internationally, cut the US out of international trade, tank the US dollar and make the US pariahs. All to play pump and dump with his friends. Trump has no strategy, only tactics. And shitty tactics at that.
I bet if there was a way of finding out how much Trump and his regime members are making on stock manipulations and everything else, they're milking, it would shock even the most cynical of us.
Let me make this perfectly clear. Everything is being aligned for the benefit of a few very rich men. Everyone else is set up for a huge loss. And this was all spelled out in one document. Project 2025.
Can't
STRESS
THIS
enough to
EVERYONE
Contact your Reps and Senate
202-224-3121
No matter your age
Remind them that
WE will not be
ACCEPTING
CONTACTING
X
STARLINK
DAMNED
THING
ASSOCIATED
WITH ELON
FOR
ANY
of
OUR
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
Get a STRAITJACKET on donny
DEFUND
DEPORT ELON
NOW
He should just say everything made under the Trump brand is exempt. Just get it over with already. Then more nose picking and hand wringing by the Dems.
The Dems are pretty powerless right now. Elections matter. #Americans voted for #Republicans. They’re the ones in power. Don’t like what’s happening?…talk to them. End their careers.
Down ballot Americans voted for Dems. Special elections, Americans are voting for Dems. It was a minority of eligible voters who voted for DT. The only guaranteed vote for him was maga the rest were likely manipulated via EM. Time to recognize they’re the minority and we can shut them out.
Agreed. Don’t forget the gerrymandering and Dem votes illegally purged from red states. It’s still happening in the North Carolina supreme court justice election that was clearly won by the Democratic candidate.
I agree that we can’t expect anyone to rescue us. That said, couching everything as water under the bridge, gives dem leaders an out for resting on laurels (those who did) they are a key player in battling fascism while we also do what we should.
It doesn’t make sense because Dear Leader decides based on bribes, who he talked to last , and his infamous gut “I don’t need facts to make a decision”
Trump is mentally ill. Nothing he does or has ever done has made one ounce of sense bc he suffers with Psychopathology. He needs help. He has infected his base, the GoP, SCOTUS, and the DoJ. Someone needs to invoke A25 or impeachment.
It makes perfect sense! Trumps Plan to MAKE AMERICAN BILLIONAIRES EVEN RICHER! You have to read the small print in the slogan "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"!
SORRY but SARCASM is the only way I am able to deal with THIS BULLSHIT! BLATANT RACISM, SEXISM, and CORRUPTION. A total attack on decency!
It's called "pay to play." Your support Trump and donate $millions to his campaign or just put crypto into his "wallet" (know one will ever know) then your products are not subject to tariffs. It is an extortion scheme and it's working.
No, Tim is a real business man, down to the quarter penny. He could not care less, right, left, middle, he is concerned with Apple. And he knows what and where to pay and getting the results. He is proto corporate. The OG. You can't mess with Apple and Trump knows that.
The purpose of the presidency* for Yamtits is a means to:
1. Stay out of prison
2. Extort anyone he can target for his ongoing theft
3. Keep Putin happy enough that windows don’t become life threatening
Stupid. Psychopathic. Stupid. Greedy. Stupid. Incompetent. Stupid. Dishonest. Stupid. Immoral. Stupid. Unethical. Stupid. Criminal. Stupid, Destructive. Stupid. 21% of adults in the US are illiterate (2024). 54% have a literacy below a 6th-grade level. Guess who's running the place? Stupid.
Fine except for the analogy to stick, don’t you have to pay the extra cash to the fat slob lurking over in the corner who is just going to throw it away in a scam crypto scheme?
There is no plan. There is no strategy. There is no wizard behind the curtain. This is entirely reactionary to proactive thoughtless random spaghetti throwing.
It's because HE didn't negotiate it. And his name isn't on the agreement. Just think, if someone had just handed him the agreement and a black sharpie, we'd have avoided all this mess.
How are they fighting the 99% right now, after realizing folks left because they say themselves, they are WIDELY SEEN as Abandoning Labor. Why is that SO?
And what is their Plan in their own Words to get AWAY from SMALL DOLLAR DONORS?
With NAFTA, you can see it most clearly. Detroit and Flint are the result of joining Republicans in "Free Trade" to allow Manufacturers to leave, avoid Taxes, abuse labor overseas, crush Unions by simply LEAVING America. Flint was poisoned because the JOBS went away. Detroit, same.
