I was not in the reactionary VC group chat, though it sounds like the Democrats who were (like Mark Cuban) were doing the lord's work by attempting to do persuasion. - ThreadSky

mattyglesias.bsky.social • 37 days ago

I was not in the reactionary VC group chat, though it sounds like the Democrats who were (like Mark Cuban) were doing the lord's work by attempting to do persuasion.

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I don't think he was in the reactionary VC group chat. Maybe we should just ask him? @mattyglesias.bsky.social, were you in the reactionary VC group chat???

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no-pets-allowed.bsky.social•36 days ago

Is there some way that a mere nobody can take part in that reactionary VC group chat? Sounds like something I would enjoy as a centrist Democrat.

johnbrownwasright.bsky.social•37 days ago

The only thing you persuaded people to do is invent a time machine to go back and stuff you in a locker in 8th grade

amrambenkehat.bsky.social•37 days ago

The funny thing is, whatever you think of Yglesias, you are the one who looks like the bully right here.

johnbrownwasright.bsky.social•37 days ago

I think that is the whole point of the comment

amrambenkehat.bsky.social•37 days ago

Did I misunderstand your 'hall monitor' comment?

johnbrownwasright.bsky.social•37 days ago

danancona.bsky.social•37 days ago

mstrofbass.bsky.social•37 days ago

Man you are gullible

danancona.bsky.social•37 days ago

I defintely wasn’t getting sarcastic, ya got me

boldmovebydan.bsky.social•37 days ago

The 4th one is clearly sarcastic. Maybe they are all sarcastic?

danancona.bsky.social•37 days ago

They’re obviously sarcastic, I’m obviously also being sarcastic, there’s clearly nothing to see here

guyforget.bengreenfield.com•37 days ago

“Clever and invigorating jokes,” claims Mark Halperin in the piece 🤔

danancona.bsky.social•37 days ago

Finally I come across a suitable new temporary name

cortessis-peter.bsky.social•37 days ago

“I was not in the reactionary group chat but the Democrats who were should be praised” is not a great retort, I’m gonna be honest.

Trying to argue privately with the supremely ignorant usually results in them dragging you down to their level and then beating you with experience.

brianrtw.bsky.social•37 days ago

If your ideas are sound and you’re a persuasive person you should be eager to persuade people who disagree. Just talking amongst people who already agree with you gets you nowhere.

cortessis-peter.bsky.social•37 days ago

Committed reactionary ideologues are not known to change their minds from reasoned arguments. The way you deal with them is you drag their repugnant views into public, mock, shame, and otherwise make their ideology impossible to espouse or advocate for.

adistantdream.bsky.social•37 days ago

Trump drags his own repugnant views into public, people mock and shame them, and it doesn't work.

Shaming fundamentally doesn't work at a national electoral level because the people you shame still get to vote.

cortessis-peter.bsky.social•37 days ago

I can assure you, publicly shaming the members of my family who have espoused racist or homophobic beliefs has gotten them to shut the fuck up from being racist or homophobic. Matty here is hardly a member of the “name and shame” theory of political action.

adistantdream.bsky.social•37 days ago

They shut the fuck up around you - but what do they do when you're not around? How do they vote?

I have family on the other side of the aisle and I can make them not talk to me about it but I have no ability to change their voting.

cortessis-peter.bsky.social•37 days ago

I mean, shit, Noah Smith went from fairly middle of the road liberal to “haha, homeless citizens getting deported to El Salvador would be funny / an improvement” from being immersed in such a radioactive environment, from what I can tell.

adistantdream.bsky.social•37 days ago

That's because Noah Smith was always a very stupid person who is easily persuaded by bad arguments that flatter his priors. He wasn't any smarter before.

cortessis-peter.bsky.social•37 days ago

I mean, I hate to be cynical about human nature but that just sounds like the average person in general, tbqh. Why dip your head into the ideological equivalent of toxic sewage unless you’re so up your own asshole as to think you can save people who don’t want to be saved?

adistantdream.bsky.social•37 days ago

I'm an ideologue and therefore have full faith in my ability to withstand stupid arguments. I used to argue people out of bad positions on 4chan one grueling cite at a time.

It is of course a waste of time, but so is everything we do online.

mmathog.bsky.social•37 days ago

That’s your excuse but once again you don’t believe Andressen’s reasons when he says why he switched to Trump and you don’t actually believe in persuasion among those guys.

More bad faith.

mattyglesias.bsky.social•37 days ago

I did get some ideas about license plate enforcement from a small group chat of local dads concerned about traffic safety.

johnbrownwasright.bsky.social•37 days ago

You are such a hall monitor.

acreed.bsky.social•37 days ago

Camera enforcement of traffic safety laws and license plates to catch criminals is good, actually. I personally like not getting run over by a lifted pickup doing 50 in a 25 zone, tyvm.

johnbrownwasright.bsky.social•37 days ago

"AKSHUALLY..."
No one died and made soft nepo baby Matt the Pope.

acreed.bsky.social•37 days ago

Well about 8000 people are killed a year from being hit by a vehicle, with another 140K ER visits. So yeah, about that many die to indicate that tougher enforcement of traffic laws a good idea.

johnbrownwasright.bsky.social•37 days ago

Maybe is police did their fucking jobs instead of harrasing minorities this number would go down. That is not what Matt is doing. He is being a nuisance and broadcasting peoples license plates on the internet. He has no training or understanding of anything. He should shut up.

paulheckman.bsky.social•37 days ago

the real heroes

tempolila.bsky.social•36 days ago

License plate enforcement sounds like a no-brainer.

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