I was all for Obama. I watched him betray Everything I voted for in him. I am a Bernie/AOC Supporter, and I understand what happens after 40 Years of this.
America is the third largest manufacturer in the world. It’s here. Investment quadrupled under Biden. Trump is about to kill manufacturing in the US for ever. #ETTD
Yep. And it’s all supposed to be part of the 🍊🤡’s master strategy. That razor sharp, stable genius. That master of the ‘art of the steal’.
No shooting from the hip here, no ‘sir’. All planned.
There's no concept of nation to people with billions of dollars. They go where they want. They do what they want. And the 'great unwashed masses' can just either play ball or die.
The only thing going to be made here is trickle down scatological matter in the ASS Backwards Grand High PooPoo Bah. And it all fulfills an industrial grade XXX Depends in bulk order.
While the world thinks this is all chumps doing, he is simply taking advice directly from the Kremlin until they start falling out of third story windows
I in no way wish to defend self-interested rich guys, but I think there's more going on here. Tim Cook said manufacturing can't simply be transferred to the U.S. bcs expertise is required and Americans don't have it. I understand that he also wants cheap labor, but I think what he
Consequently, he needed to have the tariffs on making computers in China lifted bcs he can't make them here. I think Trump agreed to do that (bcs he was paid), but he left the 145% tariff on the components, knowing that tariff is BS, bcs he wants it to
appear that he's being tough on China. He doesn't care if nobody ever pays those tariffs, as long people think he's doing something bcs he's charging China 145% on electronic components. It's all smoke & mirrors with him.
I'm only explaining what I think happened, not saying it's okay.
I was genuinely curious and wanted to refresh my memory of that time...so I simply typed in the question...
While I don't normally cite Wikipedia, I found this interesting....
Few words. TARIFFS & Manufacturing are a combination of many basic But complex FACTORS! Trump has the nitwit intelligence of a nut chasing squirrel when it comes to ALL THESE COMPLEX FACTORS. His intelligence on ANY NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES ARE SIMILARLY VERY MINIMAL!
America elected an idiot, felon, conman to run the country and he hired a bunch of inept, unqualified, cronies to help him make decisions. There was no way this was going to turn out good.
My question, too, is...if Dog Turd wants to bring manufacturing back to the US...what about alcohol production? Tequila? Champagne? Prosecco? Irish Whiskey? Scotch? Canadian Whiskey? A lot of this shit is region specific.
Protest away, please, but I won’t judge a Tesla owner for buying theirs before the shit show we are now experiencing (except cyber trucks-fuck those people) I feel the same toward Apple users (myself being one). I’m not about to buy $3k+ of new shit. My next phone/computer will not be Apple.
Comments
Seeing as you now own the computer, I hope you quoted them an inflated price to buy it from you.
And his North Korean style suck-up cabinet of clowns aren't helping.
🚬😎
It calls on all of us to be heroes in our own way.
🚬😎
Also, we're all trying to find the guy that did this
1. Install a CEO Dictator
2. Purge the Bureaucracy
3. Build a Loyalist Army
4. Dismantle Democratic Institutions
5. Seize Media and Information Control to Maintain Power
https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-…
Nuremberg Principle IV: A person who refuses an unlawful order faces the possibility of legal punishment at the national level. But a person who accepts an unlawful order faces the possibility of legal punishment at the international level.
I like ideas.
burp.
Same for appliances and electronics.
Americans don't realize how many "Made in China" products they have/consume.
Just about everything nowadays is partly or wholly imported.
If you cuddle Trump's balls and give him a shit ton of money, then he probably won't fuck you in the ass?
Oh, I get it...prison rules.
Maybe stick to one boycott of a tremendous product at a time.
#PumpNDump
💙🇺🇸✌🏻
#ETTD
It’s not America First. It never was.
trump is an extortionist, a mobster
he sells privileges and then takes them back and sells them again
https://bsky.app/profile/joelcawley.bsky.social/post/3lmmtnyyzs225
🤦🏻♀️
STRESS
THIS
enough to
EVERYONE
Contact your Reps and Senate
202-224-3121
No matter your age
Remind them that
WE will not be
ACCEPTING
CONTACTING
X
STARLINK
DAMNED
THING
ASSOCIATED
WITH ELON
FOR
ANY
of
OUR
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
Get a STRAITJACKET on donny
DEFUND
DEPORT ELON
NOW
If you support your families by spending your paycheck in the Apple Store or at Best Buy-you won't be paying more.
But, if you support your families by spending your paycheck at Dollar General or Family Dollar-you're ALL going to pay a Lot More-Right Now!
Apple phones had a great warrant years ago. No longer. The one I have will be replaced with a non-Apple item next time.
No problem. Trump doesn’t do math.
The 30% who didn't turn up are traitors.
https://youtu.be/Dp_hOP5B5dI?si=1nMswoblmKRsPkN3
SORRY but SARCASM is the only way I am able to deal with THIS BULLSHIT! BLATANT RACISM, SEXISM, and CORRUPTION. A total attack on decency!
With some stock manipulation on the side.
1. Stay out of prison
2. Extort anyone he can target for his ongoing theft
3. Keep Putin happy enough that windows don’t become life threatening
I live in place where an American stopped me in the street and asked if I could tell him where the McGregors lived.
Another was amazed that houses with like wifi and the internet.
The math ain’t mathing.
Trump is a Russian asset
Musk is a Chinese asset
Russia and China will be favored in all dealings at the expense of who were our allies.
That's it, that's the sense.
it's waaaay to hard to think. so let them think for us!
We count those!
And they welcome further trade negotiations.
I think we lost that credibility when we abandoned the EU and Ukraine, not to mention thrusting Canada, Mexico and Greenland.
Remember the nuclear treaty with Iran? Same story.
This was just tearing up a decent treaty to slap his name on a new one — all ego.
Felon47 still isn’t over Obamacare and would’ve branded “tRump-care” if only “Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.” Feb2017
https://bsky.app/profile/idiotsrule.bsky.social/post/3lmoqahyak22f
Agreed!
I think it's relevant to realize that they took over the party, as in couped it, as Republicans, who are still in control of it right now.
Why don't they stand up? Their Donors want what Trump does. SS and Medicare? Private.
Some two-bit dictators from podunk "shithole" countries?
https://bsky.app/profile/briantylercohen.bsky.social/post/3lmi6ytlg5k2c
Those Policies for the Donors, Oligarchy, drove our BASE voters away until the Rust Belt turned Red.
Not knowing 40 years of THAT would lead to THIS is OUR FAULT. Voters are Depeche on Corporate News.
That was a Choice that our Leadership has made because they SAID they are going to Serve the Golden Goose FIRST, and then Trickle that down.
https://www.c-span.org/program/washington-journal/future-of-the-democratic-party/333721
I would LOVE to know your thoughts, once you have.
And what is their Plan in their own Words to get AWAY from SMALL DOLLAR DONORS?
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000195-5511-d4a2-afbf-dd7121940000
Ross Perot?
That's the Marketing.
What are the Side-Effects for the 99% in America?
Can you keep digging into this with me?
I was all for Obama. I watched him betray Everything I voted for in him. I am a Bernie/AOC Supporter, and I understand what happens after 40 Years of this.
Extortion is the real motive.
Whatever concessions Trump achieves for the American people will pale beside the deals that he wrangles for himself.
You wouldn’t understand
🤣😂
Talks out its ass……
Makes asinine statements
Is really just an Ass!!!
Honest taxpaying Americans are fucked.
I should have been more clear with what I meant, but most of the time, since it’s social media, you can only go so deep initially.
Manufacturing has been on a steady decline
What I meant by saying that manufacturing isn’t coming back, I mean manufacturing jobs. Scroll lower in your link and the trend line tells the story.
No shooting from the hip here, no ‘sir’. All planned.
Wake Up, America!!!
Consequently, he needed to have the tariffs on making computers in China lifted bcs he can't make them here. I think Trump agreed to do that (bcs he was paid), but he left the 145% tariff on the components, knowing that tariff is BS, bcs he wants it to
I'm only explaining what I think happened, not saying it's okay.
While I don't normally cite Wikipedia, I found this interesting....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Russian_Federation#:~:text=In%20the%201990s%2C%20former%20Soviet,millions%20of%20dollars%20for%20protection.